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We've got to fix our Revenue
« on: February 07, 2016, 11:33:06 PM »
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-season-2016-debt-down-but-losses-mount-for-afl-clubs-20160206-gmnb1h.html

We are 6th of the Melbourne clubs with Melbourne on our tail.
A huge watch out for the club.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 11:45:26 PM »
When did we lose almost $4m in 2014?  :huh.

It also puts out those total P/L figures in the article by $8m.

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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 11:47:34 PM »
It's an issue because it restricts our ability to invest in the football team and also impacts on our ability to invest in developing new revenue streams.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2016, 12:44:49 AM »
It's an issue because it restricts our ability to invest in the football team and also impacts on our ability to invest in developing new revenue streams.
Gaming venues play a big difference. We're up to $10m behind some other Vic clubs.

Hawthorn
AFL distribution/prizes    $10.4m
Memberships                 $11.7m
Match day                     $  4.5m
Marketing                      $15.7m
Merchandise                  $  4.7m
Gaming, bar, bistro        $18.4m
Accommodation income $  2.2m
Donations/fundraising     $  0.9m
Rental from invest prop. $  0.4m
Grant                             $  2.0m
Other                             $  0.3m
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Total                              $71.3

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Hawthorn/PDFs/2015_HFC%20Annual%20Report%202015.pdf

Collingwood
AFL distribution             $  8.5m
Commercial activities    $17.4m
Functions & gaming      $17.1m
Membership/Matchday  $22.4m
Other                           $  0.7m
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Total                            $66m

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Collingwood/Club%20Promos/2013%20-%20Club%20Promos/ColFC_FinancialReport15_SR.pdf

Carlton:
AFL income                   $  9.9m
Sponsors/Hospitality     $12.1m
Membership/Res. seat.  $  8.7m
Member venue revenue $18.1m
Gate receipts                 $ 2.7m
Merchandise                  $ 1.0m
Other footy op. income $ 1.3m
Interest & fundraising     $ 0.3m
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Total                             $54m

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Carlton/Documents/CFCFINANCIALREPORT2015.pdf

Essendon
AFL distribution             $ 9.1m
Marketing                     $15.1m
Membership                 $10.8m
Merchandise                 $ 2.6m
Match receipts              $ 0.9m
Fitness centre (WH)     $ 4.1m
Venues (food & drink)  $ 5.0m
Venues (other)            $ 8.5m
Grants                         $ 2.0m
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Total                           $58m

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Essendon/Club%20HQ/Annual%20Report%202015%20-%20Print.pdf

Geelong
AFL dividends/prizes      $ 8.8m
Gaming, food, drinks     $10.9m
Membership/seats/gate $13.3m
Merchandise                  $  1.7m
Sponsors/adverts/fund. $13.8m
Grants & other              $  1.2m
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Total                             $49.7m

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/GeelongCats/Images/2015%20GFC%20Consolidated%20Financial%20Statements%20%2831-Oct-15%29.pdf


Ours:

Football                        $14.2m
Sponsors/Marketing      $24.5m
Social & gaming            $  7.1m
Interest                        $  0.1m
JDF                              $  0.8m
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Total                            $46.7m

http://lon-cdn220-is-3.se.bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afltigers0/concisefinancials2015.pdf
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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2016, 05:46:08 AM »
We may be 6th for revenue but at least we are =1st for debt.

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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2016, 06:54:14 AM »
When did we lose almost $4m in 2014?  :huh.



We didn't

Clear typo  ;D

2014 Net Profit was $1.329
2013 = $3.317

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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2016, 12:52:26 PM »
When did we lose almost $4m in 2014?  :huh.



We didn't

Clear typo  ;D

2014 Net Profit was $1.329
2013 = $3.317
A typo by them that wasn't even in the same galaxy :huh3 ;D.

WP, does our full annual report have separate figures for membership, gate receipt and merchandise revenues? We could then make a direct comparison with other clubs in those areas.
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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2016, 01:13:01 PM »

WP, does our full annual report have separate figures for membership, gate receipt and merchandise revenues? We could then make a direct comparison with other clubs in those areas.

Unfortunately, no.

Legally they don't have to so they dont, they present the reports to minimum reporting standard

I think they should because it would be interesting to compare but as I said  they dont have to so they don't

And just on our revenues, they need to pull their collective digit out and find a new naming rights sponsor for Punt Road. Not having one would leave a significant drop in revenues if they can't / don't
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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2016, 03:00:31 PM »

WP, does our full annual report have separate figures for membership, gate receipt and merchandise revenues? We could then make a direct comparison with other clubs in those areas.

Unfortunately, no.

Legally they don't have to so they dont, they present the reports to minimum reporting standard

I think they should because it would be interesting to compare but as I said  they dont have to so they don't
Any guess what category they would come under? Say the AFL distribution and gate receipts would be included in the "Football" revenue while membership and merchandise under sponsorship/marketing?

And just on our revenues, they need to pull their collective digit out and find a new naming rights sponsor for Punt Road. Not having one would leave a significant drop in revenues if they can't / don't
You would hope they'll have one before the two open training sessions that are acting as family days this year.

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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2016, 06:59:27 PM »
And just on our revenues, they need to pull their collective digit out and find a new naming rights sponsor for Punt Road. Not having one would leave a significant drop in revenues if they can't / don't
You would hope they'll have one before the two open training sessions that are acting as family days this year.
According to RFCO:

Thanks for the message. There hasn't been any movement on the naming rights partner for Punt Road, but those in charge are working hard on getting something across the line. When we are successful, we'll certainly let everyone know.

Cheers.

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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2016, 07:04:22 PM »
And just on our revenues, they need to pull their collective digit out and find a new naming rights sponsor for Punt Road. Not having one would leave a significant drop in revenues if they can't / don't
You would hope they'll have one before the two open training sessions that are acting as family days this year.
According to RFCO:

Thanks for the message. There hasn't been any movement on the naming rights partner for Punt Road, but those in charge are working hard on getting something across the line. When we are successful, we'll certainly let everyone know.

Cheers.


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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2016, 09:23:09 PM »
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I've worked out what the Age did wrong. They've given the Dogs our 2014 profit figure, the Dogs figure to the Saints, and the Saints $3.9m loss to us.

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Re: We've got to fix our Revenue
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2016, 06:51:51 AM »
A break up of Revenues from 2015

Revenue from continuing activities
Football 14,265,568

Sponsorship and marketing 24,461,538

Gaming and social 7,069,505

Interest received 106,699

Jack Dyer Foundation contributions 802,710

Total revenue from operating activities 46,706,020

I do know the FTF contributions are included in Sponsorship & Marketing


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