Author Topic: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump  (Read 577 times)

Offline one-eyed

  • Administrator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 98410
    • One-Eyed Richmond
Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« on: March 11, 2017, 04:29:25 PM »
Thoughts?

----------------------------------------------

RICHMOND star Jack Riewoldt was reported for rough conduct in the second quarter of the Tigers' JLT Community Series clash against Collingwood in Moe.

Riewoldt was late to arrive in a marking contest and forcefully bumped Magpies defender Jackson Ramsay as he marked the ball.

The contact was forceful and probably uncalled for, but it appears the spearhead may escape without further punishment from the Match Review Panel based on the replays available.

Ramsay's Magpies teammates Jeremy Howe and Josh Smith were unhappy with Riewoldt's actions, but the scuffle quickly dissipated as a 50m penalty was paid for the late contact.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-11/watch-riewoldt-reported-for-seemingly-innocuous-bump


Offline The Machine

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 3697
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2017, 04:30:07 PM »
Pathetic report :thumbsdown

Offline YellowandBlackBlood

  • Long suffering….
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 10688
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2017, 04:35:36 PM »
Lol. Will be thrown out immediately. Ridiculous report.
OER. Calling it as it is since 2004.

Offline Yeahright

  • Moderator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 9394
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2017, 05:37:55 PM »
Fair enough report but it'll get thrown out. Ump doesn't have the benefit of replay

Offline YellowandBlackBlood

  • Long suffering….
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 10688
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2017, 05:42:02 PM »
Fair enough report but it'll get thrown out. Ump doesn't have the benefit of replay
?
If he didn't see the incident properly, he should'n't have reported him. The video ump can always report him later. He just reported him because the Collingwood player fell in a heap. Jack just braced himself for contact which wasn't even high and momentum made him collide. Grundy throws a very late forearm jolt at Soldo which lifts him off the ground and is not reported. Go figure.
OER. Calling it as it is since 2004.

Offline Yeahright

  • Moderator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 9394
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2017, 05:54:51 PM »
I have no issue with umps reporting players if they believe the contact was high as the report is ultimately insignificant as it only matters what happens at the tribunal. Sure it brings attention to him but if he's got nothing to worry about who the stuff cares? I disagree, Jack chose to bump him he didn't just brace himself, it was obvious at the ground.

 :lol :lol :lol Don't get be started on Soldo's acting. If it wasn't acting then he has to be the weakest player in the AFL, not even Edwards would get ragdolled like that. The obvious difference between the two incidents was the ump thought Jack was high and Grundy wasn't hence one being reported and not the other

Offline YellowandBlackBlood

  • Long suffering….
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 10688
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2017, 06:05:17 PM »
I have no issue with umps reporting players if they believe the contact was high as the report is ultimately insignificant as it only matters what happens at the tribunal. Sure it brings attention to him but if he's got nothing to worry about who the stuff cares? I disagree, Jack chose to bump him he didn't just brace himself, it was obvious at the ground.

 :lol :lol :lol Don't get be started on Soldo's acting. If it wasn't acting then he has to be the weakest player in the AFL, not even Edwards would get ragdolled like that. The obvious difference between the two incidents was the ump thought Jack was high and Grundy wasn't hence one being reported and not the other
I didn't realise you were there......
OER. Calling it as it is since 2004.

Offline WilliamPowell

  • Administrator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 40365
  • Better to ignore a fool than encourage one
    • One Eyed Richmond
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2017, 09:22:18 PM »
Laughable

Was at the game, thought it was worth 50 but a report nope
"Oh yes I am a dreamer, I still see us flying high!"

from the song "Don't Walk Away" by Pat Benatar 1988 (Wide Awake In Dreamland)

Offline one-eyed

  • Administrator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 98410
    • One-Eyed Richmond
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2017, 09:33:03 PM »
Riewoldt was also reported for engaging in rough conduct for a late hit on Collingwood's Jackson Ramsay in the second quarter.

Hardwick scoffed when asked about the match-day report.

"I think he'll be OK. Anyway, moving on," Hardwick said.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-11/sore-jack-riewoldt-a-certain-starter-for-round-one

Offline one-eyed

  • Administrator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 98410
    • One-Eyed Richmond
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2017, 07:24:15 PM »
ANALYSIS: Time to throw out match-day reports?

Nathan Schmook 
afl.com.au
March 12, 2017


THE ANNUAL debate on match-day reports, and what role they can play in the highly scrutinised Match Review Panel era, has come early in 2017.

It has arrived on the back of Jack Riewoldt's weekend report for rough conduct, which has emboldened those who argue for the dated practice of the match-day report to be thrown out.   

Coaches have long taken issue with the reporting of their players for incidents that look dubious to the naked eye but are quickly excused when shown on replay.

As Geelong coach Chris Scott said last year: "You would hate to think [a report] would take a player's mind off a game for no reason".

Riewoldt was reported in a JLT Community Series match, but the stakes of a match-day report are still high, with all punishments served in the premiership season.

The star forward was reported for rough conduct late in the second quarter when he collided with Collingwood's Jackson Ramsay, who courageously ran with the flight of the ball and attempted to mark in front of Riewoldt.

Rather than continuing on his line and crunching Ramsay, Riewoldt pulled up before giving his opponent a forceful shove and forcing the mark to spill, giving away a 50m penalty.

In real time it looked bad and Collingwood players were quick to remonstrate, suggesting they also thought there was something untoward in the collision.

But before Riewoldt's number had even been taken by umpire Robert Findlay, replays were shown on the broadcast instantly clearing the 28-year-old.

When asked about the report post-game, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick scoffed and laughed, saying, "I think he'll be OK. Anyway, moving on".

Match-day commentators and champion players Gerard Healy and Brad Johnson also poured cold water on the incident, with Healy saying it could be withdrawn and Johnson declaring, "There's nothing at all there".   

So how many players find themselves in Riewoldt's shoes, potentially stewing on a match-day report before later being cleared when the forensic MRP process has been completed on Monday afternoon?

According to the MRP's weekly in-season statements, there were 16 match-day reports thrown out last season.

The Panel has a transparent system when it comes to explaining how it viewed match-day reports, giving a breakdown on how it came to dismiss each charge.

Of the 16 last season, 11 cases did not stand up to scrutiny because there was insufficient force or insufficient high contact.

The remaining five were dismissed because the reported player was contesting the ball legitimately.

The League has argued in the past that its umpires find match-day reports useful as a way to manage a match, taking the heat out of scuffle after a dubious incident has occurred.

"Match-day reports are done less and less these days but I think it still holds some sort of value for us … particularly in calming things down," former AFL football operations manager Mark Evans said last year.

If this is the only remaining purpose of the match-day report, perhaps it is time to investigate other ways to get play moving and deter scuffles from escalating.

In 2017 the MRP will have the ability to recommend sanctions to clubs for large melees or multiple breaches in a single season.

If eliminating scuffles and melees is the AFL's aim, then penalising scuffles and melees should be the solution. Match-day reports have had their time and no longer seem appropriate.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-12/analysis-time-to-throw-out-matchday-reports

Offline Owl

  • Magnificent Bastard
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 7012
  • Bring me TWO chickens
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2017, 08:58:14 PM »
"If eliminating scuffles and melees is the AFL's aim, then penalising scuffles and melees should be the solution. Match-day reports have had their time and no longer seem appropriate."
Exactly.  Poncing around and pretending to have a fight is bs anyway, either snot each other or get on with the game.
Lots of people name their swords......

Offline Yeahright

  • Moderator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 9394
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2017, 10:12:54 PM »
ANALYSIS: Time to throw out match-day reports?

THE ANNUAL debate on match-day reports, and what role they can play in the highly scrutinised Match Review Panel era, has come early in 2017.


Ah, good to see some see the real issue

Offline one-eyed

  • Administrator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 98410
    • One-Eyed Richmond
Re: Jack Riewoldt reported for bump
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2017, 03:43:25 AM »
The match day report against Richmond’s Jack Riewoldt for rough conduct against Collingwood’s Jackson Ramsay was assessed. The panel said Ramsay was running back to take a mark with Riewoldt coming towards the contest. Riewoldt slowed down when he realised he could not take the mark and contact was made to the Collingwood player’s chest.

After speaking to the umpire who laid the report, it was the view of the panel the contact was not unreasonable in the circumstances and no further action was taken.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-13/match-review-panel-full-statement-jlt-community-series-week-four