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Fan less games
« on: March 04, 2020, 11:08:51 PM »
How peeed would you be. You paid for 11 homes games as a member and due to the virus there's no congregations >5000 people allowed. Crowds locked out.
So what's to do?
Demand a refund?
Go berserk on twitter?
Cop it as just bad luck and be thankful they still played the games?
Sneak out to AFL headquarters and slash the CEOs tyres?
Jump up and down waving your fist shouting obscenities? At least this sounds fun for a bit

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Re: Fan less games
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2020, 02:01:07 PM »
Norf fans won't notice the difference  :snidegrin.

Seriously though, it's happening in Italian soccer and the NBA is planning for such a scenario. LeBron has apparently said he won't play if there's no fans. Six Nations Rugby has cancelled matches involving Italy.

I'm not sure what happens regarding any money back. I haven't read the fine print but you don't get any money back on a normal 11-game home access membership if the game is soldout and you can't get in without a reserve seat. It would be a huge hit to a club's bottom line if they had to reimburse members.
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Re: Fan less games
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2020, 03:15:07 AM »
Why coronavirus could force the AFL to play games without fans

By Damian Barrett
afl.com.au
11 March 2020


THE AFL is preparing to play next week's round one matches with crowds in attendance but concedes games in empty stadiums are a strong possibility due to the worldwide coronavirus outbreak.

AFL chief executive officer Gillon McLachlan said on Tuesday that his administration would heed any directive issued by federal and state governments, and medical authorities.

McLachlan and the AFL commission briefed all club captains and CEOs at the game's Docklands headquarters on Tuesday.

"Our clubs, players and fans know that if a response is required, then we will be well planned and ready, and we will rely on the advice of the relevant experts," McLachlan said.

"If mass gatherings are suspended, then we will play games in stadiums with no crowds."

A Fremantle player was on Tuesday cleared of coronavirus infection, after developing flu-like symptoms at the weekend.

McLachlan refused to engage in hypothetical commentary at a media conference on Tuesday, but it is known that the League has thrashed out numerous contingency plans to minimise the effect of the sweeping changes which will be required due to coronavirus.

All sports in Italy have been called off indefinitely, and the Indian Wells tennis tournament, regarded as the "fifth" major, was this week cancelled by authorities.

Victorian premier Daniel Andrews on Tuesday said it was when and not if the coronavirus outbreak reached pandemic stage, which would see directives given to ban mass gatherings.

"Our advice at the moment is to push ahead as planned, and round one will go ahead as planned with supporters," McLachlan said.

"The (Victorian) government made a clear statement today that that is the way they see it going, and we will look to them for their advice."

McLachlan said Tuesday's meeting with clubs gave him confidence the game was well-equipped to deal with the inevitable issues pertaining to coronavirus.

"We intend to play every game this season, that is all I can say and we intend to make decisions to get that done," McLachlan said.

"There is a lot of uncertainty in all of this, we have to deal with decisions as they come up, but we are well resourced, well planned, well organised, and we are an agile industry, and three hours with the clubs today made it very clear we will work together on a response.

"I feel we are as well prepared as an industry can be to respond to whatever we need to deal with and after that it is hypothetical and I don't want to speculate."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/384419/why-coronavirus-could-force-the-afl-to-play-games-without-fans

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Cotchin: We’ll play in front of no one

Jon Ralph
Herald Sun
11 March 2020


Richmond captain Trent Cotchin says he would be happy to play parts of the AFL season at empty stadiums rather than have games cancelled if the coronavirus crisis worsens.

Cotchin told the Herald Sun he would be directed by the AFL as the Tigers put in place measures to lock down their football department from non-essential visitor groups.

He said he hoped he could play in front of TV audiences even if fans were locked out.

“It doesn’t take away from the fact that our fans still want to see the game they love and support the team they love and if that has to be on TV for a period of time then so be it,” he said.

Richmond has joined GWS and restricted access to its football department to essential players and staff only.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/richmond-premiership-captain-trent-cotchin-prepared-to-play-in-empty-stadiums-if-coronavirus-forces-ban-on-public-gatherings/news-story/6116795bd9e26142bc81d55cfa0e8476

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Re: Fan less games
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2020, 12:08:03 PM »
Two-time Richmond premiership star Jack Riewoldt plays home games in front of one of the biggest supporter bases in the competition.

The triple Coleman Medal winner said it would be a massive disadvantage for those with parochial fans, but believes fans will hear things they aren’t usually privy to if empty stands are enforced.

“When we played GWS in the preliminary final in 2017 there was 95,000 people there and obviously 90,000 of them were Richmond supporters which was a bloody big influence on the game – we really thrived off that energy,” Riewoldt said.

“To have no one there you’re going to have to create a lot of hype.

“The audio of the game will be pretty interesting because everyone will be watching from home and the mics that will be out there can usually pick up most things and you’ll be able to hear a fair bit more than what you can in a normal game.”

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“It will take quite a fair bit of worry and anxiety out of the game for the players, because I know speaking first hand, sometimes you get a bit nervous running out in front of 80 or 90,000 people,” Treloar said on AFL 360 on Tuesday night.

“Imagine running out – and it is a Collingwood and Richmond game – and there is no one there; you might relax a bit more and enjoy the game a bit more.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/coronavirus-reality-dawns-on-richmond-forward-jack-riewoldt-and-collingwood-midfielder-adam-treloar/news-story/ef30ed3bace32464889ce6b82894e4c3

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Re: Fan less games
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2020, 01:29:57 PM »
Put Treloar's comments away in the memory bank. Jack loves playing in front of big crowds while Treloar doesn't.


Back on topic, Italy has now completely stopped their soccer/football season with their nationwide shutdown.
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AFL, clubs braced for hit if virus causes lockouts or cancellations (Age)
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2020, 03:04:55 AM »
AFL, clubs braced for hit if virus causes lockouts or cancellations

Jake Niall, Michael Gleeson, Peter Ryan
The Age
12 March 2020


The AFL has minimal insurance coverage for the significant financial losses that will come if and when matches are played in empty stadiums, or for the worst-case scenario of games being cancelled.

Clubs were bracing for the heavy financial burden from the very real prospect of crowd-less games due to a government ban on mass gatherings as they seek to slow the spread of coronavirus.
Games may go ahead in crowd-less stadiums.

The AFL's initial position is that the onus is mainly on the clubs to foot the bill of lost earnings from the complete loss of gate-takings.

AFL sources said that it would be the clubs, rather than the AFL, that would be hit harder by crowd-less games, because the league had the broadcast earnings and huge sponsorship deals locked-in, while the lost gate receipts were the domain of clubs.

The AFL was ready to use the future fund – established with an initial $120 million from the broadcast rights deal – to shore up any losses from coronavirus fallout, though it is unclear whether clubs would be compensated.

A memo sent to AFL clubs indicated the AFL's insurance did not contemplate payouts for an epidemic. AFL sources said there would be some limited coverage for losses, but that there would be a substantial loss of revenues.

The AFL was scrambling to sort out contingencies after a Victorian Government briefing this week made clear that more drastic measures – such as the locked-out games – were a distinct possibility and that football was likely to face major consequences.

AFL Players Association boss Paul Marsh briefed player agents on the situation on Wednesday and warned they should be braced for the strong chance that some games would be crowd-less.

The league is updating clubs but the position remains fluid on a range of matters, such as how club members could be refunded if they are locked out of games. This difficult issue was debated at the meeting of the AFL and clubs (chief executives) on Tuesday.

The AFL was still trying to work out who could attend games if there was a ban on mass gatherings. It was undecided whether media – other than the broadcaster – could attend locked-out games.

It has been decided that no media will be allowed in the rooms before or after games if they are held behind closed doors.

Many clubs were eager for a united front on the membership refund issue, but said it was premature to take a position until it was known if games would be affected.

Players have been warned to take a range of precautions including not shaking hands with people, limiting contact with fans, only signing autographs with their own pen and not holding a phone for a selfie. Clubs are having no open training sessions. The Bulldogs, Brisbane Lions and Collingwood were set to enforce some of these protocols at their season launches on Wednesday night.

Some AFL clubs said that in the event that one of their players being found to have the virus that players would be quarantined but not the whole team or club, and so games could conceivably go ahead.

However, any decision on whether games went ahead or were held in empty stadiums would be taken by governments, and not the AFL or clubs.

The warnings came as an EPL fixture between Arsenal and Manchester City was postponed simply because the manager of another team Arsenal had recently played – not one of the players – had contracted the virus.

In the event that a game was forced to be cancelled, the AFL’s position has previously been that the first and strong preference is for another window to be found in which to play the game.

Clubs have launched a host of precautionary measures to limit the exposure of their players to the virus, including exploring the possibility of chartering their own flights for games. A minimum party of 60, including players, was required to travel to a game according to one club.

Clubs have been told to cut discretionary spending in expectation of heavy financial losses in the game. The AFL has already begun their own cost-cutting program.

Western Bulldogs chief executive Ameet Bains said it was impossible to accurately estimate the cost of games being played in empty stadiums because there were so many variables between games, including which stadium it was played in and the size of the following of the opposition.

But Bains said a single round played in front of no crowd would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Bulldogs president Peter Gordon said the robust health of the AFL at the moment was important in withstanding the likely costs.

"We are both confident and determined that we will survive and we are prepared to take the financial hits necessary to accord with our broader obligation which is to protect our employees and our members and our fans from undue risk," Gordon said.

"I think it is time for cool heads, studious following of what experts tell us particularly with respect to public health, certain segments of the community who are at more risk than others."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-clubs-braced-for-hit-if-virus-causes-lockouts-or-cancellations-20200311-p5495s.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true