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Dynasty debate: Can the Tigers roar back? (Age)
« on: April 08, 2022, 04:27:28 PM »
Dynasty debate: Can the Tigers roar back?

Jon Pierik
The Age
April 8, 2022 — 4.18pm


As the pre-season talk among many in the football industry went, Richmond were ready to have a bounce-back season, even to the point they were again in flag contention.

Star forward Tom Lynch suggested a year off from playing finals, having been cruelled by injuries last year after winning three of the previous four flags, may actually work in the Tigers’ favour, allowing their wily veterans to regenerate.

However, with one win and two losses heading into Saturday night’s clash against grand finalist Western Bulldogs, the debate has shifted to whether the Tigers’ dynasty is all but over.

Jonathan Brown, the Brisbane Lions’ triple-premiership hero, this week recalled the Lions’ 2005 season, when the team’s hunger for success after its dynasty was not what it had been, and fears the same is now happening at Punt Rd.

“I’ve lived it in 2005 and I’m concerned for the Tigers,” Brown told Fox Footy’s On The Couch. “I was a younger player – because at the time you’d go: ‘No this is BS, Browny’s talking out of his backside’ – but when I look back 20 years ago, you were just a bit off with your hunger.

“Can you scrap and fight and hang in there when you know your best is past you? I look back 20 years later and go: ‘You know what? That happened to us’.”

Brown’s comments are valid, but hunger can be intangible, hard to measure or define. Were the Tigers hungry against the Saints last Sunday? Two goals in the opening minute would suggest so. Ten straight goals against, having led by 25 points, may not, but club insiders point to a long injury and absence list, questioning how well hunger can be judged if the talent or cohesion isn’t there.

Club insiders also point out the Tigers have led in the final terms of all three matches so far, having also been run over by Carlton in round one.

Max King, the hero last week with four final-quarter goals, only escaped the leash when Tigers’ co-captain Dylan Grimes hobbled off in the third term. Grimes has been replaced by Ben Miller, 22, this week. His absence will hurt, for he is the central piece of an orbiting defence now requiring Robbie Tarrant, the veteran Kangaroo in his first year in yellow and black, and draftee Josh Gibcus to be key pillars.

Dustin Martin remains on personal leave, with no time frame to return. At his best, he remains a match winner, but he couldn’t sway the result against the Blues in round one.

Midfield hard nut Dion Prestia (hamstring) and veteran forward Jack Riewoldt (fractured thumb) have been named to return this week, while injured fellow premiership stars Nick Vlastuin and Kane Lambert are closing in on a return.

The Tigers’ game plan remains much the same. The Saints say they fell into the trap of playing “ping pong” footy in a free-flowing first quarter last week but had the game on their terms when they were more considered in their approach. How will the Tigers respond the next time this happens? One thing they must do is cut the ill-discipline which has frustrated coach Damien Hardwick.

They aren’t winning the hard ball they once did, with Hardwick this week urging a lift in effort for pre-clearance work and behind the ball. It won’t be easy against the deep Bulldogs.

Noah Balta has been a success up forward. He has eight goals in three games, and the Tigers scored seven of the 10 times he was the target against the Saints. Some observers suggest he should be thrown into the midfield.

“We are really happy with our offensive game. We are scoring well when we get the ball in there. I think we are one of the most efficient scoring sides in the AFL at present,” Hardwick said.

“What’s probably happened in the last couple of games where we have lost is that we haven’t had the opportunity to score because it hasn’t gone in there.”

All is not lost for the Tigers should they slip to 1-3 (Adelaide and Melbourne await over the next fortnight) but the premiership aura will lose another layer of its glow. The core of this side was there in 2013 when the club returned to the finals for the first time since 2001. Yes, the real run began in 2017 but for Trent Cotchin, 32, Shane Edwards, 33, Riewoldt, 33, Grimes, 30, and even Vlastuin, 28 this month, there are many miles on the legs.

Cotchin is not running out games the way he once was. He needs more help in the midfield. That he disposed of the ball 17 times by hand – and only six by foot – last weekend was a questionable balance. He had 12 kicks and six handballs a week earlier in the win over Greater Western Sydney.

For a handful of Tigers battling Father Time, they know this may well be their final premiership run. Riewoldt told The Age in February this could be his final season. Neil Balme, the club’s senior advisor, said at the time the Tigers were “desperate” for another flag but, like Hardwick, already the club’s longest-serving coach and contracted until the end of 2024, acknowledged there’s a two-tiered approach they must now follow.

The Tigers began the season with 19 players aged 22 or under and need to determine whether they can potentially be a part of the next wave of premiership stars.

“We have got one eye firmly on the now but we have also got an eye firmly on the future as well,” Hardwick said.

The Lions, as Brown relayed, fell into the abyss for years from 2005. The Tigers are determined to avoid this.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dynasty-debate-can-the-tigers-roar-back-20220408-p5abvu.html

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Re: Dynasty debate: Can the Tigers roar back? (Age)
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2022, 06:59:49 PM »
Seems to me all Hardwick is determined to do atm is play the old blokes for as long as possible

No hard decisions are being made its more of the same play the favorites until their form is so bad for so long that your hand is forced.

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Re: Dynasty debate: Can the Tigers roar back? (Age)
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2022, 11:36:25 AM »
Seems to me all Hardwick is determined to do atm is play the old blokes for as long as possible

No hard decisions are being made its more of the same play the favorites until their form is so bad for so long that your hand is forced.

obviously still aiming high this year. 1 and 2 now with us needing to be 13 and 9 at worse to play finals. Need 12 more wins.

So not dead yet. Still aiming at playing finals. So still playing the older guys.