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Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« on: October 06, 2023, 04:06:41 PM »
Josh Jenkins has us finishing bottom in 2024

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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2023, 04:55:01 PM »
Josh Jenkins has us finishing bottom in 2024

I mean you never know, but me thinks he's still salty about 2017

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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2023, 05:58:16 PM »
Josh Jenkins has us finishing bottom in 2024

He won't be the only commentator*** making that prediction  :lol


*** notice how I said commentator not expert  ;D
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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2023, 06:14:52 PM »
It irritates me no end when these “commentators “ talk about us , if things are going bad for us there’ seems to be greater glee and enthusiasm in their voice or words and they don’t hesitate to sink the boot in harder when it’s us .
I’ve always put this down as jealousy on their behalf because we are more passionate and care about our club more  than most.


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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2023, 06:43:41 PM »
Tall poppy syndrome.

Fine by me. Their tears are glorious when we're winning and their hatred sustains me when we're down.

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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2023, 08:08:21 PM »
Josh Jenkins has us finishing bottom in 2024

I have Josh finishing on a retainer commentating the dish lickers on sen racing in 2024
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2023, 11:16:17 PM »
“GENUINE CONTENDER TO FINISH BOTTOM”: JENKINS EXPLAINS BOLD RICHMOND CALL

By Seb Mottram
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6 October 2023


Josh Jenkins believes the Richmond Football Club are “genuine contenders” to win the wooden spoon in 2024.

The former Cats assistant coach made the bombshell call on AFL Trade Radio’s The Late Trade just a month on from Richmond finishing 13th on the ladder.

It’s on the back of Richmond’s lack of young core and poor hand at the 2023 National Draft. The Tigers gave up plenty for Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper this year, but have left themselves with just one pick in the top 44 in return.

With the lack of top draft picks in recent years and after trading more for their new midfield duo, Jenkins fears the Tigers have left themselves in a hole.

“Unless Shai Bolton, Dusitn Martin and probably a returning Tom Lynch have very, very strong years next year, I think Richmond are a genuine contender to finish on the bottom next year,” he began.

“I think Hopper has got a lot of upside on what we saw this year… whether it will equate to what they’ve given up in a pick six sense I don’t know, and that’s going to play itself out over the long term.

“But they don’t have much to take to the draft, that’s problematic in itself. When you spend five years competing and winning premiership, you don’t get access to top end talent.

“But then when you fall off the other end, if you move those picks and it doesn’t necessarily work in your favour it makes that hole even larger because you’re expanding the time you haven’t had top picks.”

Taranto did claim Richmond’s best and fairest this year in a strong debut season at Punt Road.

But Bolton is the only Tiger on Richmond’s list to be under the age of 25 and have played more than 100 games. It’s a fact that will concern new coach Adem Yze, who hasn’t put a ceiling on how high the Tigers can go under his watch.

“I want the players walking into the footy club thinking they can make the top four next year. I can’t wait to get started,” Yze said when appointed last month.

However, Jenkins identified several problems with the club’s youth.

“Of their young players… Rhyan Mansell finished 20th (in the best and fairest) and Tyler Young – who was awarded their best young player – was equal 14th,” the former Cat and Crow continued.

“A lot of club lists have a youngster or two who feature, who jump up in there and prove themselves a driver of the club.

“Josh Gibcus is the one who can be a long-term key defender for them… Jack Ross has shown enough to suggest he can probably, with some more experience, be a really serviceable wingman.

“I like Samson Ryan, but he’s got a lot of development to do… Ben Miller has done a really admirable job of being a backup ruck and being a key forward, he’s undersize significantly so I don’t know if there’s that much to work with him.

“Jacob Koschitzke comes in, the jury has to be right out on him… hand up, I don’t know some of the other guys well enough to make an assessment on them, to be fair we haven’t seen them at the level, so that tells us one thing.

“There’s a query on Maurice Rioli… Hugo Ralph-Smith I’m not certain has a long term future… Thomson Dow burst onto the scene… and his form and selection has really plateaued.

“Noah Cumberland has a bit of talent but has some things he really needs to work on… so I’m not certain where the young players are to ensure that you avoid the cliff, the cliff that always is there when you’re challenging and competing for premierships.

“With great reward comes great risk of really dropping off, and that’s what Geelong has balanced for 15 years… Richmond really risk falling away on the back of no picks, questions over their young talent and we know a lot of their ageing players are gone or about to be gone.

“So genuine questions on Richmond for the immediate future and probably the mid-term.”

Hawks forward Koschitzke has requested a trade to Richmond but the Tigers overall are set for a quiet trade period given their lack of assets.

The club farewelled greats Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt at the conclusion of the 2023 season.

It comes after the Tigers won three premierships in a period of four years under coach Damien Hardwick, who departed mid-2023.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/10/06/genuine-contender-to-finish-bottom-jenkins-explains-bold-richmond-call/

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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2023, 11:25:11 PM »
 :lol :lol :lol
Thomson Dow “burst on the scene”

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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2023, 12:01:21 AM »
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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2023, 07:42:00 AM »
Collingwood team this year was quite old so given a new coach there's nothing stopping us bar injuries.
But he has a point that our youth is underdone and not yet performing but they haven't played a lot of games.

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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2023, 08:11:22 AM »
Wow big statement by JJ. We have plenty of natural talent on our list. The problem we need to address is in the middle of the ground. Ruck and Midfielder connection. If we can get that right I believe we can contend again next year. A strong and hard working preseason is the key. Last year our preseason was just lazy garbage 🗑.... When you really think about it, the coaching change has come at the right time. Yze does need to make senior players accountable from early in the season. That includes Bolton, Graham, Nankervis, Grimes and others for lacklustre efforts. No lacklustre attitudes in 2024. We also need the Umpires to be fair..

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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2023, 10:16:52 AM »
Collingwood team this year was quite old so given a new coach there's nothing stopping us bar injuries.
But he has a point that our youth is underdone and not yet performing but they haven't played a lot of games.

The Pies GF side was the 3rd oldest to win a flag apparently

Seems no one is talking about that little fact though ;D
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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2023, 06:03:45 PM »
This is coming off a season where West Coast looked like one of the worst sides in history. Losing by 100 points or more the most times in any season.

North Melbourne being so poor they need draft concessions.

Yet we will finish bottom. Righto JJ absolutely spud.
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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2023, 08:18:13 PM »
Best case. Soft draw, great run with injuries the oldies dont go into further decline then maybe 8th or there abouts is a possibility.

Worst case and all that imply's then why not a spoon.

Its simple we are not winning a flag with the cattle we have and its more likely than not that in the short to medium term we will continue to decline.

At the end of 2020 people were asking do we have one more in us. Now its got to the point where you can realistically ask will they make finals.

Unrealistic rebuild time frames and denial are a great recipe for sustained failure. We should all know that lesson.

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Re: Richmond to finish bottom in 2024: Josh Jenkins
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2023, 09:38:40 PM »
Best case. Soft draw, great run with injuries the oldies dont go into further decline then maybe 8th or there abouts is a possibility.

Worst case and all that imply's then why not a spoon.

Its simple we are not winning a flag with the cattle we have and its more likely than not that in the short to medium term we will continue to decline.

At the end of 2020 people were asking do we have one more in us. Now its got to the point where you can realistically ask will they make finals.

Unrealistic rebuild time frames and denial are a great recipe for sustained failure. We should all know that lesson.

the game against swans at the g round 4 of 2021 i knew we were cooked.

losses were beginning to become bigger and bigger, and we were losing our defensive pressure. Players started to check out from that game IMO, and play when they wanted to.

the fact people still thought we could contend in march of this year is laughable.

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