Kamdyn McIntosh [merged]

[the claw]

Lol so now the cut off point to be called experienced is 200 games.
We have plenty of experienced players. How many times does it need to be done.How many times do people need to ignore it.

Nankervis, Lynch, Prestia who we also kept for experience, Short who they keep playing, Broad, Vlastuin, Balta has over 100 games Ross, Hopper, Taranto, Kossie, Mansell, Lefau, Young, Miller. Are all mature players aged 24 or more. 9 of em have at least 100 games and the majority of the rest have been on the list for 3 or more years.

Experienced is an excuse. Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.

Simply put the argument is not about experience. its about 1/ how well he plays 2/ what he actually brings on game day and 3/ the biggie to be asked is he taking the spot away from a kid simply because of sentiment?

On All three he gets a fail.
Why would it have been so hard to keep him around the club in some sort of capacity without putting him on the list. Anyone want to answer that one?

He would have made a good leader for all the kids that are coming playing VFL.

Think you're wrong on this one

Mate i get plenty wrong but on this i think im right.

I have already shot the we need him for experience call down. Something his defenders just plain ignore.
We are not bereft of mature and experienced players. Anyone want to actually put up an opposing argument here?

There is no call for us to keep him solely for that reason. In fact it is wrong. imo we are not short of experienced players or more to the point that devoid of them that we have to desperately hang onto underperformers like McIntosh. I have given a pretty decent list to suggest im right.


There is nothing but he is good around the club and he has high training standards. That is the pro's for giving him another year on the list. Thanks but no thanks for me.

Another question apart from the shot down experience crap. given the other  two things they think we need to keep him for, why would we not get him off the list as we are wasting a spot and denying someone a go on the list.  What is so hard about  finding  a role for him  within the club either coaching or even playing VFL. Anyone want to answer.

Iv'e been  happy to go into his form, his stats his foibles on field and the players who need to be tried in his role. All just ignored so why bother again.
Are we having a debate ?  well only  one side is making any relevant points here..Seems  it does not suit the pro crowd to enter into a factual debate nope lets just be ignorant and ignore it again. 
At least i list good reasons why we should not keep him, all i get back is the spurious oh he is good around the club and he trains hard.

Mate given that you went salty and MIA when we got the 2017 flag after all the nonsense you said beforehand I think we can agree you get plenty wrong from time to time and maybe aren't the best judge of where the club is at culturally etc.

I think the club is better positioned now than it has been most of the last 40 years.

If they see benefit and value in keeping KMac I agree and support their decision.

So im not allowed to have a go back after that one bringing up something from 8 years ago. If thats not a personal shot what is.

[the claw]

I’ll have a crack as for a reason they might have kept him.

And I might add I was on the fence regarding whether to do so and didn’t care whichever way they went.

My thoughts.

He plays a position requiring gut running and he covers a lot of territory. Something that often takes the kids aerobically a couple of pre-seasons to be able to do at his levels.

We lost Graham (another who covers territory and Pickett, the other winger)

Maybe they see a role that K-Mac and his ability to gut run both ways on a wing will be able to do that the kids won’t.

I was not having a go at him in this post initially it was a go at those who just ignore what has been said unlike them he at least had a go. Talk about precious. and selective after all the narcissistic posts he has thrown my way.

[the claw]

Last one yeah the duffell coat shot was aimed at all those on here who just derail any objective debate with nothing but praise.

Any way i think it pee poor that a mod would join sides and neglect to take a proper look at what is going on.

I have offered this before. If you don't want me here just say it here. I will leave you and your little narrow minded group of cronies to yourselves.I at least am honest when i make it clear i have little time for some around here.

[Gigantor]

The only place the man should be played is on the field of battle
To quote the great Malcolm Blight” opinions are like arseh##es everyone’s got one

[camboon]

Oh stop it, you can’t claim to be the victim if you’re  the bully, do you ever wonder why you have so many posters taking offence at your posts?

[Damo]

I’ll have a crack as for a reason they might have kept him.

And I might add I was on the fence regarding whether to do so and didn’t care whichever way they went.

My thoughts.

He plays a position requiring gut running and he covers a lot of territory. Something that often takes the kids aerobically a couple of pre-seasons to be able to do at his levels.

We lost Graham (another who covers territory and Pickett, the other winger)

Maybe they see a role that K-Mac and his ability to gut run both ways on a wing will be able to do that the kids won’t.

I was not having a go at him in this post initially it was a go at those who just ignore what has been said unlike them he at least had a go. Talk about precious. and selective after all the narcissistic posts he has thrown my way.

You are a deadset effwit

How was I being precious?

My post is VERY REASONABLE

Standard Claw

If it doesn’t suit the narrative, toys out the cot

[one-eyed]

The biggest STEAL of every AFL Draft since 2010

Which player provided the biggest bang-for-buck from each National Draft?

Frank Seal
zerohanger.com
November 2, 2024

2012 DRAFT - Kamdyn McIntosh (Richmond Tigers, Pick 31)

In 2012, Richmond's selection of Kamdyn McIntosh at pick 31 proved to be a decision that would bring immense value to the club.

Known for his hard-running ability and versatility, McIntosh solidified his place as a valuable winger and occasionally shifted into a half-back role.

Hailing from Pinjarra, Western Australia, McIntosh's journey was marked by resilience and dedication. After a couple of seasons developing in the VFL, he made an impressive AFL debut in 2015 with a standout performance, earning the Cosgrove-Jenkins award as Richmond's best first-year player.

However, it was his contributions during Richmond's premiership-winning campaigns in 2017 and 2020 that truly highlighted his impact.

Known for his consistent work ethic, McIntosh's robust, hard-running style fit perfectly within Richmond's high-pressure game plan.

His two premiership medals are a testament to his value to the team and his ability to perform on the biggest stage.

His journey from a late second-round pick to a dual premiership player epitomises his evolution into one of the league's underrated steals.

https://www.zerohanger.com/the-biggest-steal-of-every-afl-draft-since-2010-156519/3/

[Andyy]

Frank obviously hasn't met clawski lol

[Hard Roar Tiger]

What I have always liked about KMac has been his commitment to the team and the role given to him by the coaches. Something I think the new breed can learn from.

[MintOnLamb]

What I have always liked about KMac has been his commitment to the team and the role given to him by the coaches. Something I think the new breed can learn from.

That’s all anyone can do, good on him

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Some of the more maligned players  by supporters in premiership teams are in fact the most valued inside the 4 walls of the club.

[lamington]

I think it was in one of Konrad Marshall’s books when he spent a year at tigerland covering a premiership he mentioned kmac is supremely rated at tigerland.

I like to think of afl lists like a game of chess. You have your queen (eg prime dusty) but you also have Pawns and minor pieces. As much as you want you can’t start a game with 15 queens. Kmac is a solid bishop.

[WilliamPowell]

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Last one yeah the duffell coat shot was aimed at all those on here who just derail any objective debate with nothing but praise.

Any way i think it pee poor that a mod would join sides and neglect to take a proper look at what is going on.

I have offered this before. If you don't want me here just say it here. I will leave you and your little narrow minded group of cronies to yourselves.I at least am honest when i make it clear i have little time for some around here.

I have deliberately taken a while to reply to this as I thought it was best I take some time to allow myself some time to calm down.

It is very clear to me that you just don't get it. Your replies to things in this thread sadly proves it.

Your opinion(s) are just that your opinion(s) they are no better, no more valid than anyone else's on this forum but somehow you think they are.

You really need to get your head around this ... Despite what you believe or think you are not some great oracle who is always right and has some right to lambast others who dare to disagree with you

As I said last week "without fail as you have proven time and time again is that when anyone writes anything that is the opposite of your opinion they are wrong."

Your very first statement above simply highlights it.

It seems in your world outside of never being wrong you are allowed to belittle people with a jibe but heaven forbid if someone calls you out; you fall back on your standard claim of you're being personally attacked.

Further to that and again using your very first sentence above you justify your insult and imply it is somehow deserved because people are supposedly trying to "derail any objective debate with nothing but praise". Are people not allowed to agree with decisions the Club makes, is that not discussing the issue especially when they clearly explain their views? Clearly in your world it seems it isn't. Well I have a news flash for you that's not on them, that's on you. People are allowed to disagree with you!

Which brings me to your 2nd sentence which if it wasn't so far from the truth it would be funny. As it stands it's just another attempt by you to either deflect or avoid taking any responsibility for your behaviour, your insulting of others and your blindness in believing you are always right. TBH I doubt very much the posters who you claim I am "protecting" and have been issued strikes (suspension) had their posts edited and/or removed would agree with your assertion about me taking sides.

To your final comment and "offer" which BTW I see you had to include another insult for good measure. You want to leave then leave. No one forces you to come on here and post. Don't throw it back on me or anyone else to tell you to go that's the coward's way; for crying out loud own it and make the choice yourself.

You don't like certain people who cares? We all don't have to like each other but what (and this includes you) we should be able to do is show one another respect. and BTW being rude and arrogant towards people isn't being honest despite what you think.

A number of years ago I posted this about this forum and it holds true today ...

"We want discussion, solid debate and differing opinions. ...But to turn on other posters and abuse solely because they have a differing opinion is not on. It actually says more about the person resorting to that rather than those who are prepared to discuss and debate the issues."