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Re: Southport Roos/ Western (Sydney) Bulldogs
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2006, 10:58:31 PM »
North should go asap that way theyll get most out of the deal, the longer they wait the more theyll cough up to Southport. Itll be the difference between naming the club Northern Kangaroos or Northern Sharks. Sharks apparantly are trying to buyout the shares in North as we speak and theyve announced a press conference for tomorrow.

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Geelong supports fewer Victorian clubs
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2006, 01:55:23 AM »
Pressure to relocate mounts on strugglers
Jenny McAsey
The Australian
May 04, 2006

GEELONG president Frank Costa has distanced himself from Melbourne's poorer clubs, saying they could not be propped up by the AFL in the long-term because it was hurting others.

Costa said yesterday Victoria could not support 10 clubs and at least one of the financially troubled teams would have to relocate interstate or go out of business.

Melbourne, Western Bulldogs and the Kangaroos have received more than $1million each under the league's special distribution of funds.

But as the club presidents and the AFL gather in Melbourne today to discuss how the $780m television rights money should be carved up, pressure is mounting for the special handouts to eventually end.

Costa aligned himself with the bosses of two of the AFL's richest clubs, West Coast's chairman Dalton Gooding and Adelaide's Bill Sanders.

"I feel quite sure there is a limited period of time that the AFL can continue funding a few clubs because it is really at the expense of all clubs," Costa said.

"Every $16 that goes into one club out of the special assistance fund, that is a dollar out of every other club's pocket."

Costa said the AFL was preparing the way for one of the struggling clubs to shift to Queensland or Sydney.

"It is very hard to see how Victoria can sustain 10 clubs in the long-term," he said. "We are already seeing the stresses that are on some of the Victorian clubs just to break even.

"While it is a very unpleasant thing for members of those clubs and, if it was Geelong I would be devastated, relocation is better than extinction."

Sanders yesterday called for the AFL to put together a lucrative relocation package, using funds from the TV rights windfall, as an incentive for a Melbourne-based club to move.

The Adelaide chairman suggested it could be along the lines of the merger package put forward by the AFL a decade ago, which resulted in Fitzroy joining with Brisbane.

"I know this will be controversial but maybe it's time for the AFL commission to resurrect the old merger package, but redesign it as a relocation package," Sanders said.

"I am not talking about one of the clubs playing a few games interstate each season. They should move the whole show."

Another club president, who did not want to be named, suggested the AFL could set aside around $10m a year from the $140m it will receive annually between 2007 and 2011 from the new TV deal, to fund a relocated team. He said a transplanted team would need a big funding boost to survive the first five to seven years.

"If the AFL have learned anything from the relocation of South Melbourne to Sydney," he said, "it is that you have to capitalise these moves not just for the first year but for five to seven years, and I would say it would require a capitalisation of $40 to $50m.

"The AFL's very strong preference would be, rather than to keep subsidising clubs in Melbourne for the next decade, to bite the bullet and relocate clubs to areas where they are more strategically relevant than they are now."

Last weekend, West Coast's Gooding warned that at least one Victorian club faced extinction if it didn't relocate in the near future.

"We believe the AFL should offer attractive incentives for a Melbourne-based AFL club to be relocated because 10 AFL clubs in Melbourne is, in our club's view, not sustainable," said Gooding, who is in charge of a club that had an operating profit of $4m last year and has more than 42,000 members.

The AFL club bosses are getting together in Melbourne today to try to reach some common ground before they meet the AFL commission to hear how it plans to spend the extra finances.

Costa acknowledged his opinions on relocation could cause tension among the ranks of the presidents.

"It is a reality we have to face. The AFL has been good enough to have that special support fund to allow money to go into the clubs that really needed it just to balance their books," Costa said.

"If they hadn't received that money over the last three or four years there would be clubs already extinct and gone."

David Smorgon, president of the cash-strapped Western Bulldogs, would not comment yesterday on the pressure coming from the more financially stable clubs.

"The time to put our various views is at the meeting (today) rather than publicly airing them," Smorgon said.

Kangaroos chairman Graham Duff declared last week his club would remain based in Melbourne.

The AFL is likely to give all clubs an extra $1m over five years from the TV rights money, however, several, including the Bulldogs and Melbourne, will press for more.

Sanders said the TV rights income should not be seen as the saviour of football clubs. "It is not a cure all for the problems," Sanders said.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19017556-36035,00.html

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Re: Geelong supports fewer Victorian clubs
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2006, 10:39:39 AM »
Pressure to relocate mounts on strugglers
Jenny McAsey
The Australian
May 04, 2006

Sanders said the TV rights income should not be seen as the saviour of football clubs. "It is not a cure all for the problems," Sanders said.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19017556-36035,00.html
If the standard of the play telecast (saints v geelong) last night where the camera is naturally being focussed on the ball in play and not the overall picture of what is happening over the ground with the flooding etc. continues then i am afraid it will not become compulsive viewing and the ratings will drop and the money will stop accordingly and then where will the cure come from.

Perhaps then the powers to be will want the game to be played on shorter fields without any half forward or halfback lines to appease the viewers and lift the ratings.

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Re: Southport Roos/ Western (Sydney) Bulldogs
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2006, 01:49:22 AM »
Roos Carrara deal close
10 June 2006   Herald Sun
Mike Sheahan

THE Kangaroos and Southport have moved a step closer to an alliance that would see the Roos play on the Gold Coast.

Southport wrote to the Roos this week, indicating its willingness to underwrite them in 10 games during three years at Carrara.

The Sharks are willing to commit to $2 million for the package, while allowing the Victorian club to exploit sponsorship and marketing opportunities. The AFL also could subsidise the venture, given its enthusiasm for a presence in south-east Queensland.

The Roos are in the final year of a three-year agreement to play games in Canberra, but have kept their options open on the future.

While they have built a membership in the order of 2000 in the national capital, they believe the games are worth more than they have been getting.

Southport underwrote four AFL games on the Gold Coast this year to a total of $1.1 million, but is believed to have lost more than $200,000 on the exercise.

The Kangaroos recently rejected a "futuristic" Southport invitation to play nine games in Queensland, nine in Melbourne and four elsewhere.

The Roos remain committed to a Melbourne base, despite their familiar problems.

"They have essentially not entertained our idea at this stage," Southport chairman Alan McKenzie said last night.

Asked about the latest offer, McKenzie said: "We're optimistic that it will happen."

Kangaroos chief executive Geoff Walsh said he could not comment on Southport's letter until he had discussed its contents with chairman Graham Duff, who is overseas, and the club's directors.
 
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,19420594%255E19742,00.html

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Re: Southport Roos/ Western (Sydney) Bulldogs
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2006, 01:52:02 AM »
and no wonder why....

Roos an endangered species
10 June 2006   Herald Sun
Mike Sheahan

THE Kangaroos are at crisis point. Probably at the most critical juncture in their VFL-AFL history.

They are floundering on the field (2-8), tracking towards their worst finish in more than 20 years.

It is an unexpected complication to familiar problems with membership, corporate support and exposure.

Despite best endeavours, admirable spirit and a willingness to explore every suggestion, the Roos are losing their battle.

They continue to carry a debt of $3.5-4 million, there has been a 25 per cent attrition rate in membership this year and there's a growing identity problem.

The tell-tale signs are subtle, yet profound: a diminishing presence at games; the number of blue and white jumpers on young backs; what we don't read, hear and see about players; the indecision over whether to stay with Canberra as a second home or move yet again, this time to the Gold Coast.

There is a disturbing level of indifference towards the Kangas. Newspapers rarely carry feature stories on players; no letters to the editor; the major television programs such as The Footy Show seem to ignore them as prospective guests; they are rarely heard at peak times on radio.

While the Roos-Sydney game in Canberra last Sunday drew almost 15,000 people, observers estimated Sydney supporters made up 75 per cent of the crowd.

The club used to boast more ambassadors than the national capital. Circumstances have changed the profile of some – Simon Crean, for example – but where have the others gone?

While Trevor Marmalade and Sam Kekovich continue to fly the flag, Ricky Ponting is one of the few fresh faces.

The Australian captain has genuine passion for his club, wherever he is in the world, and happily does anything asked of him.

If the Roos didn't have such a fine history of defying the odds, if we didn't admire them for their bravery and brilliance through the 1990s, they might be termed an irrelevance.

Chief executive Geoff Walsh angrily rejects that notion, yet is willing to classify the immediate future as "challenging".

"We're a club that will continue to be challenged; we're running a break-even business," he says.

Walsh, who has led the resistance movement for the past four years, said the Roos were enduring their worst start to a season in 20 years, adding: "You can bounce back pretty quickly if you make the right decisions."

He said the administration and coach Dean Laidley retained the passion to do what had to be done.

But do they have the time to rebuild?

It was Laidley who famously told the Herald Sun in October last year: "As much as St Kilda got their priority picks and the Bulldogs got their priority picks, we can't do that.

"If we did that for two years, (it would be) go and shut the doors."

He will have regretted saying that, but it was justification in part back then for the decisions to draft players, including Jonathan Hay, from other clubs.

So, where to from here for the Roos? Walsh says the redevelopment of Arden St is a major advance that will boost morale in all sections of the club.

While they are a chance to win their next three games, it now is a story more about a club's future than how many wins it can muster in a season.

The Kangaroos want to remain a Melbourne-based club, with a presence in Canberra or on the Gold Coast.

Given the AFL's commitment to develop south-east Queensland and the Roos' needs, it is likely they will forsake Canberra for the Gold Coast from next year.

Walsh said: "It's fair to say the decision on where we play will be significantly influenced by what the AFL will offer in a partnership sense."

The Roos, who previously tried and failed in Sydney, are going to have to address the thorny issue of relocation as a matter of urgency.

They need to bargain with the AFL from a position of some strength, not waste away like Fitzroy did, losing all bargaining power in the process.

Walsh and former chairman Allen Aylett have fought bravely, but Aylett stepped aside in favour of Racing Victoria chairman Graham Duff after 50 years as a player and official.

Hard to see Duff giving the same time, passion and level of commitment to his secondary interest.

Walsh, who has been acknowledged by the AFL for his work at Arden St, says he still enjoys the challenge.

Significantly, he adds: "Sometimes you look at other clubs and you wonder what life would be like in someone else's shoes.

"Is the whole North Melbourne community tired of continually supporting the team against the odds? Can your supporter base run out of steam?"

The flood waters keep rising for all: a hard-working administration, a player group struggling to replicate heroic deeds of their predecessors, a frustrated senior coach whose torment is so painfully obvious.

The Southport Sharks are understood to have made a written offer to the Roos this week to play three games on the Gold Coast from next year.

It must become more tempting by the day.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,19419681%255E19742,00.html

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Re: Southport Roos/ Western (Sydney) Bulldogs
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2006, 05:02:39 AM »
North one step closer to Southport....

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AFL eyes stake in Roos, but not for relocation
Caroline Wilson
December 14, 2006

THE AFL has conceded it could buy a financial stake in the North Melbourne Football Club, but denied the move was part of a secret plan to push the cash-strapped Kangaroos out of Victoria.

League boss Andrew Demetriou confirmed to The Age last night that he discussed the potential share purchase at the most recent Kangaroos board meeting — which he attended — during which he also strongly recommended Mark Brayshaw for the position of club chief executive.

He also rejected comparisons with the early 1980s when the then VFL organised its key sponsors and supporters to try to win control of the South Melbourne Football Club by buying memberships in a bid to move the club to Sydney.

"I would hope people wouldn't say that because it's simply not true. We haven't done this in the past because there is no other club which is structured like the Kangaroos with private ownership," he said.

"We did discuss the possibility of buying shares at a board meeting last week. There were some shareholders who were asking whether we'd be interested in purchasing their shares and we said we'd look at it."

Full article at: http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/12/13/1165685752518.html