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A fluid ideology or an inconvenient truth? (Herald-Sun)
« on: December 12, 2008, 04:41:16 AM »
A fluid ideology or an inconvenient truth?
Damian Barrett | December 12, 2008

THE day is Thursday, November 27, two days before the AFL national draft.

The topic is Ben Cousins and on the phone is Craig Cameron, the head of the Richmond football department.

Several times, the Herald Sun asks Cameron whether the Tigers are considering recruiting the ex-Eagle.

Each time, the answer is a resounding "no". The inference is: absolutely no chance.

The reason the questions are asked is simple and valid.

The previous evening, during a question-and-answer forum at a Tom Hafey Club dinner arranged by Richmond Football Club at Punt Rd, Cameron had been bombarded by a provocative Kevin Sheedy - a recently appointed Richmond ambassador - on the very same topic.

Cameron can not understand why the Herald Sun is interested in an exchange between himself and the four-time premiership coach at a club function.

Told Sheedy's views on footy's main topics - particularly Cousins-to-Richmond - were newsworthy, Cameron opted for "no comment", saying he was refusing to buy into the Cousins circus publicly simply because he didn't feel right to offer opinion on a debate in which his club would definitely not be playing a role.

The Herald Sun opted to write an article focused on Sheedy's probing of Cameron about Cousins at the function, describing a witness's account of being able to "hear a pin drop" during the questioning.

It reported how the former Essendon coach had challenged Cameron to answer: "Why not take a punt on Cousins?"

Fast forward to Wednesday, December 10, and the Cousins-to-Richmond debate takes on a very real feel.

Clearly, Richmond's ideology on Cousins has taken a drastic turn between those dates.

At most clubs, ideology is set in stone, but at Richmond, an outsider is entitled to wonder whether ideology is adhered to only until a loophole in rookie-list rules can be exposed.

In other words, Cousins "not being the right mix" for Richmond one day is Cousins "being the right mix" a couple of weeks later, provided the AFL Commission can be convinced that Graham Polak should be listed as a rookie next year.

Which would, of course, provide the Tigers with a second pick at Tuesday's pre-season draft and thus give them access to Cousins.

Cameron is believed to be pretty close to Ricky Nixon, Cousins' manager, and the Herald Sun has been told discussions between the two about the drug-addicted former West Coast player have been held for "at least a few weeks, if not a lot longer".

Cousins has been available to a new club for 12 months.

Collingwood spent the best part of six of those months looking into him, before reeling away at a hundred miles an hour.

St Kilda took five months to look into him before saying a loud "no".

The Brisbane Lions were nowhere near as thorough, then pulled out suddenly when they was made aware of some damning information.

And now the Tigers are doing some homework that should have been done a long, long time before this week.

There was the almost laughable situation yesterday - five days before the pre-season draft - of at least one Richmond director trying to contact a board member of another club that had spent significant time and money on investigating Cousins, wanting to get the lowdown on the state of the 2005 Brownlow medallist.

No matter what the outcome with Cousins, this is all oh so Richmond.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24787806-11088,00.html

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Re: A fluid ideology or an inconvenient truth? (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2008, 08:44:50 AM »
Lets not let the truth get in the way of your bias and opinion hey Damien?

This is without a doubt the worst article written thus far in this whole Cousins-to-Richmond saga.  It smacks of a little kid who has just been told he can't have a lolly and he chucks a tanty because some other kid might.

He uses segment of conversations and occurrences to build a completely distorted view of what has happened behind the scenes (in his opinion) and then questions the integrity of our club inferring that we are the only club in the competition without integrity or an ideology worth following.  No mention of Collingwood having a backflip on ideology when it came to Didak and Shaw, no mention of West Coast having a backflip on ideology when it came to Cousins, Gardiner and Chick, no mention of Carlton having a backflip on ideology when it came to Pratt, no mention of Geelong having a backflip on ideology when it came to Johnson, no attempt to find out when the club/medics made a call on Polak.  No, Damien has shown he is a very lazy, biased and uninformed reporter who has chosen the safe old chestnut of Richmond bashing when he found himself last in the pack of marauding dogs reporting on this circus.  Maybe he got his nose out of joint because he didn't get 'the scoop', maybe he is jealous his team didn't take Cousins, maybe he just doesn't like Richmond, but whatever his reason, this piece of 'journalism' is trash of the highest order.

If anything I probably lean a bit to the 'Cousins not to Richmond' side so I should actually feel comfort from an article that goes my way but crap journalism should be called for what it is.  This was just sh1te!

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Re: A fluid ideology or an inconvenient truth? (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2008, 09:36:47 AM »
I dont know this journalist or his background/agenda but one thing I was concerned about was the apparent rush this was being pushed through with, Collingwood and St Kilda reportedly spent months and months on assessing him and pulled out to undisclosed reasons even though they stated somewhat flimsy reasons publicly.

Not that I put much faith in the admin's of Eddiewood and the Ainters though, they would be lucky to organise the proverbial in a brothel without stuffing something up IMO.

Anyway not too much too lose as long as we act quickly and decisively on any future breaking of the rules by Cousins.  Wallace definitely doesn't have anything to lose and is probably jumping over the moon that Sheedy is pushing this, otherwise I reckon it may not have been as favourably backed by RFC supporters if it was Wallace's brainchild, eg opinion may have formed that he is saving his own skin with no outlook to future of the team etc etc.

If the Cuz recruiting comes off it will definitely add to the excitement of the times.




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Re: A fluid ideology or an inconvenient truth? (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2008, 11:47:34 AM »

Not that I put much faith in the admin's of Eddiewood and the Ainters though, they would be lucky to organise the proverbial in a brothel without stuffing something up IMO.


I thought that was the idea behind such an event.

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Re: A fluid ideology or an inconvenient truth? (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2008, 01:31:14 PM »
LOL the Herald-Sun giving a lecture about truth and honesty  :whistle.

I always thought Craig Cameron was very careful with his words when asked by journos about us picking up Cousins which in hindsight left the door open for a change of mind. Rather than saying we wouldn't pick up Cousins at all it was more that we wouldn't be picking him up in the National draft. In any case every club has the perogative to change their mind back and forth until draft day. IIRC we had every intention of using all 4 picks our picks in the National draft and that didn't happen for various reasons while everyone was expecting at the time that Cousins would end up at either Moorabbin or Brisbane. The circumstances have changed and smart clubs need to be adaptable.
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Re: A fluid ideology or an inconvenient truth? (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2008, 01:17:57 PM »
There is an articles posted on the Ben Cousins thread from The West Australian which quoted the ex board chairman as saying the Cousins had made some ground recently with regard to showing remorse, seeking out Vlad and our club to communicate his desire to play again.

Without going into detail, this had been one of the issues which led to at least one club reconsidering their position on drafting Ben.  Things have changed, Richmond have looked opportunistically at how they can leverage this situation.

It has risk but it is calculated and smart.

Damien  Barrett is just a bloke who writes stuff in the paper.
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Re: A fluid ideology or an inconvenient truth? (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2008, 07:19:10 PM »
A fluid ideology or an inconvenient truth?
Damian Barrett | December 12, 2008

No matter what the outcome with Cousins, this is all oh so Richmond.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24787806-11088,00.html

And this tripe called an opinion piece is "oh so Damien Barrett" .... BIASED CRAP

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