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Offline one-eyed

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There's a lot of expectation about the Tigers, but they really have to start delivering

    Mark Robinson
    Herald-Sun
    March 24, 2013 9:30PM


ESSENDON coach James Hird said it as nicely as he could, that his team had lacked resilience in times of troubles.

In less flattering words, that his team had collapsed under pressure and expectation, that they were softish.

It's why Friday night's win over Adelaide was important on many fronts, all of it with a backdrop of syringes and drugs and inappropriate activities.

The fact was Essendon, after being three goals down and perhaps consumed by self-doubt, won on the back of intent.

Intent drove their defensive mindset and actions, and together with superb coaching, and individual standout games from Howlett, Watson, Hocking, Carlisle and Dempsey, the Bombers announced themselves as a team to consider worthy of serious consideration.

It's why Friday night will be a reference point for the Bombers as the season progresses and why Richmond should draw reference from Essendon's performance.

These two teams, with North Melbourne, St Kilda, Brisbane and Carlton, are peas in a pod. They sat mid-table last year and all need to improve if they are to play finals in 2013.

Intent is not the single most defining factor in either winning or losing, but without it, the odds of winning plummet.

After the ramshackle start against the Crows, the Bombers won the tackle count (73-47) and squared the contested ball after the 12th minute of the first quarter.

Patrick Dangerfield was set upon, the ruckmen kept jumping into Sam Jacobs, missed tackles were rare, numbers were at the contest, mids pushed back, forwards pushed up, the back half attacked wide and through the corridor - so much so that the Crows were dismantled at their own so-called fortress.

Like it or not, the Tigers have been soft in their Round 1 encounters against Carlton.

Since 2007, they have played six times, and Richmond has been smashed four times in contested footy and four times in the tackle count.

The year they won the contested ball and squared the tackle count was in 2008, when the Tigers won by 30 points, their only victory in the six outings.

Winning both these categories gives you a margin of success. In 2012, if you won in both areas you won 74 per cent of games.

It's not rocket science, but it is, and always is in football, a science of the mind.

The Tigers have plenty of positives.

Their ball movement is frighteningly quick - remember the Swans and Hawks wins in 2012? - they have midfield talent and depth, more options in the front half other than Jack Riewoldt and a defence now headed by Troy Chaplin.

But when you beat the grand finalists and then lose close games to Geelong, North Melbourne, Port Adelaide and, heavens above, Gold Coast in the same year, the obvious question is: are they mentally fragile?

The answer is yes.

Against Carlton in Round 1s, it is clearly yes.

The intent to show intent is evident, however.

They won close games in the pre-season, which also is a reference point, and even coach Damien Hardwick has announced it's time.

And just yesterday, new captain Trent Cotchin featured in an advert about the season ahead.

In a moving realisation of where his team is and where it wants to get to, Cotchin spoke of Sydney's summer of celebration, while 17 other teams had a summer of reflection.

"We have been waiting," he said, "for redemption to prove things to ourselves, each other, our families, fans and to our opposition."

They are wonderful words. But still only words.

Because, really, we're sick and tired of hearing how the Tigers are going to do it.

Thursday night can't come quick enough.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/theres-a-lot-of-expectation-about-the-tigers-but-they-really-have-to-start-delivering/story-fnez46xc-1226604450078

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The intent to show intent.

Does that mean we have intent or just want it?
It's that simple Spud
"I discussed (it) with my three daughters, my wife and my 82-year-old mum, because it has really affected me … If those comments … were made about one of my daughters, it would make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I would not have liked it at all.”

Offline Phil Mrakov

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"Richmond should be taking notes from the Bombers if it wants to make good on its winning intentions"
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"Richmond should be taking notes from the Bombers if it wants to make good on its winning intentions"

Marge (or Dimma) "Ned, we meant well and everyone tried their best"
Ned (Long suffering tiger fans) "Marge (Dimma) our family (finals chances) can't live in good intentions"
It's that simple Spud
"I discussed (it) with my three daughters, my wife and my 82-year-old mum, because it has really affected me … If those comments … were made about one of my daughters, it would make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I would not have liked it at all.”

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There's a lot of expectation about the Tigers, but they really have to start delivering


Really have to start delivering?

We haven't played a game yet!
And you may not think I care for you
When you know down inside that I really do

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Good article I thought. Except for talking up Essendon, although what he said was pretty true about that game

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Just an excuse for Robbo to twist an article about the Tigers into a Bombers love fest. To hold up Essendon as a model for all else to follow after one game and one of the worst off seasons in the history of the game could only be done by an Dons supporter. Hard to take the rest of the article serious really.

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We smash them by 50 points in Round 21 (should've been 100) and we should look to them and take notes on how to win.

Absolute FLOG
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tigerz need 2 b more like pizza hut

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From Robbo's online live chat:


Comment From Mark
If the tigers don't make finals. Will hardwick keep his job? If not who would be in line to replace him?

Mark Robinson:
No, he won't get sacked unless they go 3-19 or 4-18.. but that won't happen. Hardwick signed at the satrt of last year and has this year and next to coach



Comment From Buzzzlightyear(TheBuzzKill)
Your top 8 Robbo?

Mark Robinson:
WC, Syd, coll, haw, carlton, adel, fremantle, Geel, ... not in that order



Comment From cairo tiger
can and will the tiges make the 8 robbo I say yes

Mark Robinson:
I don't think so.... still not ready



Comment From KiwiTiger
Kia Ora Robbo. Agree with your sentiment re the Tiges. We need to deliver. Relatively favourable draw. A squad that's coming into the "games played" window with senior player top up. All is pointing to "the time is now." Close losses need to be converted. Tone needs to be set Thursday night. Could be wet so hardness at the contest will win out. Looking forward to watching it at the G.

Mark Robinson:
can't wait myself....



Comment From Tiger_Al
So whats your thoughts on Thursday night Robbo? Are the Blues going to be too strong, or is it time for the Tigers to start taking steps towards their first finals series in far too long? Big big game for both clubs, if Blues lose I think the will start 0-4 and if the Tigers win I think they can start 3-0.
   
Mark Robinson:
Acid is on Tigers.... need to tackle and win contested footy which has been missing in past six Rd1 encounters



   
Comment From Guest
It seems most of the footy journos are saying Richmond need to deliver this year, but most don't think they'll make the top 8. Is that because of history or because of the talent trying to make the 8 and not a lot of teams that look like they'll drop out. I think the latter.

Mark Robinson:
They are in the mix with six other clubs... a win thursday clearly helps their chances



   
Comment From Mark
I agree with the tigers not being ready yet again the hype around them is massive. Why do you think that is when there still at least 12 months away from being a real contender.

Mark Robinson:
yeah, another 12 months would give me more confidence about the Tigers... Ellis, Conca, Vickery need more time



Comment From Robbos Knee Jerk
To say Richmond, Essendon, North, Carlton and St Kilda are 'peas in a pod' is to show you have no idea about the relative state of the lists.

Mark Robinson:
well, not reaslly, my next paragrpah was about the different spheres of development, but because I wrote too much copy for the space allotted, that paragraph was deleted... we are n the same page however


http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/theres-a-lot-of-expectation-about-the-tigers-but-they-really-have-to-start-delivering/story-fnelctok-1226604450078

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HAHAHA love the guy who called him out on as the idiot he is at the end
Lots of people name their swords......

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That's a really good article about Essendon.

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This is the statement that really sums it all up for mine!!

"Because, really, we're sick and tired of hearing how the Tigers are going to do it.

Thursday night can't come quick enough."

DIMMA - You will be held ACCOUNTABLE...

“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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From Robbo's online live chat:

Comment From Guest
It seems most of the footy journos are saying Richmond need to deliver this year, but most don't think they'll make the top 8.

Valid point. How can they put pressure on us telling us we need to make it or its fail etc. but at other times telling us we don't have any/much chance?