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[one-eyed]

Richmond Blueprint 2014: Tigers’ two-pronged recruiting approach helps rebuild
Jay Clark
Herald-Sun
November 15, 2014 7:00PM


THE outlook for Richmond was challenging.

When the team hit 15th under Terry Wallace in 2009, the Tigers were faced with the introduction of two new franchise clubs and years of compromised drafts that threatened to trap the club in the lower reaches of the ladder.

It was Blair Hartley’s job to find a shortcut route through the Richmond rebuild — without compromising its long-term future — by targeting a raft of free agents and mature-age players, including Ivan Maric, Troy Chaplin, Shaun Grigg, Steve Morris and Bachar Houli.

All have finished top-five in the Tigers’ best and fairest.

In a rare interview, Hartley explained the strategy behind the Tiger rebuild, saying the club knew it not rely solely on young talent, as “we could not compete” with the weight of top draft given to the new clubs.

“With Gold Coast and Western Sydney coming through, we had to approach things a little differently,” Hartley said.

“We also knew that, and a lot of people might not, that we have made the most changes to our list from 2009 to the start of 2014.

“So that’s a big turnover, and Francis (Jackson) and the recruiting team have done an amazing job in terms of the players they have brought in.

“So we knew we had to go another way, otherwise we would be battling down the bottom for a long period of time.”

It remains one of the AFL’s most admirable list achievements that the Tigers have since developed — through a two-pronged recruiting approach — into a genuine top-four threat.

The official turnover toll is 37 senior and rookie-listed players since ’09.

The Tigers are expected to target a classy outside midfielder, such as Liam Duggan and Corey Ellis, with pick No. 12 in this month’s national draft.

Hartley said it was a key plank of the club’s strategy to keep all of its first-round draft picks.

“We didn’t have great depth in our list given the amount of changes we had made so they (kids) just had to play. That has been great for them, great for us,” he said.

The first-round roll-call since 2006 has netted Jack Riewoldt (13), Trent Cotchin (2), Tyrone Vickery (8 ), Dustin Martin (3), Reece Conca (6), Brandon Ellis (15), Nick Vlastuin (9) and a bulked-up Ben Lennon (12).

But the poor start to last season also showed the job was far from complete.

“You cannot go into one trade period and change the fortunes of the team,” Hartley said.

“So we have tried to establish a young group of players that Francis has built since the start of 2006.

“And add to that group in the trade and free agency period with a view of getting as many games into the group together as one, which we feel like we have done.”

Hartley said the Tigers would enter next year with an age and experience demographic that measured favourably among other finalists.

“In the final (loss to Sydney) we had an average number of games per player of about 105,” he said.

“The average games per finals team in the last five or six years is 103, so we are on track. The majority of our side is 25 and a half and under.

“So we think it is going well, but there is no real end to the journey.”

http://www.news.com.au/national/richmond-blueprint-2014-tigers-twopronged-recruiting-approach-helps-rebuild/story-e6frfkp9-1227124062205

[Rampstar]

Richmond Blueprint 2014: Tigers’ two-pronged recruiting approach helps rebuild
Jay Clark
Herald-Sun
November 15, 2014 7:00PM


THE outlook for Richmond was challenging.

When the team hit 15th under Terry Wallace in 2009, the Tigers were faced with the introduction of two new franchise clubs and years of compromised drafts that threatened to trap the club in the lower reaches of the ladder.

It was Blair Hartley’s job to find a shortcut route through the Richmond rebuild — without compromising its long-term future — by targeting a raft of free agents and mature-age players, including Ivan Maric, Troy Chaplin, Shaun Grigg, Steve Morris and Bachar Houli.

All have finished top-five in the Tigers’ best and fairest.

In a rare interview, Hartley explained the strategy behind the Tiger rebuild, saying the club knew it not rely solely on young talent, as “we could not compete” with the weight of top draft given to the new clubs.

“With Gold Coast and Western Sydney coming through, we had to approach things a little differently,” Hartley said.

“We also knew that, and a lot of people might not, that we have made the most changes to our list from 2009 to the start of 2014.

“So that’s a big turnover, and Francis (Jackson) and the recruiting team have done an amazing job in terms of the players they have brought in.

“So we knew we had to go another way, otherwise we would be battling down the bottom for a long period of time.”

It remains one of the AFL’s most admirable list achievements that the Tigers have since developed — through a two-pronged recruiting approach — into a genuine top-four threat.

The official turnover toll is 37 senior and rookie-listed players since ’09.

The Tigers are expected to target a classy outside midfielder, such as Liam Duggan and Corey Ellis, with pick No. 12 in this month’s national draft.

Hartley said it was a key plank of the club’s strategy to keep all of its first-round draft picks.

“We didn’t have great depth in our list given the amount of changes we had made so they (kids) just had to play. That has been great for them, great for us,” he said.

The first-round roll-call since 2006 has netted Jack Riewoldt (13), Trent Cotchin (2), Tyrone Vickery (8 ), Dustin Martin (3), Reece Conca (6), Brandon Ellis (15), Nick Vlastuin (9) and a bulked-up Ben Lennon (12).

But the poor start to last season also showed the job was far from complete.

“You cannot go into one trade period and change the fortunes of the team,” Hartley said.

“So we have tried to establish a young group of players that Francis has built since the start of 2006.

“And add to that group in the trade and free agency period with a view of getting as many games into the group together as one, which we feel like we have done.”

Hartley said the Tigers would enter next year with an age and experience demographic that measured favourably among other finalists.

“In the final (loss to Sydney) we had an average number of games per player of about 105,” he said.

“The average games per finals team in the last five or six years is 103, so we are on track. The majority of our side is 25 and a half and under.

“So we think it is going well, but there is no real end to the journey.”

http://www.news.com.au/national/richmond-blueprint-2014-tigers-twopronged-recruiting-approach-helps-rebuild/story-e6frfkp9-1227124062205

Vanilla City coming up I reckon - hope Im wrong but you can sense that they just fear going after a classier player.  If they bypass the likes of Weller or Duggan or Wright or Durdin or Ahern for Ellis then then serious questions have to be asked.

[Judge Roughneck]

Lust of the list blocker

[Mr Magic]

stuff deserves the benefit of the doubt with our first pick. He's also brought in the likes of Griffiths, Edwards and Rance with our 2nd pick over the years so I am not nervous with our destiny in his hands despite the howls of concern from Internet recruiting experts.
Looking forward to seeing what he does with pick 12 this year.

[Judge Roughneck]

Griff was talked up as a top 5pick if not for his shoulder injury

Shredder was as best mid behind Gibbs of the inbreds*

Rance was seen as a top 10, aa chb u18 around gun for Perth. Thousands of richmond fans were screaming at radio to take him at our 2nd pick


Those three were fairly straight forward

[Owl]

It is speculation by the journo, not a quote from the club. 

[Mr Magic]

Griff was talked up as a top 5pick if not for his shoulder injury

Shredder was as best mid behind Gibbs

Rance was seen as a top 10, aa chb u18 around gun for Perth. Thousands of richmond fans were screaming at radio to take him.


Those three were fairly straight forward

Yet a whole heap of clubs recruiters passed them over.

[Phil Mrakov]

4 articles in 1 day. Write about Carltank or some poo Hun you morons

[The Big Richo]

Great to see the second worse operator at the club thinks the third worst has done an amazing job.

High praise indeed.

[Judge Roughneck]

Griff was talked up as a top 5pick if not for his shoulder injury

Shredder was as best mid behind Gibbs

Rance was seen as a top 10, aa chb u18 around gun for Perth. Thousands of richmond fans were screaming at radio to take him.


Those three were fairly straight forward

Yet a whole heap of clubs recruiters passed them over.

and picked up fyfe...

first round picks (and high 2nd round before draft tampering via afl expansion clubs) in the modern era is not rocket science. they should be getting it rightish more often than not

would of thought its the middle/late picks where they earn the money

[the claw]

havent had a look but that article does not mention that of the 37 players delisted since 09 at the very least 2/3 would have been jackson picks and there are many still on the list who are quite frankly lucky to be there still.
its this that is the concern finding just one or two players each off season is not good enough.

also id hazard a guess that every side has turned over at least 30 players or close to it in that time frame.

lets look at it from a different perspective
09 -  just one consistent afl standard  player in  martin   and he was pick 3.
10 - conca at 6 is a fail imo he may end up an okay player he may not.  ffs a top 10 pick. every other player has gone or is a battler.
11- ellis at 15 seems a decent pick nothing more. lots of people have issues with his game.the other picks look like they wont make it in fact arnot has already been delisted.
12 - vlastuin looks a good pick. the other picks have not played a game bar mcdonough who looks ordinary imo.
13 - lennon is yet to play a senior game no one can call this pick a success yet. gordon and lloyd are mature picks both are nothing but depth.

what an absolute joke to be talking rookie picks and jackson in the same breath. if its possible and it is his record is much worse than his nd record.

once again im asking myself why all the talk, when will they learn to stop treating us thinking supporters like fools and just shut the hell up. no more talk let actions do the talking for just freakin once.

[big tone]

havent had a look but that article does not mention that of the 37 players delisted since 09 at the very least 2/3 would have been jackson picks and there are many still on the list who are quite frankly lucky to be there still.
its this that is the concern finding just one or two players each off season is not good enough.

also id hazard a guess that every side has turned over at least 30 players or close to it in that time frame.

lets look at it from a different perspective
09 -  just one consistent afl standard  player in  martin   and he was pick 3.
10 - conca at 6 is a fail imo he may end up an okay player he may not.  ffs a top 10 pick. every other player has gone or is a battler.
11- ellis at 15 seems a decent pick nothing more. lots of people have issues with his game.the other picks look like they wont make it in fact arnot has already been delisted.
12 - vlastuin looks a good pick. the other picks have not played a game bar mcdonough who looks ordinary imo.
13 - lennon is yet to play a senior game no one can call this pick a success yet. gordon and lloyd are mature picks both are nothing but depth.

what an absolute joke to be talking rookie picks and jackson in the same breath. if its possible and it is his record is much worse than his nd record.

once again im asking myself why all the talk, when will they learn to stop treating us thinking supporters like fools and just shut the hell up. no more talk let actions do the talking for just freakin once.

Lennon has played senior footy.
FJ is still an idiot. 

[the claw]

havent had a look but that article does not mention that of the 37 players delisted since 09 at the very least 2/3 would have been jackson picks and there are many still on the list who are quite frankly lucky to be there still.
its this that is the concern finding just one or two players each off season is not good enough.

also id hazard a guess that every side has turned over at least 30 players or close to it in that time frame.

lets look at it from a different perspective
09 -  just one consistent afl standard  player in  martin   and he was pick 3.
10 - conca at 6 is a fail imo he may end up an okay player he may not.  ffs a top 10 pick. every other player has gone or is a battler.
11- ellis at 15 seems a decent pick nothing more. lots of people have issues with his game.the other picks look like they wont make it in fact arnot has already been delisted.
12 - vlastuin looks a good pick. the other picks have not played a game bar mcdonough who looks ordinary imo.
13 - lennon is yet to play a senior game no one can call this pick a success yet. gordon and lloyd are mature picks both are nothing but depth.

what an absolute joke to be talking rookie picks and jackson in the same breath. if its possible and it is his record is much worse than his nd record.

once again im asking myself why all the talk, when will they learn to stop treating us thinking supporters like fools and just shut the hell up. no more talk let actions do the talking for just freakin once.

Lennon has played senior footy.
FJ is still an idiot. 

yeah your right lennonn has played 8 or 9  forgettable games.
yep fj is still an idiot.  but just watch the fools defend him and his record.

[Judge Roughneck]

havent had a look but that article does not mention that of the 37 players delisted since 09 at the very least 2/3 would have been jackson picks and there are many still on the list who are quite frankly lucky to be there still.
its this that is the concern finding just one or two players each off season is not good enough.

also id hazard a guess that every side has turned over at least 30 players or close to it in that time frame.

lets look at it from a different perspective
09 -  just one consistent afl standard  player in  martin   and he was pick 3.
10 - conca at 6 is a fail imo he may end up an okay player he may not.  ffs a top 10 pick. every other player has gone or is a battler.
11- ellis at 15 seems a decent pick nothing more. lots of people have issues with his game.the other picks look like they wont make it in fact arnot has already been delisted.
12 - vlastuin looks a good pick. the other picks have not played a game bar mcdonough who looks ordinary imo.
13 - lennon is yet to play a senior game no one can call this pick a success yet. gordon and lloyd are mature picks both are nothing but depth.

what an absolute joke to be talking rookie picks and jackson in the same breath. if its possible and it is his record is much worse than his nd record.

once again im asking myself why all the talk, when will they learn to stop treating us thinking supporters like fools and just shut the hell up. no more talk let actions do the talking for just freakin once.

Asbtury was leading b and f = afl standard? Apparently. Grimes is not of that standard ?

If a player is selected at a certain number, yet the draft pool was rapped by the afl, I thinks that's worth noting