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Without a leader nothing will change: David King

Joshua Papanikolaou
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02 Apr 2016, 12:04PM


Nothing will change at Richmond and they will continue to lose a handful of games every season they ought to have won if they do not find a leader capable of organising the team, says David King.

The expectations on the Tigers this year are high and a narrow win against lowly Carlton followed by a one-point defeat to middle-of-the-road Collingwood is not the start they were after.

"To see that kick last night (from Rance) again just highlights the lack of leadership," said King on SEN's Crunch Time.

"It was only a week ago we were throwing him up and nominating is he the next captain, or Jack Riewoldt who's not even in the leadership group.

"Are they a chance to take over the captaincy because I tell you what something has to change at Richmond.

"This has been a constant source of frustration, they need a leader who can organise, not do it, just organise.

"They don't need an inspirational leader, they need an organiser and until they get that it will not change.

"It doesn't have to be a great player, it doesn't have to be a superstar they just need to find one at another club, pay him overs, get him there and teach these guys how to lead."

The often maligned captain Trent Cotchin had a big game with 38 possessions but he again received criticism for being unable to rally the troops when the Tigers needed direction the most.

"I honestly reckon if a Luke Hodge, and forget him as a player and what he does on the field, if a Luke Hodge played for Richmond they'd win three or four more games a year," added king.

"This is not about stats, Nick Maxwell was not a high possession player, but he puts players in the right spots.

"You'll be horrified with some of the vision we'll show on Monday night on the couch."

Mark Robinson from the Herald Sun came to the same conclusion regarding the lack of leadership shown by Damien Hardwick's men in a very poor final few minutes.

"It looked like last night that in that last five minutes after what Jack did to really win the game they were running around thinking 'what do we do here, what happens?'" he said.

"It's so easy to point the finger at leaders, but that's exactly what it was."

http://www.sen.com.au/news/03-16/without-a-leader-nothing-will-change-david-king

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Stunned Tigers need a new leader, says David King

Jon Pierik
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April 3, 2016



Former Richmond assistant coach David King has urged the Tigers to revamp their leadership, with the captaincy of Trent Cotchin under the microscope.

Cotchin had 38 disposals against the Magpies on Friday night but was unable to will his team to victory. The Tigers conceded four of the last five goals — including Brodie Grundy's match-winner with four seconds left — and lost by a point.

Where they could have enjoyed an unbeaten start to the season, the Tigers now head into a potentially bruising fortnight against Adelaide (Etihad Stadium) and the West Coast Eagles (Domain Stadium) questioning themselves.

They almost certainly will be without defender Dylan Grimes, who hurt his hamstring against the Pies, and the already injured Brett Deledio, who still feels soreness in his quad when kicking. However, Ivan Maric and Shane Edwards will be given a chance to prove their fitness.

Coach Damien Hardwick said his team had "played some really unintelligent footy towards the end", while Cotchin said "silly mistakes" had been made.

King on Saturday said there needed to be shake-up in leadership once the season was over.

"I honestly reckon if a Luke Hodge, and forget him as a player and what he does on the field, if a Luke Hodge played for Richmond they'd win three or four more games a year," he said.

"This is not about stats. Nick Maxwell was not a high possession player but he put players in the right spots."

Hawthorn's Hodge has been the benchmark in terms of how a captain should lead on the field, while Maxwell, the former Magpie, was highly regarded for his ability to organise a defensive set-up when the game was in the balance.

It's this type of leader many believe the Tigers need if they are to become a top-four force, having lost three-straight elimination finals. Cotchin has been skipper since 2013.

King said Alex Rance's questionable decision to switch play and kick across goal in the final term, which ultimately resulted in a Magpies' goal, highlighted he was not the right man to lead.

"To see that kick last night again just highlights the lack of leadership," King said on SEN.

"It was only a week ago we were throwing him up and nominating is he the next captain, or Jack Riewoldt who's not even in the leadership group. Are they a chance to take over the captaincy because I tell you what something has to change at Richmond.

"This has been a constant source of frustration, they need a leader who can organise, not do it, just organise. They don't need an inspirational leader, they need an organiser and until they get that it will not change.

"It doesn't have to be a great player, it doesn't have to be a superstar they just need to find one at another club, pay him overs, get him there and teach these guys how to lead."

Rance, Deledio, Maric and Edwards sit alongside Cotchin in the leadership group.

Ty Vickery's decision to look for a short pass rather than soak up time and convert a long shot late in the final term added to the Tigers' frustration, as they let slip an 11-point lead with two minutes remaining.

"Shaun Grigg, with a minute and a half to go, has a long shot from outside 50 and we play on from a situation like that … we never do that," Hardwick said.

"You can be in front for a period of time, but when you beat yourself with smarts it's probably really disappointing.

"I thought we played some really unintelligent footy towards the end … it's easy to individualise but we should never have been in that situation."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-should-sack-trent-cotchin-as-captain-claims-david-king-20160402-gnwpn4.html

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No wonder i only read articles on here and usually steer clear of em.
Wow totally focusing on a minor problem and totally ignoring againg the real ones. I am sick to death of those people in the media who talk us up as top 4 or montys for finals.
It is a poorly put together list lacking quality, structure,  depth and many fundamentals  in key areas, Thats after 10 yrs of Jackson and seven of Hartley.
Those in charge think like King and its little wonder key areas are never addressed, because you cant address a thing if you can't see the problems to begin with.

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No wonder i only read articles on here and usually steer clear of em.
Wow totally focusing on a minor problem and totally ignoring againg the real ones. I am sick to death of those people in the media who talk us up as top 4 or montys for finals.
It is a poorly put together list lacking quality, structure,  depth and many fundamentals  in key areas, Thats after 10 yrs of Jackson and seven of Hartley.
Those in charge think like King and its little wonder key areas are never addressed, because you cant address a thing if you can't see the problems to begin with.

They are both problems. The list is not deep/quality enough but we also lack leadership.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2016, 05:58:56 PM by Willy »

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Just on leadership one thing that stood out in the last 3 minutes from hell was how much we miss Maric the leader in the middle

After Fasalo look got that goal to get them within 5 points there was no centre circle conference to plan what they were going to do or at least try and do.

You see big Ivan do that a lot, call in the mids pre bounce to discuss a strategy

Didn't happen Friday night

That's  why I rate Ivan the leader so highly

Just my take
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Cotchin must go, he needs a break. Give lids or Ivan a chance and hope one of them grows into it.

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Cotchin appears way out of his depth.
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We don't need another captain. We need more on field leaders.
The captain tosses the coin. The game has gone past one player being so important.

Who the stuff cares who is captain?

If players are worried about that then that is our problem. They're not concentrating on things that actually matter.
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We don't need another captain. We need more on field leaders.
The captain tosses the coin. The game has gone past one player being so important.

Who the stuff cares who is captain?

If players are worried about that then that is our problem. They're not concentrating on things that actually matter.

Couldn't agree more

The focus on the captancy is just a fools view of the way things should be

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Hamspud should be captain.....
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Just on leadership one thing that stood out in the last 3 minutes from hell was how much we miss Maric the leader in the middle

After Fasalo look got that goal to get them within 5 points there was no centre circle conference to plan what they were going to do or at least try and do.

You see big Ivan do that a lot, call in the mids pre bounce to discuss a strategy

Didn't happen Friday night

That's  why I rate Ivan the leader so highly

Just my take

Agree 100% WP. Noticed this too.
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