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North Supporter/Depression
« on: May 29, 2006, 06:02:16 PM »
CH 10 just reported that the guy who abused Dean Laidley after yesterday's game was found dead early this morning at Frankston train station. They have reported no suspicious circumstances so i assume he has taken his own life.

Obviously this guys had some mental issues if its the case.

It amazes me the number of people who suffer from depression these days.

What are peoples thoughts about it all, do you think its been beaten up or has Depression just emerged with todays busy lifestyles etc?

It wasnt that common say around 10 years ago, but it seems "all the rage" these days.

I know about 4-5 people who have apparently suffered from it and been on medication.

Thoughts please  :-\

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Re: North Supporter/Depression
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2006, 06:09:50 PM »
Condolences to the bloke's family  :(.

Thoughts also for the train driver. Sadly happens all too frequently and all he or she will get is 2 weeks off work.

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Re: North Supporter/Depression
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2006, 06:12:28 PM »
I reckon today's lifestyle has something to do with it. It is also diagnosed a lot better these days. It certainly Bull seems to be a phenomenon of todays society.
Perhaps people just suffered in silence in the 'olden days'. Plus you look at the US, where millions of kids are diagnosed with ADD and treated with Ritalin and the like, and their brains are chemically controlled from an early age.

My opinion on the medication is that I am not so sure how effective it is. I've got a friend who swears by one particular medication, and says the rest are useless. Looks as though some of the available medicines work spot on for some, and do nothing for others.
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Re: North Supporter/Depression
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2006, 06:16:18 PM »
And yes MT, thoughts to the people he left behind, and yes I know a V Line train driver who has been scarred by 3 suicides, and they never forget them, they re-live them at work, day in, day out.

Suicide is a selfish option, mostly for the distress it creates for all the others involved:
The family
workmates
train driver/car driver
coroners office
police
cleaners
and the list goes on
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Re: North Supporter/Depression
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2006, 07:36:38 PM »
Condolences to the bloke's family  :(.

Thoughts also for the train driver. Sadly happens all too frequently and all he or she will get is 2 weeks off work.


Laidley wasn't to know and was entitled to have a go back, although most would have just ignored it.
Yep, poor train driver.  Just going about your job and poo like this happens, leaving the driver another victim  :(

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Re: North Supporter/Depression
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2006, 07:51:54 PM »
I heard on the news drving home around 6.30pm that the bloke had commited suicide and his family had spoken to North's CEO and said that yesterday's situation had not played a part in what had happened.

Also as side issue this morning on Sport927 some bloke phoned up and said the guy Laidley had a go at wasn't the one who had made the comments.
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Re: North Supporter/Depression
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2006, 07:55:36 PM »
Train kills AFL fan after coach argument
May 29, 2006 - 7:19PM

Verbal clashes between AFL coach Dean Laidley and a supporter of the Kangaroos club at a match at Melbourne's Telstra Dome had a tragic aftermath when the man was hit and killed by a train.

Police confirmed the man, aged in his late 30s, was killed near Seaford train station, in Melbourne's south-east, about 1am (AEST) Monday when he was hit by a Frankston-bound train.

Police are not treating the death as suspicious.

Laidley twice had words with the man as he ran through the Telstra Dome crowd to address his players during and after his side's loss to St Kilda.

Kangaroos chief executive Geoff Walsh met with the family of the supporter, later issuing a statement offering the club's condolences.

"I spoke to the family members, who are devastated by the loss of their son and brother, and offered professional support services to help them through this sad time," Walsh said.

"I also passed on our deepest condolences and thoughts of everyone here at the North Melbourne Football Club.

"The family stressed that an incident earlier in the day at the North Melbourne-St Kilda game at Telstra Dome was unrelated to the tragic loss of their son's life.

"This is an intensely private and sensitive matter and the family have asked that the club make no further comment as they deal with the grieving process."

Laidley took exception to the man's comments after the full-time siren, and he had words with the fan despite the attempts of two security guards to hurry the Kangaroos coach on.

Both altercations were captured by TV cameras and replayed later.

In his post-game press conference, Laidley said he had invited the man to come on to the ground to see how much the team's loss had stung his players.

"He said a couple of things during the day and after the game he had another crack, so I just went back and said 'come down, come and have a look at how much we're all actually hurting'," he said.

"But he couldn't answer me, because he was that drunk. Alcohol does funny things.

"That was pretty much it. I just asked him to come down, which I've actually done before."

There was no official evidence that the man, who was holding a glass of beer at the time of the altercation, was intoxicated at the game.

The AFL has the right to fine coaches for bringing the game into disrepute but decided against punishing Laidley for his altercation.

An AFL spokesman said the league had also decided against beefing up security after the altercation.

But the AFL Coaches Association said security needed to be addressed.

"Maybe they need some sort of separate entrance somewhere," said association chief executive Peter Allen, who spoke before news of the man's death became public.

"When you get a situation where members of the public can hang over the fence and abuse coaches and players, we'd like to do something about that.

"It's an issue that we'll take up with the AFL at our next meeting."

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Train-kills-AFL-fan-after-coach-argument/2006/05/29/1148754932775.html
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Re: North Supporter/Depression
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2006, 08:59:56 PM »
Full fu kcen on man :gobdrop

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Wallace urges tighter security (Sportal)
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2006, 09:08:26 PM »
Wallace urges tighter security
4:56:21 PM Tue 30 May, 2006
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Sportal for afl.com.au

Richmond coach Terry Wallace has called for tighter security at all football grounds after Kangaroos coach Dean Laidley's exchange with a spectator at the end of the Kangaroos match against St Kilda on Sunday.

"I think the best solution is to not be put in to that situation. But the situation is that at some grounds, that's not possible. I think it's preferable if that's not the case," Wallace said speaking at his press conference on Tuesday.

With coaches having to walk through the crowds at some grounds, contact with supporters is inevitable. Wallace would like to see some changes made, which could reduce any possible confrontations in the future.

"The MCG at the moment is fantastic for us (coaches) because we walk across the ground and then you're out the back and you have no access and that's great."

"I think it's more difficult for your families and families of players as well. A lot of things do go towards a senior coach (from spectators) and your families are sitting alongside four or five spots along, who perhaps have no idea who they (family) are.

Asked if he's ever reacted to anything that has ever been said to him and Wallace firmly said no.

"I've never responded to anyone. That's not to say you haven't heard them, I sort of put the blinkers on and then just focus on what you need to do.

"From our point of view we're paid professionals, we're in the public eye. We've got to handle ourselves in the right capacity," Wallace said.

"There has been some coaches of absolute senior experience that have been in that position. You don't know your reactions at any point in time. And you don't know how you're pushed," Wallace firmly said.

Wallace offered his support to Laidley after the unfortunate death of a Kangaroos supporter on Sunday following the Kangaroos game.

"I thought we'd give him (Laidley) his space at this time. I think the whole situation should be left alone as the family had suggested they'd like it to be," Wallace said.

"I would know that if I was in a similar position just how difficult that would be and obviously that's the case."

http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=269972