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PuntRdRoar

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Tigers invent Skins Footy
« on: May 31, 2006, 10:13:30 PM »
Anyone see Ploughs plan on WLF or whatever its called. I caught the end bit of it but it seemed to me that he was advocating
that each club get $900,000 of the proposed $ 2million that club want from the new tv rights and that the rest goes into a pool. 16 clubs x 1.1 million = $17.6 million prize pool, since there are 176 games in a home and away season that works out at $100,000 per game. Plough suggests from what I saw...which wasnt very much I may add that each win be worth $100,000 so if a club wins 5 games the club gets $500,000 bonus, if you win 8 games you get $800,000, if your win say 12 games you get $1.2 million and so on. From what I could see he was saying that clubs at the bottom of the ladder wouldnt tank for the cash.

So it seems to me that the PLOUGH has now invented "Skins Footy"

And I reckon its terrific.

What do you guys reckon

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Re: Tigers invent Skins Footy
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2006, 10:25:52 PM »
Yeah, i saw it.  Glad you remembered what it was all about because i was scratching my head lol
Sounds good.  It gives everyone a chance to get something in return even if you finish in the eight or down the bottom.
You get the cash incentive, but if you fail to win games, you get draft picks, which will eventually send you up the ladder and get in the cash spoils.
Sounds like a good one to me.

What Terry kind of said lol

Worries about integrity of the game – people suggesting teams finishing down rather than making finals.
When RFC was finishing 9th – ppl said they would have been better off to bottom out and get the draft picks rather than get nothing in return for the effort of finishing 9th.  Under his plan, we would get the cash bonus for the games won.

Plan:

Equalisation fund for stadium revenue so that the clubs get an equal deal – all clubs – share the cash.

Salary cap for all football department expenses, not just player payments – need to cap the spending on doctors, footy departments – try and create an even playing field by spending a certain amount on off field football expenditure.

Performance based cash incentives:

If you perform on the ground you get the money. 

And what Ramps said how it is divvied up.

Sides down ladder get less money – but in return draft picks – meaning you go up the ladder eventually.  You win games and you go up the ladder and increase your profile by getting the cash.

Say, a round 19 clash with 2 bottom teams – they would be going for the cash rather than the draft picks to try and get something back for a lousy year.  Still gonna get the draft picks, but this is an added incentive to win rather than losing. 

The supporters get something back this way.  There is incentive to win and you get a better gauge of where clubs are at i reckon.

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Wallace's money spinner (The Age)
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2006, 02:11:25 AM »
Wallace's money spinner
Jake Niall
The Age
June 1, 2006

RICHMOND coach Terry Wallace's concern about the integrity of the competition has led him to devise a radical system by which every game of AFL football would carry a significant financial carrot.

Wallace suggested the AFL could use the television-rights money to set up an incentive system in which every game might be worth $100,000 — ensuring that there was less of an incentive for clubs to "bottom out" and get early draft picks.

"I am worried about the integrity of the competition," Wallace said. "I worry about people sort of saying that it's almost a waste of time even finishing in the lower part of the eight, you're better off sort of starting off all over again. I've heard that from key people within the game."

Emphasising he was speaking for himself and not Richmond, he said the $2 million sought by each club could be split, with every club receiving $900,000 and $1.1 million going into a pool to be distributed on the basis of games won.

Wallace mooted the plan during his weekly appearance on Fox Footy's White Line Fever, and last night said the concept, rather than the specifics, was important, but $1.1 million a club would create a total pool of $17.6 million for 176 home-and-away games — $100,000 a game.

He cautioned that the AFL would have to equalise stadium deals and place a cap on football department expenditure before this performance-based incentive system could be introduced.

"Before you could do this … something would need to be done, for a start, with the stadium deals in the competition. At the moment they're all over the shop and there's not an equal playing field," he said.

"We have a salary cap for players, but we don't have a salary cap for footy expenditure. And if you did a ladder in recent years of teams which spend the highest in footy expenditure, those are the sides that are having the most success."

Wallace said it was "ludicrous" that some clubs were able to pay assistant coaches almost the same as other clubs paid senior coaches.

With those equalising measures in place, Wallace said the AFL could then establish a prizemoney system in which every game counted — enhancing the integrity of the competition.

"If you went $1.1 million from each of the teams goes into a pool and each of the teams gets $900,000, that would give you $17.6 million in a pool, there's 176 games, that would mean every game of the year would be worth $100,000. That puts integrity into every single game of the season. Round 19, the 13th side is playing the 15th side, they're playing for $100,000."

Wallace said Richmond had often been "scoffed at" for finishing ninth. "Under this system, finishing ninth, say with 10 or 11 wins, would give them between $1 million and $1.1 million out of that money that was up for grabs."

He observed that the Kangaroos would have benefited enormously from their run of seven consecutive preliminary finals or better in the '90s, averaging perhaps $1.75 million over that period, plus the $900,000 each club would receive.

Wallace said wealthy teams could afford to bottom out more than poorer clubs. "At the moment they can do it and they can weather it with no penance … under my system, they'd be weathering it, but losing another $600,000 or $700,000 as well."

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/05/31/1148956418600.html

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Re: Tigers invent Skins Footy
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2006, 03:47:14 AM »
So if it was really a skins game and it was a draw, does the $100,000 double for next time the teams meet?

And why stop at $100,000 a game, why not $12,500 a quarter and $50,000 for the win.  This means all 4 quarters would be keenly contested.

In regards to $100,000 a win, would teams that are well in front basically shut up shop, and just take the 4 points?  (lets face it, under this scheme, percentage only has a bearing on finals positions).  It could also mean teams could "give up", and Ryan Griffin would get into more hot water.

Therefore $12,500 a quarter and $50,000 a win, would atleast mean sides would push for 4 quarters, not just the result.  This is much more sensible.  (it also means anyone playing Essendon or Carlton could really do a job on them   ;))







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Re: Tigers invent Skins Footy
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2006, 04:07:37 PM »
Smart boy Terry coming up with this just as we're on the rise. Sticks it up the Bombers and Blues too which is always a good thing lol. 11 wins would get you the $2 million asked for anyway so if we regularly play finals within the next 5 years we'll be laughing.
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AFL no to Wallace's plan (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2006, 01:35:30 AM »
AFL no to plan
02 June 2006   
Herald Sun
Mark Stevens

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou has defended the integrity of the competition, responding to Terry Wallace's plan for each game to be worth $100,000 in prizemoney.

"I've never believed the integrity of the game is under threat," Demetriou said.

"I've got great faith in clubs, coaches and players.

"By making an amendment to the priority pick rule this year, we've further enhanced the integrity."

The Richmond coach this week floated the idea of a slice of the broadcast rights funds being used to create a prizemoney system, making every game worth something.

Concerned about talk of clubs tanking to bottom out and pick up early draft picks, Wallace believes the integrity of the game would be improved if prizemoney was on the line each week.

Demetriou said he welcomed Wallace's input.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,19333357%255E19742,00.html