Our next Key Forward

[TigerLand]

Plenty of chat around the need for a Key Forward is a need in our list refresh.

My issue with this is that there are next to no gun key forwards who aren't top 12 picks. The best there is, is
Miocheck
Larkey
Tex
B.Brown

The rest are all top picks
Jack
Lynch
Cameron
Curnow
Naughton
Buddy
McKay
Dixon
Hogan
King x 2
Josh Kennedy (sure retired)

My point is, in replacing Lynch and Jack we have to go free agency or get an absolute wordly. Or we go for a full rebuild and trade in a top 10 pick.

Thoughts on how we get our next Jack, Lynch?

[Dont Argue]

Jack was pick 3 but I get your point

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Gibcus

[Andyy]

Plenty of chat around the need for a Key Forward is a need in our list refresh.

My issue with this is that there are next to no gun key forwards who aren't top 12 picks. The best there is, is
Miocheck
Larkey
Tex
B.Brown

The rest are all top picks
Jack
Lynch
Cameron
Curnow
Naughton
Buddy
McKay
Dixon
Hogan
King x 2
Josh Kennedy (sure retired)

My point is, in replacing Lynch and Jack we have to go free agency or get an absolute wordly. Or we go for a full rebuild and trade in a top 10 pick.

Thoughts on how we get our next Jack, Lynch?

There's plenty of other serviceable ones.

Mitchell Lewis going OK for a dud club IMO. Went about pick 70

They took him and played him and he's come good.

[Tiger Khosh]

Ben king and Larkey (FA) both out of contract end of next season.

[Loui Tufga]

Jack was pick 3 but I get your point

Jack was pick #13 but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good story

[the claw]

Most people would agree there is more risk taking a tall early in the draft than a mid. . They take longer to develop they may come on they may not. We have been reluctant to use early picks on tall fwds we have been reluctant to use any picks and when we have we hedge our bets.

Point is if we are not going to use early picks on genuine key fwds then you need to load up on them in other drafts and play i suppose a numbers game we refuse to do that as well.

Where we are at imo we need to find one or two adequate mature kpf and target them right thru the draft and elsewhere.

We talk about JR and Lynch but look at where they were drafted

Last one player who may be available for lack of opportunity is the crows Himmelberg. Have not had a good look at him to be honest and he has not set the world on fire but he fits a criteria.

We can go the mature route but the odds of getting a gun fwd is small especially now for us being a team in decline.
In many ways we were lucky to Lynch given the gcs situation where its been a revolving door for players at them and gws.

[Broadsword]

Yeah, we were definitely lucky to win 3 premierships.

It honestly astonishes me how successful we've been in the last 10 years given how unforgivably stupid we've been.

Should've won 8.

[JP Tiger]

Samson Ryan.  206cms, but apparently not tall enough to be noticed, poor guy.  Drafted as a forward & 2nd ruck, developing nicely in both roles.  Who knows which way it goes from here, it really depends on other personnel as to where Samson plays. 
Gibcus was a high ND pick who can play as a KPP at either end, but I promise not to notice that we drafted him too.  Then there's Young from our VFL list at 195cms, quietly getting games as a key defender, but no talls are being developed here. 
Then there's Bradtke & Bauer ... so we actually do draft talls & some of them are forwards, but we tend to use our late draft picks & lowest currency in the MSD to do it.  Fairly clever really.  So clever that people just can't see them!   
Who knows how it will all turn out, but whatever becomes of them at least we did a whole lot more than nothing.     

[the claw]

Samson Ryan.  206cms, but apparently not tall enough to be noticed, poor guy.  Drafted as a forward & 2nd ruck, developing nicely in both roles.  Who knows which way it goes from here, it really depends on other personnel as to where Samson plays. 
Gibcus was a high ND pick who can play as a KPP at either end, but I promise not to notice that we drafted him too.  Then there's Young from our VFL list at 195cms, quietly getting games as a key defender, but no talls are being developed here. 
Then there's Bradtke & Bauer ... so we actually do draft talls & some of them are forwards, but we tend to use our late draft picks & lowest currency in the MSD to do it.  Fairly clever really.  So clever that people just can't see them!   
Who knows how it will all turn out, but whatever becomes of them at least we did a whole lot more than nothing.   

Lol i really do love the naivety.
Ryan is a 206cm you guessed it ruckman. But now he is a fwd fair enough delusion must be grand. He  has been played fwd because he was too damn skinny to develop in the ruck and you guessed it NO TALL FWDS TO BE PLAYED IN THE VFL..   hey he is exactly what im talking about we dont need kpF'S  because we have samson Ryan the ruckman . Funny really a typical hedged bet if he doesnt make it as a ruckman we can always call him a fwd.

Young and Gibcus on what planet would you call either a fwd that is golden blinkers right there.

You know what lets stop being clever because we arent if we want a tall fwd then go and actually draft one

Aggh Bauer the so called fwd we play in defense, taken in a mid season draft wow that's a  real investment right there lol. Ditto for Bradtke another big big investment with a rookie pick both taken because there was literally no one else and we just had to be seen to be doing something. Last time i looked  these are the only two Genuine tall fwds we have taken in how long but hey you keep kidding yourself its fun to watch.

I agree by the way we have done more than nothing,  its actually next to nothing. Don't sit there and look like an idiot you know in fact every single person here knows addressing our tall forward situation has been almost ignored.But hey keep kidding yourself.

[the claw]

Yeah, we were definitely lucky to win 3 premierships.

It honestly astonishes me how successful we've been in the last 10 years given how unforgivably stupid we've been.

Should've won 8.

Lol always people deflecting. What does winning three premierships have to do with our lack of interst in taking tall fwds'
Do we win three flags without JR or TL hell no the point that any child can see is clearly we have done little while we have had em.

But hey as i said people do like a good deflection when there is nothing else.

[Broadsword]

Yeah, we were definitely lucky to win 3 premierships.

It honestly astonishes me how successful we've been in the last 10 years given how unforgivably stupid we've been.

Should've won 8.

Lol always people deflecting. What does winning three premierships have to do with our lack of interst in taking tall fwds'
Do we win three flags without JR or TL hell no the point that any child can see is clearly we have done little while we have had em.

But hey as i said people do like a good deflection when there is nothing else.

LOL SHEESH SHEESH FFS FMD LOL SHEESH CHILDREN LOL BLIND FREDDY LOL LOL SHEESH BLIND FREDDY FMD FFS CHILDREN

[FooffooValve]

Yeah, we were definitely lucky to win 3 premierships.

It honestly astonishes me how successful we've been in the last 10 years given how unforgivably stupid we've been.

Should've won 8.

Lol always people deflecting. What does winning three premierships have to do with our lack of interst in taking tall fwds'
Do we win three flags without JR or TL hell no the point that any child can see is clearly we have done little while we have had em.

But hey as i said people do like a good deflection when there is nothing else.

LOL SHEESH SHEESH FFS FMD LOL SHEESH CHILDREN LOL BLIND FREDDY LOL LOL SHEESH BLIND FREDDY FMD FFS CHILDREN

 

[TigerLand]

Gibcus

Not bad this

[TigerLand]

Taking some e.otion out of the replies,

The point I was trying to make is that there are very few elite KPF who were outside the first round. We have a selection on the list but their development into elite AFL standard Coleman medal contention in the future type players has the odds against them. So my question to the list refresh is are we hoping Ryan Bradtke Bauer goes against unlikely history evidence and become an elite forward or are we going to go FA for a gun KPF or would we look to trade into the draft and get a top 10 pick this year or next and get the best KPF in the draft.

I'd love the answers to be Ryan and Gibcus and a rude FA get. I'm not sure though.