Our Obvious Deficiencies

[Jacosh]

Statistical Rankings

  Ranked 4th in Kicks Per Game 
  Ranked 3rd in Handballs Per Game 
  Ranked 2nd in Disposals Per Game 
  Ranked 1st in Marks Per Game 
  Ranked 5th in Points Per Game 
  Ranked 2nd in least Opponent Handballs Per Game 
  Ranked 2nd in least Opponent Disposals Per Game 
  Ranked 4th in Team to Opponent Kicks Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 2nd in Team to Opponent Handballs Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 2nd in Team to Opponent Disposals Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Marks Per Game Diff. 

  Ranked 16th in Tackles Per Game 
  Ranked 15th in Hitouts Per Game 
  Ranked 12th in least Opponent Points Per Game 
  Ranked 12th in least Opponent Hitouts Per Game 
  Ranked 15th in Team to Opponent Tackles Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 15th in Team to Opponent Hitouts Per Game Diff. 


Richmond Tigers Statistical Leaders
 
                 Total                                        Average Per Game
 Total Kicks Jordan McMahon 313           Kicks Per Game Joel Bowden 14.39 
 Total Handballs Shane Tuck 318            Handballs Per Game Shane Tuck 14.45 
 Total Disposals Shane Tuck 547            Disposals Per Game Shane Tuck 24.86 
 Total Marks Matthew Richardson 222     Marks Per Game Matthew Richardson 11.10 
 Total Goals Matthew Richardson 48       Goals Per Game Matthew Richardson 2.40 
 Total Hitouts Troy Simmonds 359          Hitouts Per Game Troy Simmonds 16.32
 

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-richmond-tigers


This really does pinpoint what areas we need to work on, besides our ruck division. Tackles are way down as well. Given these stats we could be a top 4 team if we can lift in these areas.

[Jacosh]

Compared to Geelong

Statistical Rankings
 
  Ranked 3rd in Kicks Per Game 
  Ranked 1st in Handballs Per Game 
  Ranked 1st in Disposals Per Game 
  Ranked 1st in Points Per Game 
  Ranked 2nd in Tackles Per Game 
  Ranked 2nd in Hitouts Per Game 
  Ranked 2nd in least Opponent Kicks Per Game 
  Ranked 4th in least Opponent Disposals Per Game 
  Ranked 5th in least Opponent Marks Per Game 
  Ranked 1st in least Opponent Points Per Game 
  Ranked 4th in least Opponent Hitouts Per Game 
  Ranked 2nd in Team to Opponent Kicks Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Handballs Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Disposals Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 4th in Team to Opponent Marks Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Points Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 3rd in Team to Opponent Hitouts Per Game Diff. 

  Ranked 15th in least Opponent Tackles Per Game 


Geelong Cats Statistical Leaders

             Total                                      Average Per Game
 Total Kicks James Bartel 382            Kicks Per Game James Bartel 15.28 
 Total Handballs Joel Corey 391         Handballs Per Game Joel Corey 15.64 
 Total Disposals Joel Corey 730          Disposals Per Game Joel Corey 29.20 
 Total Marks Cameron Mooney 201     Marks Per Game Cameron Mooney 8.38 
 Total Goals Steve Johnson 53          Goals Per Game Tom Lonergan 2.25 
 Total Hitouts Mark Blake 525            Hitouts Per Game Mark Blake 21.00


http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/th-geelong-cats

 
 

[Beren]

Why Geelong? Hawthorn are the Premiers.

[mightytiges]

  Ranked 16th in Tackles Per Game 
  Ranked 15th in Hitouts Per Game  
  Ranked 15th in Team to Opponent Tackles Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 15th in Team to Opponent Hitouts Per Game Diff. 

This really does pinpoint what areas we need to work on, besides our ruck division. Tackles are way down as well. Given these stats we could be a top 4 team if we can lift in these areas.

Yep in both hitouts (especially to advantage) and tackling we've been down the bottom for years and all of Wallace's tenure. You would hope with young bodies maturing that our tackling pressure starts going up. We need a 200+cm ruckman for our hitout numbers to improve.

[Chuck17]

Why Geelong? Hawthorn are the Premiers.

Hawthorn were better on GF day

Compare the record over two years though and the better side should stand out, ie Geelong.

[Jacosh]

Why Geelong? Hawthorn are the Premiers.

Yea they are, they won that 1 game against Geelong this season.
Looking at the stats though I think Geelong were the better team overall for the seaon therefore still the benchmark.
If thats not the case Hawtorn wouldnt have gone into the GF as severe underdogs.

[tdy]

  Ranked 16th in Tackles Per Game 
  Ranked 15th in Hitouts Per Game  
  Ranked 15th in Team to Opponent Tackles Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 15th in Team to Opponent Hitouts Per Game Diff. 

This really does pinpoint what areas we need to work on, besides our ruck division. Tackles are way down as well. Given these stats we could be a top 4 team if we can lift in these areas.

Yep in both hitouts (especially to advantage) and tackling we've been down the bottom for years and all of Wallace's tenure. You would hope with young bodies maturing that our tackling pressure starts going up. We need a 200+cm ruckman for our hitout numbers to improve.

Hitouts are a hard one to fix overnight, I think wallace and the clubs recruiting has been aimed at fixing the general skill level of players, mid field and mid sized players in particular. 

Ruckmen seem to take until 24 to mature (look at Mark Blake at geelong as a perfect example, last year at 22 he was losing contests so they chose stephen king for the final, this year he was winning contests and he was their better ruckman in the finals and he wont hit his peak until this year when he is age 24 imho).  Given wallace has been there 4 years any ruckmen he recruited is only 22 now, so we are stuck relying on Troy Simmonds (who has been a really good player for richmond given he has had to handle the ruck largely by himself) until pattison gets old enough and bulks up enough and angus graham and dean putt come through too.

pattison recruited 2004 - wallaces first year
graham recruited 2007 
putt recruited 2007 rookie list

So the focus has not been on ruckmen in those early years, notably they also took gourdis last year who got dropped recently.

[tigersalive]

  Ranked 16th in Tackles Per Game 
  Ranked 15th in Hitouts Per Game  
  Ranked 15th in Team to Opponent Tackles Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 15th in Team to Opponent Hitouts Per Game Diff. 

This really does pinpoint what areas we need to work on, besides our ruck division. Tackles are way down as well. Given these stats we could be a top 4 team if we can lift in these areas.

Yep in both hitouts (especially to advantage) and tackling we've been down the bottom for years and all of Wallace's tenure. You would hope with young bodies maturing that our tackling pressure starts going up. We need a 200+cm ruckman for our hitout numbers to improve.

Hitouts are a hard one to fix overnight, I think wallace and the clubs recruiting has been aimed at fixing the general skill level of players, mid field and mid sized players in particular. 

Ruckmen seem to take until 24 to mature (look at Mark Blake at geelong as a perfect example, last year at 22 he was losing contests so they chose stephen king for the final, this year he was winning contests and he was their better ruckman in the finals and he wont hit his peak until this year when he is age 24 imho).  Given wallace has been there 4 years any ruckmen he recruited is only 22 now, so we are stuck relying on Troy Simmonds (who has been a really good player for richmond given he has had to handle the ruck largely by himself) until pattison gets old enough and bulks up enough and angus graham and dean putt come through too.

pattison recruited 2004 - wallaces first year
graham recruited 2007 
putt recruited 2007 rookie list

So the focus has not been on ruckmen in those early years, notably they also took gourdis last year who got dropped recently.

Putt is on the senior list, not the rookie list.

[Beren]

I'd like to see a comparison with a team that is closer to us developmental-wise as well.

It's easy to point out our shortcomings against a top side, that's what we should be aiming at. We all know tha. Let's see where we stand compared with our cohort.

[Jacosh]

I'd like to see a comparison with a team that is closer to us developmental-wise as well.

It's easy to point out our shortcomings against a top side, that's what we should be aiming at. We all know tha. Let's see where we stand compared with our cohort.

You can check out whatever team you like at this link

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ladder

Just click on the team you want to look at and scroll down.

[mightytiges]

Graham was drafted in 2005 btw (pick 5 rookie draft).

Carlton would be closer to our developmental level (maybe a fraction ahead). They had major hitout deficiencies as well which is why they chased after and got Warnock.

High Rankings:
  Ranked 5th in least Opponent Kicks Per Game 
  Ranked 3rd in least Opponent Handballs Per Game 
  Ranked 3rd in least Opponent Disposals Per Game 
  Ranked 2nd in least Opponent Marks Per Game 
  Ranked 5th in least Opponent Tackles Per Game 
  Ranked 5th in Team to Opponent Kicks Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 4th in Team to Opponent Handballs Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 5th in Team to Opponent Disposals Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 3rd in Team to Opponent Marks Per Game Diff. 

Low rankings:
  Ranked 16th in Hitouts Per Game 
  Ranked 13th in least Opponent Points Per Game 
  Ranked 16th in least Opponent Hitouts Per Game 
  Ranked 13th in Team to Opponent Points Per Game Diff. 
  Ranked 16th in Team to Opponent Hitouts Per Game Diff. 

Carlton were 11th in tackles (51.3) compared to our 16th (48.7). Mind you the Hawks and Dogs were equal 12th overall (51.2).