Dustin Martin [merged]

[Francois Jackson]

i said if we let him go for 100k i would be spewing. Thats different to paying him what he wants

apology accepted

cheers

[hyperlite]

Would hate to see him go, but gee he needs to pull his finger out on a regular basis.

There's been a few occasions this year when someone needs to stand up and take the game by the scruff. most went missing today.

Because of the tough nut category that we all put him in, and he would probably raise his hand and say he's in this category too, too many times he's gone missing, has had a stinker, or has under-performed.

Personally i think he's worth throwing money at, but after a below par game today it just shows how important it is to be consistent in order to keep your value.

I hate losing to the blue scum, but if there's any positive out of today, its that dusty hasn't got an argument from the last few games to push his case for more cash.

[Hellenic Tiger]

His best game of the year I thought was the Sydney game but he has been serviceable and got by on reputation and in a winning side in the other without really setting the world on fire. To me the kid needs to sign this contract ASAP for his own good and the good of the footy club. If the rumour abt his manager is true then he needs to tell his manager to do his job and get him over the line at his club of choice which is us and not let his manager worry about the extra 10% his manager is trying to pocket to save his dwindling managerial career.

[daniel33]

Guys you a dreaming if you thing Dusty is worth 500k or 600k what he wants.No more then 400k or 450k for me.How many games does in string together in a row of high quality to demand that money not many at all.If he wants to bleed the club dry well see ya later no one is bigger then the club !!!.

[camboon]

He's a good player not a great players yet - Great players at least compete and never give up.
A great player wouldn't be thrashed by an opponent that didn't play the game until a few years ago -
Id hate to see him go but Richmond cant pay overs.

[WilliamPowell]

From Robbo's Tackle Column today (19/8/2013)
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Dusty's future hangs in the balance
Mark Robinson
•From: Herald Sun
•August 18, 2013 8:35PM

SPOKE TO Ralph Carr recently.

You might not know of him, but he is the manager of the second-most talked about out-of-contract footballer in the competition.

Hawthorn's Lance Franklin is No.1, of course, and Richmond's Dustin Martin is No.2.

Carr is playing hardball with the Tigers, just as he did with Collingwood over Travis Cloke, his other high-profile client.

Carr is unique. He is from the entertainment industry and while football is an emotional business, Carr is not an emotional manager.

He and the Tigers are at logger-heads.

It's safe to say, as the Magpies found out last season, Carr doesn't care if he loses friends.

His job is to attain the best possible deal for his client and his track-record is admirable.

He wasn't keen on talking about the Martin situation, so it's a bit of a guessing game.

Martin is on good money in the final year of his contract, which was negotiated by his former manager Ricky Nixon. It's about $450,000.

The Tigers new offer was for about the same money with incentives, which was understandable seeing as Martin finished 10th in the 2012 club best and fairest, although his 2013 season suggests a top-three finish is not beyond him.

Carr knows that. He believes it is ridiculous that Martin is having a season like he's having and the Tigers don't want to cough up more money than he's presently on which, it has be said, was overs from the outset.

Richmond's issue is that they believe Carr is telling interested people that several clubs have expressed interest in Martin, and one, namely Greater Western Sydney, has a multi-year offer worth about $750,000 per season.
GWS has said no offer exists, and that no offer will be forthcoming.

So, the Tigers believe Carr is inflating the price and the interest.

In the meantime, the standoff continues.

Give or take $20,000, the Tigers might go to $500,000 but Carr wants $600,000 and won't budge.

The further problem is Martin doesn't want to leave Richmond.

He's an interesting young man Dustin Martin.

He is shy, untrustworthy of the media and reliant on a good structures in his life to play good footy.

There have been issues, and the Tigers have worked with him closely to sort them out.

So much so, that the Tigers would be staggered if Martin suddenly announced he was out of there.

They have invested in Martin, and know that Martin wants to invest in them.

If only the contract can be completed.

Either Carr buckles and drops the price, or the Tigers, under new football boss Dan Richardson, buckle and Richmond's pay scale is out of whack in his first season.

The Tigers would like to have you believe that's “take it or leave it”' with Martin, but that won't be the case.

They need Martin as much as Martin needs them.

Carr, meanwhile, plays for keeps. His mantra is: This is what we want and this is what you will pay.

In the end, Martin will decide where and how much.

It will be Richmond, but the “how much” is going to drive people at Richmond bonkers for some time yet.

Don't be surprised if all talks are put off until the end of the season.

From:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-tackle-essendons-super-supplements-saga-cant-distract-from-round-22s-super-saturday/story-fni5ezdm-1226699522934

[smasha]

GWS have said no offer exists because Vlad has rang Carr.

[WA Tiger]

DO NOT stuff this up Richmond!!!!!!

[Penelope]

if Robbo does indeed have inside info here, then the conclusion i come to is that Carr is not the right manager fro dusty.

I heard an interview with Dan Richardson earlier in the year and he bristleed at the statement that he was the man responsible for getting Goddard to Essendon. He said that he did not tell players what they should do, but give them all the info they need to make a decision that is best for them.

It sounds like this carr character just pushes for the highest dollar amount he can get, probably because he then gets a bigger cut himself.

The stupid thing is, even if that is how carr works, his long term interest is ensuring dusty's long term interest, and with dusty in particular that is more than about the value of his next contract. If dusty got a bigger contract elswhere but didnt get the direction and support he clearly needs and goes off the rails, then they both lose.

Maybe someone needs to give kim duthie Carr's phone number.

[WilliamPowell]

GWS have said no offer exists because Vlad has rang Carr.

What are you on about?

[WilliamPowell]

if Robbo does indeed have inside info here, then the conclusion i come to is that Carr is not the right manager fro dusty.

I heard an interview with Dan Richardson earlier in the year and he bristleed at the statement that he was the man responsible for getting Goddard to Essendon. He said that he did not tell players what they should do, but give them all the info they need to make a decision that is best for them.

It sounds like this carr character just pushes for the highest dollar amount he can get, probably because he then gets a bigger cut himself.

The stupid thing is, even if that is how carr works, his long term interest is ensuring dusty's long term interest, and with dusty in particular that is more than about the value of his next contract. If dusty got a bigger contract elswhere but didnt get the direction and support he clearly needs and goes off the rails, then they both lose.

I think Robbo's article is absolutely spot on

al your very first sentence is 100% correct as well.

Have said it before and will say it again & it will be for the final time:

Dusty wants to stay, he doesn't want to leave, the issue here is and has always been his manager.

the end 

[Yeahright]

Have said it before and will say it again & it will be for the final time:

Dusty wants to stay, he doesn't want to leave, the issue here is and has always been his manager.

the end 

[WilliamPowell]

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[pmac21]

feel more like trading him the longer this goes on?

[blaisee]

The manager is the one driving the bus here unfortunately.
Wonder what old man Martin had to say today whilst down at the club.

Lets hope sensible heads prevail, not only for us but for the Dusty.

not too sure the old man is that sensible to be honest