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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2745 on: September 20, 2013, 09:52:49 PM »
Carr reminds me of Dennis Denuto from the castle - NFI !!!
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« Reply #2746 on: September 20, 2013, 10:05:55 PM »
It's the vibe.

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« Reply #2747 on: September 20, 2013, 10:25:50 PM »
at least Dennis knew when he was out his league.
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« Reply #2748 on: September 20, 2013, 10:30:16 PM »
Bit late now, but Dermie on SEN before the game says that the rumor he was hearing is that Richmond are happy to talk with him, but only on their terms. Seems a little to hasty. Just get it DONE tigs!

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« Reply #2749 on: September 21, 2013, 12:51:07 AM »
If he has re-signed IMO it's important we forgive his moment of indecision and accept him back warmly.

Give him every reason to love RFC and play hard for us then resign again later.

I really do hope you mean re-sign (as in stayng) not resign (as in leaving)  ;D

Gotta love the good old hyphen.

Almost as misused as the apostrophe.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2750 on: September 21, 2013, 05:23:21 AM »

LMAO. the whole thing is a circus, a circus that has only clowns

And a flying toupee

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« Reply #2751 on: September 21, 2013, 09:10:47 AM »
Bit late now, but Dermie on SEN before the game says that the rumor he was hearing is that Richmond are happy to talk with him, but only on their terms. Seems a little to hasty. Just get it DONE tigs!

the club is in full control. you shouldnt panick. the club cannot and will not allow the tail to wag the dog. for 30 years players and coteries have run the asylum at Punt Road. those days are over.

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« Reply #2752 on: September 21, 2013, 09:19:44 AM »
Regardless of any games being played, who's trying who out, the club must secure this player, we simply can't afford for him to leave and we sure as hell can't replace his talent!!
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Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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« Reply #2753 on: September 21, 2013, 09:23:20 AM »
Regardless of any games being played, who's trying who out, the club must secure this player, we simply can't afford for him to leave and we sure as hell can't replace his talent!!

No excuses for not signing him

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« Reply #2754 on: September 21, 2013, 09:27:41 AM »
Regardless of any games being played, who's trying who out, the club must secure this player, we simply can't afford for him to leave and we sure as hell can't replace his talent!!

No excuses for not signing him

Yeah well there's not!
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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« Reply #2755 on: September 21, 2013, 09:30:48 AM »
yep, just give him what he wants and be grateful we have him. why change the formula that has been so successful for the last 30 years?

anyone that knows anything, knows that the individual is more important than the team.
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« Reply #2756 on: September 21, 2013, 09:37:39 AM »
Well for how many years have we overpaid players to keep them? Bloody every year, every year we have overpaid crap players, absolute crap players, now we have a star, possibly a Brownlow medalist and we want to draw a line in the sand now.... Honestly. Perhaps if the line was drawn with players like Nathan Brown, Darren Gasper, Sanchez and the like there would be a president to follow. To start now with this player is ludicrous, pay him the extra $100,000 and be done with it.
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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« Reply #2757 on: September 21, 2013, 09:58:33 AM »
Well for how many years have we overpaid players to keep them? Bloody every year, every year we have overpaid crap players, absolute crap players, now we have a star, possibly a Brownlow medalist and we want to draw a line in the sand now.... Honestly. Perhaps if the line was drawn with players like Nathan Brown, Darren Gasper, Sanchez and the like there would be a president to follow. To start now with this player is ludicrous, pay him the extra $100,000 and be done with it.

Youve lost the plot WA  :gotigers

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2758 on: September 21, 2013, 09:59:47 AM »
Well for how many years have we overpaid players to keep them? Bloody every year, every year we have overpaid crap players, absolute crap players, now we have a star, possibly a Brownlow medalist and we want to draw a line in the sand now.... Honestly. Perhaps if the line was drawn with players like Nathan Brown, Darren Gasper, Sanchez and the like there would be a president to follow. To start now with this player is ludicrous, pay him the extra $100,000 and be done with it.

Youve lost the plot WA  :gotigers

Why????
DIMMA - You will be held ACCOUNTABLE...

“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2759 on: September 21, 2013, 10:03:46 AM »
Martin wants to stay a Tiger
Date:September 21, 2013
Caroline Wilson
Chief Football Writer for The Age

The disgraceful handling of troubled young footballer Dustin Martin reached a new low point on Thursday when the bewildered-looking 22-year-old was led around a football club he didn't really want to join.

And a club that, upon meeting Martin and upon brief reflection, came to the conclusion it did not really want him. Like Melbourne before it, Greater Western Sydney has enough of a job on its hands without taking on a high-maintenance player with social issues when what it craves is on-field leadership.

Martin clearly wants to remain at Richmond, which has been as good as home to him since he was drafted as a wayward but prodigiously talented 18-year-old and which has put in place a series of mentors and minders for him and offered him a two-year contract worth about $1million. Internally, both coach and captain are asking him to stay. Externally, either Martin's manager Ralph Carr or his father Shane must cut their losses and make it happen. While life in many ways would be significantly less stressful for the Tigers without Martin, he remains theirs and their problem. This columnist now seriously questions whether he is worth the trouble and if Martin does return to Tigerland with his tail between his legs it would serve everyone in his camp right if the offer is reduced.

Further, the AFL Players Association's agents board should make a point of analysing this debacle as a test case and seriously question Carr's accreditation. He has handled this so unprofessionally and should have realised how much potential harm he could cause his client.

Next week the explosive young star should finish in the top five in the club best and fairest. If only he had the strength he demonstrates on the MCG and took a stand on his own as Reece Conca did this week and put pen to paper without waiting for his manager to get to town.

Conca has sacrificed significant money, which Fremantle had placed on the table to stay at Richmond. No one yet has put their hand up for Martin, and that GWS has chosen not to pursue him despite the difficulty that club has had luring players, shows how concerned it must be about his issues.

When Martin turned up so dishevelled he was told to leave the track in January this season, the concerned and frustrated Tigers went to AFL medicos and asked for the player to be target-tested for illegal drugs. That Martin was able to have the season he did after his problematic off-season speaks volumes for the work put into him by Richmond.

And yet Carr continued to claim all year there were offers aplenty for Martin. Richmond called his bluff in what appeared a risky but ultimately necessary stand. It seems true that Martin was being shopped around by his manager Carr because of an undertaking given to Martin's father and yet no offer has yet been tabled. Martin appears to have begun to lose his way late in the season when his management attempted to bring the contract issues to a head on the day Richmond lost to Carlton in round 20.

Martin had a relatively frank conversation with GWS bosses, in which he acknowledged he had some work to do to clean up his reputation. That seems likely to be Richmond's job now and a change of management wouldn't hurt either.

Some intriguing revelations came to light during what can only be described as a cynical tyre-kicking exercise orchestrated by Carr and recorded by media from the time on Thursday morning that the young footballer arrived at Melbourne Airport.

When asked by the Giants about whom he looked to for advice and mentoring, Martin, in front of Carr, put forward the Richmond Football Club and key individuals within that organisation. How embarrassed Carr must have felt.

During the day Martin was contacted by coach Damien Hardwick and received text messages from his captain Trent Cotchin. He briefly spoke on Friday with outgoing president Gary March, with whom he remains close. Both Cotchin and Hardwick reassured Martin the club still regarded him as a Tiger and wanted him to stay.

Which must say something for how Richmond feels about him. But should Martin return - as now seems probable - to a club he never really left, he has some work to do to win back its trust and that of his teammates.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/martin-wants-to-stay-a-tiger-20130920-2u42p.html#ixzz2fTs0h3iU

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