PSD pick

[mightytiges]

Apart from Gas who at least had an AFL career albeit overpaid after 2001 thanks to Mark Brayshaw, the rest you would have missed if you blinked. Wigney was good in the first 9 games of 95 but then found his dudness level again. The birdman sole memorable contribution was a 60m bomb for a goal after the half time siren in 98 against the bombers. The rest did bugger all.

Are you forgetting the best hip and shoulder from a player in black/yellow for the last 20 years that made BBB Barry Hall go snap?

Mark McQueen.....LMAO @ Picking him up about 3 seperate times in the draft.

  and we picked McQueen up those 3 times over a 5-6 year period 90, 92 and 95. Took us that long to realise he couldn't play footy 

Best hip and shoulder in the last 20 years goes to Scotty Turner   

[JohnF]

Are you forgetting the best hip and shoulder from a player in black/yellow for the last 20 years that made BBB Barry Hall go snap?

Mark McQueen.....LMAO @ Picking him up about 3 seperate times in the draft.

lmfaoooooo@our lax three strikes and you're out policy. stuff we have made some big blues.

[mightytiges]

The Pre-Season Draft is quickly turning into the Pre-Season Duds with the Lions starting to sign up their remaining out of contract players.

All that remains is McGough, McKee, Knobel, Mark Graham, Barlow and Porter  . Zantuck will probably end up the best of the lot  .

Once again the papers have us linked to Graham. Please NO! 

Not a good year to have the first pick  .

[Fwoy3]

The Pre-Season Draft is quickly turning into the Pre-Season Duds with the Lions starting to sign up their remaining out of contract players.

All that remains is McGough, McKee, Knobel, Mark Graham, Barlow and Porter  . Zantuck will probably end up the best of the lot  .

Once again the papers have us linked to Graham. Please NO! 

Not a good year to have the first pick  .

Do you think Livingstone may be worth a punt on a one year deal? See if a new environment and Terry can get him back on track...

[11bowden11]

Rumours have it that Clint Bizzel, although still holidaying in the staes, is unhappy (again) with his latest offer from the Dees. Perhaps he would be an interesting investment to help with the development of a jackson/schultz. Anything would be better than a Mark Graham!!! Looks like Miller is keeping this one quiet ... maybe he is onto somethin we havent contemplated yet!?!?!?!?

P.s PLEASE NO MCKEE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

[wrennyboy]

Rumour has it that blake caracella is going to nominate for the pre season draft. Unhappy with the lions offer as they had to retain a few players. So this makes him and keating available. WHo would you take?

[WilliamPowell]

Rumour has it that blake caracella is going to nominate for the pre season draft. Unhappy with the lions offer as they had to retain a few players. So this makes him and keating available. WHo would you take?

Neither TOO OLD the both of them

Rumours have it that Clint Bizzel, although still holidaying in the staes, is unhappy (again) with his latest offer from the Dees. Perhaps he would be an interesting investment to help with the development of a jackson/schultz. Anything would be better than a Mark Graham!!! Looks like Miller is keeping this one quiet ... maybe he is onto somethin we havent contemplated yet!?!?!?!?

Bizzell - NO THANKS - I don't think we need someone like him to develop Jackson & Schulz in the ability of have shocking foot disposal when under pressure. Coupled with the fact that the defensive side of Bizzell's game is practically none existent I would be steering way clear

PS: Welcome to OER 11bowden11

[mightytiges]

Rumour has it that blake caracella is going to nominate for the pre season draft. Unhappy with the lions offer as they had to retain a few players. So this makes him and keating available. WHo would you take?

Like WP I would pass on both. Caracella reminds me of a better version of Houlihan. Has the skills but can't win his own ball. Just on Caracella - unlike Frawley who put Blumfield straight into our "best" 22, Matthews made Caracella earn his spot which he never really has being used as a off the bench fringe type up there.

As for Keating - too old and too injury prone for our needs. He's made a name for himself at Brisbane of missing most of the home and away season each year only to come back around finals time and be a major player in the Lions 3 flags. We need a ruckman who will be fit and available for most of the year given Stafford is nearing the end of his career and experiences his own injury (and suspension  ) woes. 

[mightytiges]

Do you think Livingstone may be worth a punt on a one year deal? See if a new environment and Terry can get him back on track...

From some Blues supporters I know they reckon he is up there with Fiora as a first round draftee. 32 games in 4 years isn't much of a return.

[JohnF]

lmfaoooooO@the best player available coming from the Diamond Valley 3rds.

Let's just give it a pass.

[11bowden11]

U GUYS ARE KIDDING RIGHT!?!?!? Are you trying to say that we should pass on a no.1 PSD pick?? man o man......  yes we are adopting a youth policy, BUT these guys are not going anywhere if they dont have quality senior players helping with development. So we shouldnt pick up a 27yr - no that old - what is he a 3 time premiership player who sitting on a flank will kick us an extra maybe 25-30 goals a season?? after all we are now aiming for 16 a game! Its ok to keep players like Morrison, Hilton (although injured), chaffey who are not doin anything but playin cr*p footy and takin up space for youngsters ... but we wont pick up a PROVEN quality player who would help help enormously with the cubs.Yes blumfield was a mistake but that was a good gambe at the time 0- it was just unfortunate he was so injured. If we do make it into the finals in a cpl of years itll be the Johnson and caracellas who have been there and done it they r goin to get us through...... i just think we would be crazy to not pick up someone because we need youth. We will get the youth via the draft but this draft is so we can gain one more valuable senior player - its the entire point! i think we need to just open our eyes and think logically about the development and welfare of our17,18,19 and even 20 yr olds.

[11bowden11]

U GUYS ARE KIDDING RIGHT!?!?!? Are you trying to say that we should pass on a no.1 PSD pick?? man o man......  yes we are adopting a youth policy, BUT these guys are not going anywhere if they dont have quality senior players helping with development. So we shouldnt pick up a 27yr - no that old - what is he a 3 time premiership player who sitting on a flank will kick us an extra maybe 25-30 goals a season?? after all we are now aiming for 16 a game! Its ok to keep players like Morrison, Hilton (although injured), chaffey who are not doin anything but playin cr*p footy and takin up space for youngsters ... but we wont pick up a PROVEN quality player who would help help enormously with the cubs.Yes blumfield was a mistake but that was a good gambe at the time 0- it was just unfortunate he was so injured. If we do make it into the finals in a cpl of years itll be the Johnson and caracellas who have been there and done it they r goin to get us through...... i just think we would be crazy to not pick up someone because we need youth. We will get the youth via the draft but this draft is so we can gain one more valuable senior player - its the entire point! i think we need to just open our eyes and think logically about the development and welfare of our17,18,19 and even 20 yr olds.

[Fishfinger]

We will get the youth via the draft but this draft is so we can gain one more valuable senior player

I agree we should take the best in the PSD. I favour Bizzell if available. To not use pick 1 would be a waste. (Is looking pretty light on though )
I'd go further and say we should use 2 PSD picks. We need a ruckman who is actually a ruckman ready to play in the ruck. For me it's Porter.
Same system as National Draft, best available and then what's needed.

Mentioning Hilton, Morrison and Chaffey is pointless in your argument. They are all contracted. To make the call that anyone thinks it's ok to keep all of them is wrong.

[11bowden11]

Im just stating a response to the view that we shouldnt draft these "older" players cause they are just taking the spots of the yougsters. What im sayin is that - is it ok to keep playin these kinda players (hilton,chaffey etc) and refuse to pick up a caracella or whoever? Its good to see that i have someone agreein with me by sayin we shouldnt waste our PSD pick 1!! although i think we will struggle to get much out of it!

[mightytiges]

U GUYS ARE KIDDING RIGHT!?!?!? Are you trying to say that we should pass on a no.1 PSD pick?? man o man......  yes we are adopting a youth policy, BUT these guys are not going anywhere if they dont have quality senior players helping with development. So we shouldnt pick up a 27yr - no that old - what is he a 3 time premiership player who sitting on a flank will kick us an extra maybe 25-30 goals a season?? after all we are now aiming for 16 a game! Its ok to keep players like Morrison, Hilton (although injured), chaffey who are not doin anything but playin cr*p footy and takin up space for youngsters ... but we wont pick up a PROVEN quality player who would help help enormously with the cubs.Yes blumfield was a mistake but that was a good gambe at the time 0- it was just unfortunate he was so injured. If we do make it into the finals in a cpl of years itll be the Johnson and caracellas who have been there and done it they r goin to get us through...... i just think we would be crazy to not pick up someone because we need youth. We will get the youth via the draft but this draft is so we can gain one more valuable senior player - its the entire point! i think we need to just open our eyes and think logically about the development and welfare of our17,18,19 and even 20 yr olds.

I agree 11bowden11 with your point that we need to protect our youngsters from being thrown to the wolves and I'm all for using our PSD pick on a quality senior player who will help us in that regard BUT the keyword there is quality senior player. Just because a bloke's played in a premiership doesn't means he'll be a walkup start even in our line-up just as we found out with Marsh, Blumfield and Sampson  . Remember at Richmond they'll be asked to play a more important and influential role than at the top side they came from where they are made to look better by feeding off superstars. We don't need any more blokes who'll end up spending most of their time at Coburg. That's not going to help the development and welfare of our young kids. As FF pointed out the likes of Hilton and Chaffey only survived because they were still contracted  .

Anyway we will be picking up at least one ruckman through necessity just as a backup. It all depends whether that's late in the National draft or with our PSD pick.