PSD pick

[Rodgerramjet]

U GUYS ARE KIDDING RIGHT!?!?!? Are you trying to say that we should pass on a no.1 PSD pick?? man o man......  yes we are adopting a youth policy, BUT these guys are not going anywhere if they dont have quality senior players helping with development. So we shouldnt pick up a 27yr - no that old - what is he a 3 time premiership player who sitting on a flank will kick us an extra maybe 25-30 goals a season?? after all we are now aiming for 16 a game! Its ok to keep players like Morrison, Hilton (although injured), chaffey who are not doin anything but playin cr*p footy and takin up space for youngsters ... but we wont pick up a PROVEN quality player who would help help enormously with the cubs.Yes blumfield was a mistake but that was a good gambe at the time 0- it was just unfortunate he was so injured. If we do make it into the finals in a cpl of years itll be the Johnson and caracellas who have been there and done it they r goin to get us through...... i just think we would be crazy to not pick up someone because we need youth. We will get the youth via the draft but this draft is so we can gain one more valuable senior player - its the entire point! i think we need to just open our eyes and think logically about the development and welfare of our17,18,19 and even 20 yr olds.

I agree 11bowden11 with your point that we need to protect our youngsters from being thrown to the wolves and I'm all for using our PSD pick on a quality senior player who will help us in that regard BUT the keyword there is quality senior player. Just because a bloke's played in a premiership doesn't means he'll be a walkup start even in our line-up just as we found out with Marsh, Blumfield and Sampson  . Remember at Richmond they'll be asked to play a more important and influential role than at the top side they came from where they are made to look better by feeding off superstars. We don't need any more blokes who'll end up spending most of their time at Coburg. That's not going to help the development and welfare of our young kids. As FF pointed out the likes of Hilton and Chaffey only survived because they were still contracted  .

Anyway we will be picking up at least one ruckman through necessity just as a backup. It all depends whether that's late in the National draft or with our PSD pick.

Spot on MT 

[11bowden11]

well lets hope this ruckman is as good as marshy was hey! well if you think Blake Caracella cant get a game for the 16th team in the competition then i dont know who we are planning on picking up. The guy has just played in another grandfinal - he cant be that bad. Surely we can see that he might JUST MIGHT ad another string to TW bow...... I just hope we realise we are not going to pick up a nick stevens or Jade Rawlings...

[Rodgerramjet]

I really hope that the club doesn't pick up a player in the PSD just for the sake of it or just because we have got the first pick, IMO there is no quality in this PSD of any real note, so if they are going to pick some I'd like to see them picking someone who they know will be able to play the exact roll they are looking for, If that's Caracella then so be it, if that's McKee then so be it also, but I personally don't rate any of them as genuine stand out players or team inspiring players, in fact they need those types around them in order to make them look more accountable.

[mightytiges]

I really hope that the club doesn't pick up a player in the PSD just for the sake of it or just because we have got the first pick, IMO there is no quality in this PSD of any real note, so if they are going to pick some I'd like to see them picking someone who they know will be able to play the exact roll they are looking for, If that's Caracella then so be it, if that's McKee then so be it also, but I personally don't rate any of them as genuine stand out players or team inspiring players, in fact they need those types around them in order to make them look more accountable.

Well said RR.

Outside wingman and flanker cameo types  need others to feed them the footy. They struggle at winning their own footy. That's why they can be so damaging especially near the goals in top sides on their day coming off the bench yet consistently go missing in poor sides. I have no qualms over Caracella when he has the ball. He's a very skillful player and his skill level would be by far the best of those who'll potentially end up in the PSD. However if he came to Richmond who's going to feed out the footy to him? That's my concern over him. 

[mightytiges]

well lets hope this ruckman is as good as marshy was hey!

I'm not happy about this either but we need another ruckman. Blame Frawley for decimating our spine and talls on our list  .

I just hope we realise we are not going to pick up a nick stevens or Jade Rawlings...

You're absolutely right 11B11 but that's why some of us are concerned about who to pick up and whether they are worth it. The PSD looks very weak this year sadly  .

[Fishfinger]

I agree with your points RR & MT, but PSD pick 1 is a gift for being cr@p and should be utilised. It belies my pet saying that "you don't get anything for nothing".

If Caracella is the best I reckon take him. He might need someone to get the ball to him but at least once he's got it he has good skills, something that is sadly lacking in the team at the moment and identified by TW as an area we need heaps of improvement in.

Once again I'll mention Bizzell. I rate this bloke, and I think it's no coincidence that Melbourne fell away when he was injured. I can't see him not coming to terms with them but I'm itching for him to enter the draft.

[JohnF]

Everyone in the PSD is either no good, only appear good when in a good side, or won't be good by the time we are in contention to win a flag.

I'd rather take a late pick in the national draft with the remote chance of discovering a ten year player.   

[Fishfinger]

That's a sound theory John. The only thing is the team has to improve and be competitive in the meantime. It can't be all develop, develop. There has to be some balance.
All of our great sides in the 70's, and in 1980, had a lot of talented youth plus skilled older players. Several of these skilled older players such as Sproule, Walsh, Andrews, Thorpe, McGhie, Malthouse, Rowlings and Welsh were mature imports from other clubs. Some were at the end of their careers when recruited but it didn't stop them being valuable to the team while the next tier of youngsters were being developed.

[JohnF]

That's true FF, but most of those players were decent players. But Knobel? Graham? Caracella? Might as well have kept Ben Marsh, Royce Vardy and Justin Blumfield. They are just as hack-worthy as the potential PSD nominees. 

[WilliamPowell]

I agree with your points RR & MT, but PSD pick 1 is a gift for being cr@p and should be utilised. It belies my pet saying that "you don't get anything for nothing".

I reckon it will cost us because the majority of blokes in the PSD can name their own price and I don't want to draft someone who's lefdt their previous Club for financial reasons. Look at Knobel he's walked on St Kilda because of thier "offer", Caracella seems to be the same. We managed to get rid of one mercenary in the trade period we don't want or need a replacement.

If Caracella is the best I reckon take him. He might need someone to get the ball to him but at least once he's got it he has good skills, something that is sadly lacking in the team at the moment and identified by TW as an area we need heaps of improvement in.

I honestly don't think we will be able to afford him. I agree FF once he has the ball his skills are very good but it is his ability to get the ball (as MT has highlighted) that concerns me.

I'd pass.

Once again I'll mention Bizzell. I rate this bloke, and I think it's no coincidence that Melbourne fell away when he was injured. I can't see him not coming to terms with them but I'm itching for him to enter the draft.

I don't rate him that highly FF but I agree he'll stay with the Demons.

I think it is great that we have first pick in the PSD draft but we need to take a player that is going to be of benefit to Richmond not take a player simply because we have pick 1.

If the belief is that we are not going to get the best player available that fits into what the Club needs then I would have no problem with them taking another kid in the National Draft rather than some bloke who's been de-listed and would probably spend more than 50% at Coburg. If you take some re-cycled bloke in the PSD you want them playing at least 18-22 games

[11bowden11]

How come everyone seems really negative about picking up a recycled player?? at least TW and GM are not goin to be persuaded by some dipsh*t aka Fr#wley into picking up rubbish! lets get on board with them and encourage a good decision here. Recycled players are not always that bad - look at teague from carlton - he was a hack who had no speed nor skills - won Carltons BnF = not a bad pick up! lets put faith in TW's decision making and u neva know we could end up with wat may seem as a bargain! Dont be suprised if Miller is conjuring up some big name - i think notting is still uncontracted.

[Ox]

I guess picking up such player(s) is not unlike death and taxes
and like death and taxes,we should put it off to the last possible minute

[JohnF]

I guess picking up such player(s) is not unlike death and taxes
and like death and taxes,we should put it off to the last possible minute

lmfaooooo@some Richmond supporters being eager to die.

[mightytiges]

How come everyone seems really negative about picking up a recycled player??

Probably more cautious and a touch skeptical 11B11 rather than being negative. After 20+ years of watching poor recruiting decisions that does that to ya  . We've become pseudo-experts at spotting duds  .

By November 12 we'll have a better idea of who's available in the PSD. Hopefully someone may pop up from left field.







 

[11bowden11]

Can i just say i think u all r awesome! Its great visualising other TRUE - PASSIONATE -  REAL supporters!! There are richmond fans and richmond supporters and you guys are all definently the latter. Its great we are all striving for the one thing and that is success............. just thought id let u know how proud it is to be a richmond man wen u enter forums like this!
Well Done Everybody! 
Yours sincerely
11bowden11