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Re: Melbourne Cup - who are you tipping?
« Reply #135 on: November 05, 2014, 10:38:15 PM »
Not making any sort of character judgment on you but I think what you do is absolutely disgusting and barbaric.

I'm so lucky you didn't go ahead and make a character judgment LOL.

Ignorance is bliss.

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Re: Melbourne Cup - who are you tipping?
« Reply #136 on: November 05, 2014, 10:44:50 PM »
I could have resorted to name calling but I don't know you, but I just don't like or find what you do as acceptable. Nothing to do with ignorance,  I don't agree with any sort of exploitation of animals. Put it this way, I don't even eat them.

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Re: Melbourne Cup - who are you tipping?
« Reply #137 on: November 05, 2014, 10:58:58 PM »
I will believe you the day I see a horse in the wild with a midget on its back in a stupid outfit flogging it. Like I said, if that's what you're into then fine,  just don't pretend to be an animal person. We animal persons don't favour any sort of exploitation of them what so ever (with the exception of the Romans throwing christians to lions as entertainment). Not making any sort of character judgment on you but I think what you do is absolutely disgusting and barbaric. At least these horses are better off dead than just being pushed and tortured as a pay cheque for their owners. May as well just legalise dog fighting too because that is what terriers were bred to do.

Horses have been in the top 3 most reliable modes of transport in the history of the human race so it's not hard to see why people enjoy horse racing as a sport. Times have moved on though with transport and Australian racing needs to move on as well. Put the whips away and let them run on their merits. The rules need to change about easing mounts too. How many times have jockeys been fined or suspended for easing off on a favorite when they thought something might have been amiss-or was someone in their pocket?
Gambling of course needs a massive overhaul and needs to be re-regulated again. The privatisation of the TAB has been a disaster for the integrity of the sport.
While they can't speak for themselves, I think Damo has a point that some of the animals enjoy the racing just as some humans think they are born to race.
I have had arms length involvement with trainers of both dogs and trotters in a previous job. It's like any industry, there are good and bad eggs, the bigger corporate organisations are the most brutal, however most trainers that I have met are doing it for a hobby, most of them have day job and have no interest in 'flogging' or 'torturing' their animals in any sort of 'barbaric' manner because winning the Hamilton Cup for $6k isn't going to change their lives, except for bragging rights at the local pub/footy/cricket club.

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Re: Melbourne Cup - who are you tipping?
« Reply #138 on: November 05, 2014, 10:59:27 PM »
I could have resorted to name calling but I don't know you, but I just don't like or find what you do as acceptable. Nothing to do with ignorance,  I don't agree with any sort of exploitation of animals. Put it this way, I don't even eat them.

Good on you. You have your beliefs and stick to it.

But you did say you weren't going to make a character judgement against me and preceded to do EXACTLY that.

How dare you say what I do is completely disgusting and barbaric.

My dogs live a better life than any pet you have, whether it be a maltese on the couch or german shepherd in the backyard. And if you dispute that, I'll PM you my address. You can come here and give me a face to face apology after seeing the way they are treated.

I've got 4 retired dogs here and 2 pups that have a 3 acre paddock, dams and huge trees. They run and swim and chill out all day. Tipping yours don't get that.

And I'll tell you that my 6yo dog would love nothing more than to go to the races tomorrow. But as a retired pet he obviously doesn't get that option now.

Disgusting and barbaric, how dare you.

Ask the owner and founder of Greyt Companions (they are on facebook) if Damo is disgusting and barbaric. They are one of the prominent re-homers of greyhounds in Victoria.






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Re: Melbourne Cup - who are you tipping?
« Reply #139 on: November 06, 2014, 01:19:00 AM »
Know someone who had a dog who was a show dog (not entirely the same thing but still used for show) and once he was forced into retirement by the owner he changed and was diagnosed with depression. Was never the same dog again. Have your beliefs about what you think is right and wrong and stick by them, but no one can pretend to know how the animal feels towards what they are doing because just like people some enjoy it and some don't.

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Re: Melbourne Cup - who are you tipping?
« Reply #140 on: November 06, 2014, 10:33:55 AM »
I could have resorted to name calling but I don't know you, but I just don't like or find what you do as acceptable. Nothing to do with ignorance,  I don't agree with any sort of exploitation of animals. Put it this way, I don't even eat them.

It's pretty funny people are crying about race horses. Given the treatment of mass produced animals for eating.

The laws Changed recently - its illegal to video footage a chicken farm Lol

http://time2transcend.wordpress.com/2014/07/01/australian-legislators-aim-to-gag-animal-protection-activists/

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bushtelegraph/the-battle-over-animal-welfare-and-ag-gag-laws/5612314

I wonder why.

Where does chicken come from mummy?
The supermarket darling.

Peter singer (for Monash now hHarvard Ithink) wrote a good book on  this general topic  "practical ethics". Preference utilitarianism is logically pretty hard to disagree with.
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Re: Melbourne Cup - who are you tipping?
« Reply #141 on: November 06, 2014, 11:00:53 AM »
Humans drop dead from heart attacks every day exercising FMD.
I love animals but what a freakin carry on.

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« Reply #142 on: November 03, 2015, 04:53:12 AM »
What is everyone backing today?

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Re: Melbourne Cup
« Reply #143 on: November 03, 2015, 07:42:07 AM »
My tip...

Save your money.

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Yeah we're already going to vote for him mate, you don't need to keep selling it.....

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Re: Melbourne Cup
« Reply #144 on: November 03, 2015, 09:02:57 AM »
Go hug a tree 65 this is about the big race pal.

My tip . Trip to Paris or Preferement. Really is a difficult race to predict but rarely do you see a complete outsider win

Red Cadeaux will  be the punters favourite.
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Re: Melbourne Cup
« Reply #145 on: November 03, 2015, 09:59:58 AM »
As I am working today, have to confess i really don't care  ;D
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Re: Melbourne Cup
« Reply #146 on: November 03, 2015, 02:44:30 PM »
It's been a spring carnival of favourites winning so I backed Fame Game.

As I am working today, have to confess i really don't care  ;D
The race that stops the nation  ;D.
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Re: Melbourne Cup
« Reply #147 on: November 03, 2015, 03:34:42 PM »
It's been a spring carnival of favourites winning
LOL so the 100/1 shot wins :lol

19. Prince of Penzance
8. Max Dynamite
2. Criterion

First female jockey (Michelle Payne) to win the Cup too.



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Re: Melbourne Cup
« Reply #148 on: November 03, 2015, 03:52:35 PM »
Hope the Big Red, that's Red Cadeaux is going to be ok

 
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Re: Melbourne Cup
« Reply #149 on: November 03, 2015, 03:58:28 PM »
Hope the Big Red, that's Red Cadeaux is going to be ok
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