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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #270 on: February 13, 2010, 10:19:51 PM »
Martin plays with the poise of a 200 gamer!

He also shows up a lot of his team mates for the lazy slobs that they are. I love the way that as soon as he disposes the ball, he instantly starts running hard to make himself a target for the next possession.

I almost feel like apologising to him about the rest of the team.

good call chiko

its embarassing and shows why we aren't an afl standard footy team, an 18 y/o fresh out of junior footy does the basic fundamentals of footy better than "players" who have been in the afl system several yrs and more  :-[

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #271 on: February 13, 2010, 10:21:28 PM »
Hey, we played terrible and Hawthorn played great but with the players out that we had in such a green team i don't think we could've done much better! They were nearly full strength! Its disappointing but it is NAB cup after all!

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #272 on: February 13, 2010, 10:22:12 PM »
l'm happy with that hitout
seen some improvements in players
seen some good futures starting
also can see Newman not at Tigerland next year

did u see next weeks tattslotto numbers as well? Please let us know if you did!

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #273 on: February 13, 2010, 10:22:42 PM »
we started to play well in the last dont ya think?? :pray

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« Reply #274 on: February 13, 2010, 10:25:20 PM »
we started to play well in the last dont ya think?? :pray

When Hawthorn took their foot off the pedal and they applied less pressure on us. ::)

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #275 on: February 13, 2010, 10:26:16 PM »
we started to play well in the last dont ya think?? :pray

hawks switched off, thats all that happened

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #276 on: February 13, 2010, 10:32:11 PM »


It's not Dimma's fault we have a crap 2nd tier Wayne. Appreciate your comment but at least this further exposes that crap 2nd tier in match conditions which Dimma would only be acutely aware about and should be planning to rectify it at seasons end. You can't delist everybody. :thumbsup



Do we even have a first tier?

The players are too timid, except for the newbies. Going by comments made by Deledio - ''It's a fresh feeling. Everyone's excited and I've noticed a difference in meetings. It's not dominated by more experienced players. Younger players feel like they can say something and speak up'', I think it's going to take a while for the players to get some confidence up.

Hodge, Mitchell, Franklin and Roughead all play a game style that screams 'f**k you, i'm a champion".  
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #277 on: February 13, 2010, 10:54:35 PM »
I think a Bex powder and a good lie down is needed by some.

It was a NAB Cup game, it was our first opportunity to put the new game plan and attitude into practice, it would have been one of the youngest ever squads to represent a VFL/AFL team, we played a premiership team with a serious point to prove, we didn't lie down, we showed a lot more pressure on the ball carrier across the ground, we didn't 'get' the new umpiring interpretations, we have 40 days and 2 more games to learn and practice and we unearthed a couple of good new kids from this year's draft already.

Chill out guys, the world isn't ending, we shouldn't have had expectations of much more, and a month is a lifetime in football.  MCG, Thursday 25th March at about 10.00pm is when we should BEGIN to pass judgment on our senior team.

And how good is it that after their first 'practice' game, the draft of 2009 already looks like producing at least 2 capable footballers - and Griffiths, Dea, Taylor, Roberts et al have yet to pull on the jumper!

And how crap is that "protected zone" ruling! The only thing I can say in the umpire's defence is that they were also umpiring for the first time this season and probably have the same rights as the players to being 'rusty'.

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #278 on: February 13, 2010, 11:03:36 PM »
I think a Bex powder and a good lie down is needed by some.

It was a NAB Cup game, it was our first opportunity to put the new game plan and attitude into practice, it would have been one of the youngest ever squads to represent a VFL/AFL team, we played a premiership team with a serious point to prove, we didn't lie down, we showed a lot more pressure on the ball carrier across the ground, we didn't 'get' the new umpiring interpretations, we have 40 days and 2 more games to learn and practice and we unearthed a couple of good new kids from this year's draft already.

Chill out guys, the world isn't ending, we shouldn't have had expectations of much more, and a month is a lifetime in football.  MCG, Thursday 25th March at about 10.00pm is when we should BEGIN to pass judgment on our senior team.

And how good is it that after their first 'practice' game, the draft of 2009 already looks like producing at least 2 capable footballers - and Griffiths, Dea, Taylor, Roberts et al have yet to pull on the jumper!

And how crap is that "protected zone" ruling! The only thing I can say in the umpire's defence is that they were also umpiring for the first time this season and probably have the same rights as the players to being 'rusty'.

You mention new game plan.
The first 3 quarters were kick short and kick wide.
If thats the game plan, we wont be competitive for the entire year I am afraid.
Hawthorn eased up in the last quarter.
Clarkson was smiling and joking at the three quarter time huddle
Very bad night for the RFC , its effects membership sales but more importantly players dropped there head once they got behind, the mark to Roughhead in the 3rd quarter when 5 of our players were spectators and watched said it all, THEY AINT LEARNT ANYTHING in the past 16 weeks.
Might also add a mate who works for an AFL Club and watches all clubs thought that we were the worst club training at the present., After tonight, he is correct.

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #279 on: February 13, 2010, 11:13:35 PM »
Astbury will be a gun.

Martin well no words can describe his game. He is going to make Players like Tambling and Edwards want to hide, thats how much better than those hacks he is.

Nahas=Exactly what we needed. a Milne type who can easily bag 6 goals in a game but he does which most senior players dont do especially Newman is FARQIN TACKLE.

he tackles like a player who is 90kgs, has a great work rate and plays like someone who has been given the chance to play senior footy and doesnt seem to take any game for granted.

Overall exactly what i thought would happen. no real surprises at all. Usual hacks like Hislop and Edwards leading the way.

Lets hope Dimma culls those 2 and Thompson at the end of this year. Polak needs another run but i cant see him helping us to many wins, just doesnt have the big body type we need

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #280 on: February 13, 2010, 11:25:07 PM »
You mention new game plan.
The first 3 quarters were kick short and kick wide.
If thats the game plan, we wont be competitive for the entire year I am afraid.

Yep, new game plan.  Every single Richmond official and player has mentioned it since last season - it's not news Jack.  Did it work for us?  Not tonight, no.  Does it have a long term future?  Way way too early to tell.   Was there differences from last year's?  Absolutely.  We were forced wide and kicked short largely because we came up against one of the best drilled and most disciplined sides going around in recent times.  Samson and Goliath stuff.  Did we revert to the stop, prop, look around, panic that we have all become accustomed to in recent years?  Rarely, if at all.  So let's indulge the coaching group and our very young squad just a tad more than hanging them on 3/4 of their first game together.

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Hawthorn eased up in the last quarter.

Meh.  I don't buy that crap at anytime.  At any point in a game of football you only play as well as the opposition lets you.  We allowed them to play well early on and we tightened up (or loosened up) later on - it all depends on whether your cup is half empty or half full.

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Clarkson was smiling and joking at the three quarter time huddle

He was doing that before the game Jack.

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Very bad night for the RFC , its effects membership sales but more importantly players dropped there head once they got behind, the mark to Roughhead in the 3rd quarter when 5 of our players were spectators and watched said it all, THEY AINT LEARNT ANYTHING in the past 16 weeks.

I disagree that they dropped their heads.  I think they lacked the knowledge and confidence to turn the game around or at least stem the flow, but what more do you want from this team of absolute babies?  I didn't see them drop off in intensity at the tackle (even if the execution wasn't perfect) for 4 quarters and that tells me a lot about the character of the group and the change in attitude.

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Might also add a mate who works for an AFL Club and watches all clubs thought that we were the worst club training at the present., After tonight, he is correct.

What do you mean by that Jack?  Worst in attitude, worst in method, worst in output, or just worst in I want to bag the club and this is a throwaway line I can chuck in?

Do you think Adelaide is going to be a 10 goal worse side than Port Adelaide over the course of this season?

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #281 on: February 13, 2010, 11:35:45 PM »


It's not Dimma's fault we have a crap 2nd tier Wayne. Appreciate your comment but at least this further exposes that crap 2nd tier in match conditions which Dimma would only be acutely aware about and should be planning to rectify it at seasons end. You can't delist everybody. :thumbsup



Do we even have a first tier?

The players are too timid, except for the newbies. Going by comments made by Deledio - ''It's a fresh feeling. Everyone's excited and I've noticed a difference in meetings. It's not dominated by more experienced players. Younger players feel like they can say something and speak up'', I think it's going to take a while for the players to get some confidence up.

Hodge, Mitchell, Franklin and Roughead all play a game style that screams 'f**k you, i'm a champion".  

Other than Deledio and Cousins do we don't have a first tier player on our list.
Barring injuries Cotchin will get there and the same can be said of Martin. One can only hope we will have four first tier players on our list although Cuz is in his twilight and he will retire in the next few years so we would have to find another six to eight guns over the next few years from those youngsters drafted last year in Novemebr or in future draft. Slim pickings and we have a long way to go unfortunantely.

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #282 on: February 13, 2010, 11:43:49 PM »
Interesting game....Our younger blokes stood up namely Martin (great game and showing huge promise), Astbury, Farmer, Gourdis.Nason looked pretty good before going off injured. Postie did a couple of good things but that out of bounds on the full was a shocker. Of our more seasoned players I thought that Graham did ok in the ruck, Lids looked like he was blowing out the cobwebs, Rance was disappointing, Connors got plenty but turned it over too much. Tambo was a bit like Lids, Hislop had a shocker, Edwards was hot and cold but more cold and should be moved forward. Newman was okay, Polo very quiet, Cotchin looked underdone but showed some flashes of brilliance and should improve. Riewoldt and Morton were starved of opportunities...

Umps killed us. 5m Protected zone....eff it off NOW!!! It is an absolute disgrace of a rule and will ruin our great game. However, we were undisciplined.

Gameplan early on players showed plenty of enthusiasm and promising defensive pressure but it didn't last as tackles were not sticking and players getting caught out of position but this should improve as the players adapt to the game plan. Too many dropped marks.  Chipping away in the backline and going short and wide needs to be gotten rid of now!!!

Overall saw some good things to build on so I'm not totally disappointed, however I'm not expecting a whole lot this year and just look forward to seeing more improvement from our young un's especially Martin who will be an absolute pleasure to watch.

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #283 on: February 13, 2010, 11:49:11 PM »
You mention new game plan.
The first 3 quarters were kick short and kick wide.
If thats the game plan, we wont be competitive for the entire year I am afraid.

Yep, new game plan.  Every single Richmond official and player has mentioned it since last season - it's not news Jack.  Did it work for us?  Not tonight, no.  Does it have a long term future?  Way way too early to tell.   Was there differences from last year's?  Absolutely.  We were forced wide and kicked short largely because we came up against one of the best drilled and most disciplined sides going around in recent times.  Samson and Goliath stuff.  Did we revert to the stop, prop, look around, panic that we have all become accustomed to in recent years?  Rarely, if at all.  So let's indulge the coaching group and our very young squad just a tad more than hanging them on 3/4 of their first game together.

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Hawthorn eased up in the last quarter.

Meh.  I don't buy that crap at anytime.  At any point in a game of football you only play as well as the opposition lets you.  We allowed them to play well early on and we tightened up (or loosened up) later on - it all depends on whether your cup is half empty or half full.

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Clarkson was smiling and joking at the three quarter time huddle

He was doing that before the game Jack.

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Very bad night for the RFC , its effects membership sales but more importantly players dropped there head once they got behind, the mark to Roughhead in the 3rd quarter when 5 of our players were spectators and watched said it all, THEY AINT LEARNT ANYTHING in the past 16 weeks.

I disagree that they dropped their heads.  I think they lacked the knowledge and confidence to turn the game around or at least stem the flow, but what more do you want from this team of absolute babies?  I didn't see them drop off in intensity at the tackle (even if the execution wasn't perfect) for 4 quarters and that tells me a lot about the character of the group and the change in attitude.

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Might also add a mate who works for an AFL Club and watches all clubs thought that we were the worst club training at the present., After tonight, he is correct.

What do you mean by that Jack?  Worst in attitude, worst in method, worst in output, or just worst in I want to bag the club and this is a throwaway line I can chuck in?

Do you think Adelaide is going to be a 10 goal worse side than Port Adelaide over the course of this season?

All I will say we must of watched a different game
They were pathetic in the game I watched tonight,
Or maybe you had your VHS playing instead and watched a game from 1980 ::)

Only ticks I would give for the game I watched was Martin, Nahas,.Cotchin

The following players were absolutely disgraceful.

Rance- Subbed off in 2nd quarter, - Told you all last year he was a dud
White- Subbed off as well. Hopeless
Polak,   was slow before his accident, isnt up to it
Edwards  - well i rather play McMahon if we are going to persist with him.
Graham   - totally useless, taps the ball to the oppositions advanatge and not ours- failed to have a mark or kick ( same as last year, NO IMPACT )
Thompson,  Not up to it.
Reiwoldt   - This kids really needs to make an impact on the game, cant carry him for much longer, if he soesnt kick 50 for the year, out the door
Polo   Did he play ?????????????????????? :banghead
Collins - extremely disappointing as I rate him, doesnt give at first option which is a real concern, got some bad habits I seen as well
Connors  - not up to.- main culprit for kicking sidways and short and turning it over by foot

And I dont believe Post is a backman either, is poor below his knees, which is a real concern for a player playing in D50, should be played forward.


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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #284 on: February 14, 2010, 12:02:24 AM »
You mention new game plan.
The first 3 quarters were kick short and kick wide.
If thats the game plan, we wont be competitive for the entire year I am afraid.

Yep, new game plan.  Every single Richmond official and player has mentioned it since last season - it's not news Jack.  Did it work for us?  Not tonight, no.  Does it have a long term future?  Way way too early to tell.   Was there differences from last year's?  Absolutely.  We were forced wide and kicked short largely because we came up against one of the best drilled and most disciplined sides going around in recent times.  Samson and Goliath stuff.  Did we revert to the stop, prop, look around, panic that we have all become accustomed to in recent years?  Rarely, if at all.  So let's indulge the coaching group and our very young squad just a tad more than hanging them on 3/4 of their first game together.

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Hawthorn eased up in the last quarter.

Meh.  I don't buy that crap at anytime.  At any point in a game of football you only play as well as the opposition lets you.  We allowed them to play well early on and we tightened up (or loosened up) later on - it all depends on whether your cup is half empty or half full.

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Clarkson was smiling and joking at the three quarter time huddle

He was doing that before the game Jack.

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Very bad night for the RFC , its effects membership sales but more importantly players dropped there head once they got behind, the mark to Roughhead in the 3rd quarter when 5 of our players were spectators and watched said it all, THEY AINT LEARNT ANYTHING in the past 16 weeks.

I disagree that they dropped their heads.  I think they lacked the knowledge and confidence to turn the game around or at least stem the flow, but what more do you want from this team of absolute babies?  I didn't see them drop off in intensity at the tackle (even if the execution wasn't perfect) for 4 quarters and that tells me a lot about the character of the group and the change in attitude.

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Might also add a mate who works for an AFL Club and watches all clubs thought that we were the worst club training at the present., After tonight, he is correct.

What do you mean by that Jack?  Worst in attitude, worst in method, worst in output, or just worst in I want to bag the club and this is a throwaway line I can chuck in?

Do you think Adelaide is going to be a 10 goal worse side than Port Adelaide over the course of this season?

like jackstar mentioned what game did you watch? I still saw fumbles when we were in the clear, i still saw panic when the hawks were playing high tempo for the first  3 QUARTERS and i also saw the hawks ease up in the last quarter of the first NAB cup game when 100pts up, as common sense would dictate in that situation - why risk injury. But you go ahead and 'don't buy into that', the hawks kept the foot down all the way to the line  ;D