Griff is also pretty stuffing accurate, we just need to get the ball to him more, bring him into the game a bit more. At the moment he has been trying to win a lot of his own like a midfielder, and has been positively mugged by defenders in the last few games, which is good. It tells us they know he is the real deal and is going have to start dealing with it, freeing up other forwards to pull the marks down. This bloke is awesome, there isn't even a debate to be had, he is plucking marks, taking two defenders, moving round the map like a dirt bike and sending cruise missile in to advantage, what isn't to like?
Ask big tone and claw. Both want to trade him!
He is a highlight reel at the moment. A few good things a game. Then goes missing for massive chucks of the game. Not even Y&BB could disagree with that.
He has had 3 tackles in 20 quarters of footy since he has come back in. Not great however you try and spin that.
I'd trade him for any pick under 20 especially in this draft when you could pick up a gem at any pick in the first 20.
A few long kicks and a few big marks haven't changed my opinion of him yet.
Let's hope he isn't the one to let us down this week.
I'd only trade him for a top 15 pick.
I agree that he needs to get the ball more but he'll never be a high possession guy. If he can average 15 possessions a game he will be an excellent player for us. I guess I look at it like this. One 65m kick from him is worth more than 6 back and forth handballs. Yet those handballs give a player an inflated possession count. One game saving pack mark is worth 10+ marks that are obtained from short chip kicks in the backline. So you see, stats don't tell us the whole story.
3 tackles in 20 quarters tells me a pretty telling story.
Maybe he should take up punting in the US. That would be perfect for him. Sit on his arse for massive chunks of the game then get up and kick it a long way. And 99% of the time he doesn't have to touch anyone. perfect!!
It looks like we don't agree on this one, but I hope you are right, the RFC need it.
Maybe you could do me a favour bt. Find out the average tackle count of 200cm+ players in the league and compare it to Griffs.
Nick Nat- 26 tackles in his last 20 quarters. Griff must work harder when he hasn't got the footy and that's a LOT.
Anything else you need while I'm handing out favours?
I'll help you then...
Ben Griffiths average tackle count 2014: 2.9
Vickery : 2.2
Taylor Walker: 1.6
Lachie Henderson: 1.9
Jake Carlisle: 2.0
Joe Daniher: 1.3
Cloke: 1.7
Jesse White: 2.1
Aaron Black: 2.0
Drew Petrie 2.6
Schultz: 2.4
David Hale: 2.2
Kurt Tippett: 1.0
In fact the only KPPs that have a higher average tackle count in 2014 is Josh Kennedy from the eagles with 3.1, Lance Franklin with 3.2 and Jarryd Roughhead with 3.0!!!! And none of them are that far ahead either...
SO THESE ARE THE FACTS. YOU CANNOT SAY GRIFF DOES NOT TACKLE ENOUGH!!!!!!
On one hand you want to compare him with KPF's when it suits you then when it doesn't he is a forward/ruckman.
10 of the players you mention are KPF's, is that what Biff is?
If so and you are comparing him to KPF, how many goals has he kicked this year? I'll tell you, 11. At .7 a game.
I bet you everyone on your list has a better goal average than Biff this year. Even young Joe. But I may be wrong??
When I looked at rucks he was better than most as well! Nic Nat and Matthew Lobe were the two big exceptions.
Your argument was far more biassed and selective than mine.
You found games where he tackled less and then found just one player in the league that was better over that time.
Look just face it, you cannot say you were wrong with Ben. Look at 99% of the posters. They share my view.
You are just waiting and hoping that he has a poor game to pounce. At 22 and 34 games that might be this week but he has shown enough to say that he is worth persevering with.