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Quote from: DCrane on August 08, 2011, 11:06:07 PMQuote from: Gigantor on August 08, 2011, 06:51:05 PMMatt Dea...way to early in his fotball life to pass judgementPerhaps Gigantor, what was it, his fourth game? He only fluffed one of his 12 possies yesterday whilst never trying anything particularly bold so that's a positive. Defensive positioning can be coached. He can get fitter. However, alarm bells, there are a couple of things that are already a huge cause for concern, willingness to put his body on the line is non existent, won't crash a pack, attempt to influence the contest, some bad signs there, these are things that you have to do if you aren't in the elite skills bracket, hope to see some dramatic improvement there! Actually, come to think of it, I'm sick of gifting games to softies, I don't care how many games you've played. Look at first game players from other clubs, they would die for the cause! Putting your body on the line esp as a defender cannot all be left to the 'cannon fodder' such as McGuane. It should be mandatory for all 22 to make the commitment!I have watched just about every VFL and pre season practice match Dea has played over the last 2 years and he is not soft. I think the opposite - his commitment to the contest is first rate. Reminds me of Duncan Kellaway in some ways.
Quote from: Gigantor on August 08, 2011, 06:51:05 PMMatt Dea...way to early in his fotball life to pass judgementPerhaps Gigantor, what was it, his fourth game? He only fluffed one of his 12 possies yesterday whilst never trying anything particularly bold so that's a positive. Defensive positioning can be coached. He can get fitter. However, alarm bells, there are a couple of things that are already a huge cause for concern, willingness to put his body on the line is non existent, won't crash a pack, attempt to influence the contest, some bad signs there, these are things that you have to do if you aren't in the elite skills bracket, hope to see some dramatic improvement there! Actually, come to think of it, I'm sick of gifting games to softies, I don't care how many games you've played. Look at first game players from other clubs, they would die for the cause! Putting your body on the line esp as a defender cannot all be left to the 'cannon fodder' such as McGuane. It should be mandatory for all 22 to make the commitment!
Matt Dea...way to early in his fotball life to pass judgement
Quote from: antay on August 09, 2011, 08:29:32 PMQuote from: DCrane on August 08, 2011, 11:06:07 PMQuote from: Gigantor on August 08, 2011, 06:51:05 PMMatt Dea...way to early in his fotball life to pass judgementPerhaps Gigantor, what was it, his fourth game? He only fluffed one of his 12 possies yesterday whilst never trying anything particularly bold so that's a positive. Defensive positioning can be coached. He can get fitter. However, alarm bells, there are a couple of things that are already a huge cause for concern, willingness to put his body on the line is non existent, won't crash a pack, attempt to influence the contest, some bad signs there, these are things that you have to do if you aren't in the elite skills bracket, hope to see some dramatic improvement there! Actually, come to think of it, I'm sick of gifting games to softies, I don't care how many games you've played. Look at first game players from other clubs, they would die for the cause! Putting your body on the line esp as a defender cannot all be left to the 'cannon fodder' such as McGuane. It should be mandatory for all 22 to make the commitment!I have watched just about every VFL and pre season practice match Dea has played over the last 2 years and he is not soft. I think the opposite - his commitment to the contest is first rate. Reminds me of Duncan Kellaway in some ways.I respect your opinion, you have seen a lot more of him than I have, I do hope your right, I've only seen him at AFL level where his commitment to the contest has been below par.Brad Helbig, on the other hand, appears willing and able to put his body on the line every time it's required, anyone can see the difference- at AFL level anyway..
You are aware that Brad is only 4 months younger than Matt and comes from a heavy footy background. Similar picks (40'ish). You'd hope that Brad is ahead but that Matt shows the potential to improve.Do you have a clue ????
No I am fckin clueless
Quote from: HKTiger on August 09, 2011, 08:59:13 PMYou are aware that Brad is only 4 months younger than Matt and comes from a heavy footy background. Similar picks (40'ish). You'd hope that Brad is ahead but that Matt shows the potential to improve.Do you have a clue ????Yeah fair enough on skill levels, polish, defensive positioning etc etcBut there are non negotiables as a defender and one of them is sacrificing your body to a contest. McGuane cops heaps on OER but I've never seen him shirk.Let's be honest, Dea opted not to include himself in a couple of packs on Sunday- not to get front and square mind you-he did not want to get involved at all. He thought McGuane or Thursty might do it for him.
Nah, I am cluelessI am a simpletonI tell myself I can only get better as I am starting from very low base.I keep telling myself , i want to reach the heights of the highly intelligent posters on OER.Please god, grant me this wish.
I wish I could judge football and tall defenders as well as HKTiger.
