Matt Dea [merged]

[HKTiger]

more than 8 games broken up by long periods of injury for a start.

any player who earns a spot through form at coburg deserves a fair run to see if they can make the next step up. not every player is drafted ready to make play seniors and not every player can make the step up from VFL to AFl in a heartbeat. some take a bit of time and some wont do it all.

have a decent look at them and make a decision.

OK based on that al,

If Dea was to play the rest of the season in the AFL that would take him to 25 odd games. Is that enough games to make a judgement? If it is and in your opinion you see no improvement or you think he isn't where you thought he should be or where you hoped he would be would you make a call then? Or do you wait another 12 months?

That's question

Think that's about right.  The club does have a set of metrics which they believe measure an AFL quality footballer.  (I think it is scaled to 1000 points and measures > 50 attributes and weights them.)  I would believe that if they see that internal graph going the right way they continue investing, within reason.

Collingwood are on record as stating that you (they) invest in developing players until they are 24/25.  After that it is wasted investment as any further development is marginal.

[Coach]

HK, who tells you all this stuff?

[Judge Roughneck]

football manager.

[HKTiger]

HK, who tells you all this stuff?

I'm a voracious reader.  Stuff that I like sticks.

[one-eyed]

Thanks to force-measuring accelerometers installed within Global Positioning System units, worn by the Richmond players each week, the G-Force of the hit on Dea was measured at a peak of more than 11G.

To put that in perspective, the force while standing is 1G, a space shuttle launch generates 3G, a rollercoaster 3.5G, cornering in a Formula One car creates 5G, and a NASA G-force simulator for astronaut training is measured at 10G.

Read full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/134664/default.aspx

[gerkin greg]

7 11G D 

[Penelope]

the thing about collingwood and their develpment was by a poster on here who attended some tour at the filth hole. i think it was a bit younger than what HKT said, though.

cant for the life of me remember who the poster was

[RedanTiger]

Think that's about right.  The club does have a set of metrics which they believe measure an AFL quality footballer.  (I think it is scaled to 1000 points and measures > 50 attributes and weights them.)  I would believe that if they see that internal graph going the right way they continue investing, within reason.

How long has this method been in use at Richmond?

[Coach]

Craig Cameron probably brought it in.

[HKTiger]

Not sure when they started the metrics, but the initial ones were in place in 2006.  Demo'ed at the draft preview night in 2006.  My understanding is that has been enhanced by FJ each year and then significantly enhanced with BH coming on board.  The club has been quoted that all AFL players get graded this (ours and opposition) as well as all potential draftees.  It was a key in chasing Houli and Grigg apparently.

The Collingwood age of development was also quoted in the HS.  But you're right it was on here too.

[dwaino]

Not sure when they started the metrics, but the initial ones were in place in 2006.  Demo'ed at the draft preview night in 2006.  My understanding is that has been enhanced by FJ each year and then significantly enhanced with BH coming on board.  The club has been quoted that all AFL players get graded this (ours and opposition) as well as all potential draftees.  It was a key in chasing Houli and Grigg apparently.

Are you talking about that thingamybob where they grade players and draftees on their skills out of 1000 (or something)? If so I think FJ was talking about that just before trade week or the draft or something in a Roar Vision video just last year. Also when trading a pick for a player, they compare their score of the player verse the score of draftees they are looking at with that pick.

[Coach]

Bloody hell, Dwayne. Go back and read HK's post on the last page

[The Big Richo]

HK, who tells you all this stuff?

I actually told him the Collingwood thing.

I heard it on a tour of their facilities last year.

[dwaino]

Bloody hell, Dwayne. Go back and read HK's post on the last page

Leave the past in the past, mang. 

[HKTiger]

Not sure when they started the metrics, but the initial ones were in place in 2006.  Demo'ed at the draft preview night in 2006.  My understanding is that has been enhanced by FJ each year and then significantly enhanced with BH coming on board.  The club has been quoted that all AFL players get graded this (ours and opposition) as well as all potential draftees.  It was a key in chasing Houli and Grigg apparently.

Are you talking about that thingamybob where they grade players and draftees on their skills out of 1000 (or something)? If so I think FJ was talking about that just before trade week or the draft or something in a Roar Vision video just last year. Also when trading a pick for a player, they compare their score of the player verse the score of draftees they are looking at with that pick.

Spot on.  It was also discussed in more detail at a C80 function.