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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2010, 08:33:54 PM »
I think a few might have missed a couple of salient points here.

The article was written by the club employee - Mic Cullen - and published on the club site so there is no way on God's green earth that any single syllable, let alone word or sentence or paragraph, was not planned and vetted and sanctioned by those responsible for media releases within the club.  This article/interview is nothing more than a pre-planned PR piece with a specific outcome in mind - maybe the 'humanising' of the Hardwick persona or the 'elevating' of Riewoldt's leadership credentials - whatever, don't read too much into it and hang the kid for something that he would have had very little say in or control over.

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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2010, 09:01:41 PM »
C'mon Smokey don't let common sense get in the way of a slagging off at a young kid

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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2010, 09:03:11 PM »
who is Jack Riewoldt?

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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2010, 09:04:31 PM »
I think a few might have missed a couple of salient points here.

The article was written by the club employee - Mic Cullen - and published on the club site so there is no way on God's green earth that any single syllable, let alone word or sentence or paragraph, was not planned and vetted and sanctioned by those responsible for media releases within the club.  This article/interview is nothing more than a pre-planned PR piece with a specific outcome in mind - maybe the 'humanising' of the Hardwick persona or the 'elevating' of Riewoldt's leadership credentials - whatever, don't read too much into it and hang the kid for something that he would have had very little say in or control over.

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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2010, 09:28:19 PM »
I think a few might have missed a couple of salient points here.

The article was written by the club employee - Mic Cullen - and published on the club site so there is no way on God's green earth that any single syllable, let alone word or sentence or paragraph, was not planned and vetted and sanctioned by those responsible for media releases within the club.  This article/interview is nothing more than a pre-planned PR piece with a specific outcome in mind - maybe the 'humanising' of the Hardwick persona or the 'elevating' of Riewoldt's leadership credentials - whatever, don't read too much into it and hang the kid for something that he would have had very little say in or control over.

smoke I understand your point but lets be honest does anyone have any confidence in anything or anyone at our club? its a rubbish article that can be interpreted in many different ways from trying to humanise hardwick, to trying to lift the Riewoldt leadership profile but what if some anti Richmond journos decide that this article was the beginning of players trying to undermine the coach, that Hardwick lacks the support of players ... what happens when we lose afew games late in year 2, could this article be used down the track to continue the pressure or put pressure on the coach. Its a rubbish article, the club shouldnt have put it on the net and that they allowed it to be so shows we have much to learn PR wise.

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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2010, 10:30:51 PM »

smoke I understand your point but lets be honest does anyone have any confidence in anything or anyone at our club?


No Ramps, not a lot but the club personnel aren't all dills either and off field they have been getting better and smarter and more professional for a few years now.

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its a rubbish article that can be interpreted in many different ways from trying to humanise hardwick, to trying to lift the Riewoldt leadership profile but what if some anti Richmond journos decide that this article was the beginning of players trying to undermine the coach, that Hardwick lacks the support of players ... what happens when we lose afew games late in year 2, could this article be used down the track to continue the pressure or put pressure on the coach. Its a rubbish article, the club shouldnt have put it on the net and that they allowed it to be so shows we have much to learn PR wise.

No non-aligned journo would even think twice about risking his professional reputation or ego responding in any way to any of these fluff pieces that every club trots out over the summer.  Its one of a thousand rubbish articles that every club puts out and no-one takes any individual notice of - the intent is to convey the message that the club wants by continual reinforcement through 'media' outlets.  We all know that if they say it often enough it becomes a fact and that's all these pieces are - small parts of an eventual 'bigger picture' fact.  I was merely highlighting how some on here had jumped down Jack's throat when he would have been an innocent pawn in the whole thing - not his fault and you can bet London to a brick that neither him, Hardwick or the rest of the team paid it even one nanosecond of attention.

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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2010, 10:49:44 PM »
Jack will be allright dont worry about that.

He is a hell of a lot better than most hacks we have down there. Given some support he will be a gem
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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2010, 11:06:58 PM »

smoke I understand your point but lets be honest does anyone have any confidence in anything or anyone at our club?


No Ramps, not a lot but the club personnel aren't all dills either and off field they have been getting better and smarter and more professional for a few years now.

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its a rubbish article that can be interpreted in many different ways from trying to humanise hardwick, to trying to lift the Riewoldt leadership profile but what if some anti Richmond journos decide that this article was the beginning of players trying to undermine the coach, that Hardwick lacks the support of players ... what happens when we lose afew games late in year 2, could this article be used down the track to continue the pressure or put pressure on the coach. Its a rubbish article, the club shouldnt have put it on the net and that they allowed it to be so shows we have much to learn PR wise.

No non-aligned journo would even think twice about risking his professional reputation or ego responding in any way to any of these fluff pieces that every club trots out over the summer.  Its one of a thousand rubbish articles that every club puts out and no-one takes any individual notice of - the intent is to convey the message that the club wants by continual reinforcement through 'media' outlets.  We all know that if they say it often enough it becomes a fact and that's all these pieces are - small parts of an eventual 'bigger picture' fact.  I was merely highlighting how some on here had jumped down Jack's throat when he would have been an innocent pawn in the whole thing - not his fault and you can bet London to a brick that neither him, Hardwick or the rest of the team paid it even one nanosecond of attention.

Would say this smokey, the club isnt that smart and they are dills down there.
You have short memory.
Lets rewind the clock back 8 months ago to the Craig Cameron/Chris Newman presser on Terry Wallace, the one where they were standing in front of the Jack Dyer statue.
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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2010, 02:23:33 AM »
We have been starved of Tiger news this off season and I reckon a few here are reading too much into this article.

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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2010, 02:40:19 AM »
it says what it says...and that is,the RFC is still falling short in the public relations department,needless to say in multiple other areas.

It can't even get ot right when it does an in house IV to be published on its own website.

Reiwoldt needs to stfu and improve.
We don't need to hear what a kid who talks to nobody has to say about a new coach.

This forum is to debate such points so please don't take to "predictable" retorts ala picking on a kid who is still a virgin....


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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2010, 02:52:01 AM »
lmao@ Humanising Hardwick in an attempt to give him a Leigh Matthews vibe when really, he's just another filler until such a time as when the clubs gets the list rite in which time he'll be long dead.

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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2010, 08:41:39 AM »
Have to agree with smokey on this one. Jacks been given leave to waft his musk all over the role for this year, he has been annointed as the big man up forward and judging by his arms, looks like his is finally filling out to match his height.  He wont be pushed about this season which I thought was the only missing ingredient.  Quiet excited to see him in action actually.  I don't mind him having a bit of character about him as long as it is good natured, which I have always seen it to be, bit of a poo stirring of the other fellas. :thumbsup
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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2010, 03:09:21 PM »

Would say this smokey, the club isnt that smart and they are dills down there.
You have short memory.
Lets rewind the clock back 8 months ago to the Craig Cameron/Chris Newman presser on Terry Wallace, the one where they were standing in front of the Jack Dyer statue.
They are better off saying nothing at punt road, trust me, I know

I disagree Jack, I don't think they are all dills or even that many of them are.  If some are then they are few and far between and reducing in number.  As for short memories, how about remembering the disgraceful state of this club when it was run by dills 5 years ago.  Led by Casey, this club had been taken from a position of financial stability and mediocre performance to one of near-financial ruin and terrible performance.  The board was largely made up of dills and so was the internal management team, hence the situation our club found itself in circa 2004.  Make no mistake, in 2004 this club was closer to folding than during the Save Our Skins crisis.

Since then we have had a board election in which some of the dills were removed and an almost total cleanout of management personnel - again, removing much of the deadwood dills.  March and the new board has overseen a financial stabilization that has allowed our club to survive.  We had 5 years of Wallace that did not advance our on-field cause but apart from the dills involved within the football department at the time, there were serious mitigating circumstances tied to the precarious financial position that compounded the issue of dills.  Now, this board has been able to begin the task of turning around the on-field position and performance by increasing spending in a prudently managed manner that will give some guarantee of competitiveness in the future.

Yes, we have made mistakes in the past 5 years but not nearly as many or of such catastrophic consequence as before and as each year of March's reign goes by these mistakes become fewer and less 'impacting'.  We now have a board that contains professionally successful people that, as a group, have demonstrated a capacity to guide our club on a path of improvement and future longevity and success.  We have a very highly regarded CEO who has just replaced a very successful CEO.  We have personnel in managerial positions that are now raising our profile and performance, and as far as the football department goes - even though Cameron and Jackson have been lambasted by a couple on here for 'non-performance' the fact is they have done very little that can be labeled as wrong in the short times both have been in their current positions.

Even though season 2009 was a serious blow to our hopes for the future and brought much negative attention to our club, through it all we handled ourselves collectively quite well and came out of it looking far more professional and in control than we could ever have dreamed of doing in the past.  None of our press coverage last year was going to look good, regardless of who was doing the talking and what they were saying - our ego's took a hammering in Round 1 that we all took personally and many of us looked inwardly to pass any blame or point fingers in order to satisfy our feelings of responsibility for failure.  The dills of years past would have turned our 2009 upheaval into a shambles of much greater and longer lasting impact than what eventually 'shook out on the ground'.  We managed the antics of Sheedy, the removal of Wallace and his men, the search for a new coach, and the disillusioned expectations of our supporters very well, despite what the finger pointers would like to believe.

So no Jack, I don't believe we are a club of dills.  Conversely, I believe we are a club of sound management that is taking baby-steps toward eventual success and I don't believe we have taken one backward step since our era of dills came to an end in 2004.  We might not have succeeded as quickly as some would have liked but we are moving in the right direction with the right people, not dills.

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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2010, 05:21:56 PM »
The club looked like complete dills with the handling of the Terry Wallace saga last year.
Also March looked like a complete dill on several occasions last year,
One day he said bluntly that we would not be taking Cousins under any circumstance and then he is falling in love with him , even to the extent that Cuz stayed at Marchs place for 3 weeks.
And there is a reason why Steve Wright aint there anymore, but we will move on.

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Re: Hardwick tough, but not too tough: Riewoldt (RFC)
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2010, 05:26:19 PM »
The club looked like complete dills with the handling of the Terry Wallace saga last year.
Also March looked like a complete dill on several occasions last year,
One day he said bluntly that we would not be taking Cousins under any circumstance and then he is falling in love with him , even to the extent that Cuz stayed at Marchs place for 3 weeks.
And there is a reason why Steve Wright aint there anymore, but we will move on.

Yeah, as if.

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