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Re: AFL stars' secret perks as extra payments revealed (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2010, 09:27:52 AM »
The AFL is going to have to employ people specifically to keep tabs on these things, to make sure that the players are actually doing something for these payments etc.
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Re: AFL stars' secret perks as extra payments revealed (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2010, 09:52:53 AM »
The AFL is going to have to employ people specifically to keep tabs on these things, to make sure that the players are actually doing something for these payments etc.

While I agree 100% Al, I can just imagine Adrian Anderson sitting in a rubbish bin with just his beady little eyes peeking out - very Maxwell Smart-ish!!   :lol

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Re: AFL stars' secret perks as extra payments revealed (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2010, 10:17:15 AM »
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Re: AFL stars' secret perks as extra payments revealed (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2010, 12:22:15 PM »
Wow, Costa has totally stuffed up Geelongs integrity to act in an ethical manner to almost Carlton levels.

Damage control indeed.
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Re: AFL stars' secret perks as extra payments revealed (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2010, 12:58:24 PM »
Wow, Costa has totally stuffed up Geelongs integrity to act in an ethical manner to almost Carlton levels.

Damage control indeed.

Not his fault.
The AFL has been so flaky with their policing of this re the Judd example that I can certainly empathsise with his views.
Don't blame Costa, blame the AFL's inconsistencies.

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Re: AFL stars' secret perks as extra payments revealed (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2010, 05:02:38 PM »
As long as outside contracts must be honoured regardless of what club the players is at then I feel it is fine.

Sorry Striper, I've read that 4 times and I don't understand what you're trying to say. Can you please clarify it?

What I was trying to say was that if a contract is to be truly considered outside the salary cap it needs to go with a player where-ever he plays. So if Judd was to secure a lucrative deal with VISY yet moves to Collingwood, he would retain the sponsorship regardless. The AFL would have to ensure this was the reality and sign off on any contracts a player receives while partaking in the system.

Just my take

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Re: AFL stars' secret perks as extra payments revealed (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2010, 08:24:29 PM »
What I was trying to say was that if a contract is to be truly considered outside the salary cap it needs to go with a player where-ever he plays. So if Judd was to secure a lucrative deal with VISY yet moves to Collingwood, he would retain the sponsorship regardless. The AFL would have to ensure this was the reality and sign off on any contracts a player receives while partaking in the system.

Fair point. However clubs rorting the system could just step around that by renewing 'third-party' contracts on a year by year basis.

As for the club officially saying it's not involved but unoffically telling potential sponsors they need to contact the player's manager to get the deal done - it's all becoming a bit of a farce  :-\.

Certainly is.

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Re: AFL stars' secret perks as extra payments revealed (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2010, 09:12:35 PM »
What I was trying to say was that if a contract is to be truly considered outside the salary cap it needs to go with a player where-ever he plays. So if Judd was to secure a lucrative deal with VISY yet moves to Collingwood, he would retain the sponsorship regardless. The AFL would have to ensure this was the reality and sign off on any contracts a player receives while partaking in the system.

Fair point. However clubs rorting the system could just step around that by renewing 'third-party' contracts on a year by year basis.

As for the club officially saying it's not involved but unoffically telling potential sponsors they need to contact the player's manager to get the deal done - it's all becoming a bit of a farce  :-\.

Certainly is.

Interesting take MM - good call too. When it's all said and done the only way to make it fair is to up the salary cap and include any third party sponsorships inclusive to the players salary. Very hard to police though whichever way you look at it and may be seen as a violation of players rights. The AFL needs to stop turning a blind eye to such issues, like they have repeatedly done with the Tanking fiasco, and find a solution here or risk compromising the competition. The AFL's unbending focus is to bring in the two new clubs so while that is high on the priority list, they will continue to ignore such issues to the detriment of the poorer clubs I fear.

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Re: AFL stars' secret perks as extra payments revealed (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2010, 10:14:26 PM »
What I was trying to say was that if a contract is to be truly considered outside the salary cap it needs to go with a player where-ever he plays. So if Judd was to secure a lucrative deal with VISY yet moves to Collingwood, he would retain the sponsorship regardless. The AFL would have to ensure this was the reality and sign off on any contracts a player receives while partaking in the system.

Fair point. However clubs rorting the system could just step around that by renewing 'third-party' contracts on a year by year basis.

As for the club officially saying it's not involved but unoffically telling potential sponsors they need to contact the player's manager to get the deal done - it's all becoming a bit of a farce  :-\.

Certainly is.

Interesting take MM - good call too. When it's all said and done the only way to make it fair is to up the salary cap and include any third party sponsorships inclusive to the players salary. Very hard to police though whichever way you look at it and may be seen as a violation of players rights. The AFL needs to stop turning a blind eye to such issues, like they have repeatedly done with the Tanking fiasco, and find a solution here or risk compromising the competition. The AFL's unbending focus is to bring in the two new clubs so while that is high on the priority list, they will continue to ignore such issues to the detriment of the poorer clubs I fear.

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Only problem is that this would pretty much rule out any player making an income outside of football. Its the only way you could police it and will never happen. They'd create themselves a massive legal issue if they even tried.