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It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« on: March 21, 2010, 07:22:56 AM »
It's getting hard to say yes to Ben
CAROLINE WILSON
March 21, 2010

 

ONE year has passed since Ben Cousins made his debut for the Richmond Football Club in front of a highly charged, almost sold-out MCG. The anticipation was fever pitch in the days that led up to that game, which will go down in football history as one of the AFL's more memorable anti-climaxes.

Remember the feeling beforehand though? Former Essendon coach Kevin Sheedy had returned to Tigerland and led the push to recruit Cousins. He told the players at the heavily attended guernsey presentation that they could steal a premiership and Richmond was tipped by many to make the eight.

Cousins was under financial duress and had enlisted the support of AFL Players Association boss Brendon Gale to call off what was apparently becoming, for him, untenable tabloid media scrutiny. Then he decided that rather than beat them, he would join them and, under the guidance of manager Ricky Nixon, he became a ghosted newspaper columnist.

It all fell apart for Richmond on that chilly MCG autumn night when Cousins tore a hamstring. Coach Terry Wallace never recovered from the humiliation and the Tigers, after a number of micro-skirmishes, took a deep breath and realised they must once again start all over - dramatically but effectively this time.

Gale is now their CEO, Sheedy has moved on and Nixon, after a bitter financial falling out with the player he fought to resurrect, no longer does Cousins' bidding. He also has blamed Cousins' drinking on the split. Wallace has been banished and has all but disappeared from the AFL landscape and Richmond has placed its faith in his diametric opposite in Damien Hardwick.

Twelve months on, as Hardwick attempts to transform the Richmond Football Club from a team scorned for its selfishness, skill and lack of four-quarter commitment into a hard, respected and perhaps, one day, even feared playing group, it is worth examining once again whether Richmond did the right thing in backing itself to back Ben Cousins. My answer one year ago was yes. Today it is no.

Despite a carefully-worded denial released by the club several days ago key figures within the club continue to confirm that the Tigers have been provoked on more than one occasion over the past year to warn Cousins to curb his drinking. There is no shadow of doubt he has over-indulged in alcohol on too many occasions since going to Tigerland and no shadow of doubt that something went horribly wrong for him pre-Christmas.

Although the club denies he ever ''went missing'' during the off-season, there were many nervous moments and the club would not want to endure another summer like the one just gone where a long-term and, hopefully, recovering drug addict is concerned. It was confirmed again several days ago that Cousins was told some three months ago to lift his game where the pre-season was concerned.

The club remains mystified regarding Cousins' stomach illness, which has seen him hospitalised twice over the past 10 days. Although no one has ever suggested binge drinking led to the illness, it is beyond doubt that drug addicts should not over-indulge in alcohol. Richmond keeps a close eye on Cousins' activities and there have been too many dubious sightings for anyone's comfort.

The good news is that towards the end of the week the player himself was "training the house down'' and could still shape up for Thursday night's season-opener. His form last season over 15 games earned him a top-five finish in Richmond's best and fairest and the players have certainly talked up, on occasion, Cousins' work ethic on the track and his superb example where on-field skill and decision-making are concerned.

It is not Cousins' fault that 2009 went pear-shaped for the club. In fact, Andrew Demetriou described him at one point as a great source of pride for Richmond in an otherwise dreadful year. It is less certain what Demetriou thinks now and certainly both the AFL and the Tigers have had a gutful of the speculation surrounding the documentary, the book, the gangland connections, the happenings that may or may not have taken place in Thailand last summer, the constant meetings with AFL doctor Harry Unglick and all the baggage that continues to cling to this troubled man.

Cousins' off-field battles and the recent controversies are not in themselves enough to mount an argument that the club might have been better off without him. And who knows what his freakish talent can produce this season? But surely there is some lingering doubt as to whether he is the best example for a very young group of players.

This is not to suggest that Cousins is directly a bad influence because he remains by all reports a relatively solitary member of the playing group where social activity is concerned. But surely the fact that he is treated so differently to any other player and operates under a different set of rules is not helpful as Hardwick fights to eradicate the long-standing culture of division and selfishness at Richmond.

It was a far more subdued season launch two days ago compared with the fanfare of 2009. Premiership talk had been replaced by the new Tiger buzz word ''transformation'' and Hardwick spoke quietly, but convincingly, about his conservative hopes and assurances for 2010.

As a group, the players looked frighteningly young with thirtysomethings Cousins and Troy Simmons lifting the average in what could prove their final seasons.

Certainly, if you asked Richmond now, it would say that this is most likely Cousins' last year in the AFL. The structure of a home-and-away football season and a more generous and still bonus-driven playing contract is hopefully just what the doctor ordered.

That at least provides the short-term solution.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/its-getting-hard-to-say-yes-to-ben-20100320-qnbg.html

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Re: It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2010, 07:52:50 AM »
It's getting hard to say yes to Ben
CAROLINE WILSON
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Re: It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2010, 08:31:36 AM »
Dumb slut.


Another Woman's Day tabloid article full of hear-say and baseless connotations.


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Re: It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2010, 08:50:12 AM »
Terrible article Caro.
Next time I see you dining upstairs at the Stokehouse , I will be tempted to get a photo with you holding a glass of wine.
I will then post it on the net, saying your a drunk. ::).
Its no secret Bens gets out often, no problem there. So did Richo and Nathan Brown.
Didnt see the papers saying that Richo had a problem when he was out late . :banghead

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Re: It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2010, 08:57:54 AM »

Its no secret Bens gets out often, no problem there.


As long Ben's social drinking doesn't effect his football I could really care less and there's absolutely no evidence that it has despite what this pap columnist would have you think.

I cannot wait until the ball is bounced on Thursday night. Can't happen fast enough!

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Re: It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2010, 10:01:06 AM »

 certainly both the AFL and the Tigers have had a gutful of the speculation surrounding the documentary, the book, the gangland connections, the happenings that may or may not have taken place in Thailand last summer, the constant meetings with AFL doctor Harry Unglick and all the baggage that continues to cling to this troubled man.

As i'm sure they are sick of scrags like you continually dredging up dirt in this manner.



Despite a carefully-worded denial released by the club several days ago key figures within the club continue to confirm that the Tigers have been provoked on more than one occasion over the past year to warn Cousins to curb his drinking. There is no shadow of doubt he has over-indulged in alcohol on too many occasions since going to Tigerland and no shadow of doubt that something went horribly wrong for him pre-Christmas.


So Caroline you hag, you are saying the club is lying? Some one is. Either the club, you, or your so called source. Name them or shut the stuff up. anonymous accusations carry no weight, no matter how much you sully the waters with insinuations

This is not to suggest that Cousins is directly a bad influence because he remains by all reports a relatively solitary member of the playing group where social activity is concerned. But surely the fact that he is treated so differently to any other player and operates under a different set of rules is not helpful as Hardwick fights to eradicate the long-standing culture of division and selfishness at Richmond.

You really are a gutter snipe aren't you? "not to suggest he is a bad influence", but then insinuate he is!
Fact that he is treated so different? In what way? because he remains relatively solitary socially.? You idiot!
Time and time again you display no real knowledge of football itself, yet are happy to write condemning articles full of innuendo and as Douggie would say - NAMURE.

Go back to middle earth with the rest of goblins, vile creature.
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Re: It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2010, 10:09:56 AM »
caro is a unt with a c

i know for a fact that on the end of season booze up last yr , cousins did not drink a drop of alcohol, drank water all the way.
not the behaviour of someone who has an alcohol problem

why the f has caro got it in for ben

she needs a penis

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Re: It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2010, 10:15:28 AM »
well shes not getting anywhere near mine - beastiality is a crime.
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2010, 10:39:07 AM »
Caro is a respected football journalist(cheif writer for the Age if I'm not mistaken),and a Richmond person to boot.....To have names such as slut and hag associated with her,really makes my stomach churn.
Granted she might get things wrong sometimes as they all do,but to stoop to such name calling is beyond me

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Re: It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2010, 10:46:28 AM »
Caro is a respected football journalist(cheif writer for the Age if I'm not mistaken),and a Richmond person to boot.....To have names such as slut and hag associated with her,really makes my stomach churn.
Granted she might get things wrong sometimes as they all do,but to stoop to such name calling is beyond me


Richmond people don't go around bagging Richmond in newspapers. Richmond people don't go bagging their club on TV shows. Richmond people don't do what Caro does.

Caro can get stuffed as far as I'm concerned.

I agree with al, she can go back to middle earth with the rest of the goblins :thumbsup

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Re: It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2010, 11:55:15 AM »
It's an opinion piece.
I disagree with Caro.
But for heaven's sake some of the language used towards her in this thread screams of misogyny. ::)
Or the primary schoolyard.
Surely we are big enough and old enough to disagree with her without resorting to that.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2010, 12:02:23 PM »
It's an opinion piece.
I disagree with Caro.
But for heaven's sake some of the language used towards her in this thread screams of misogyny. ::)
Or the primary schoolyard.
Surely we are big enough and old enough to disagree with her without resorting to that.

Surely Caro is big enough and old enough (certainly is old enough :shh :lol) to put aside her personal vendettas and write something that's not complete rubbish? Some of it is opinion, some of it is her speculating and hinting at other things. What does she get out of writing all this stuff about Richmond? I thought she was a Tigers fan.

If it was all opinion I probably wouldn't care a lot and like you, I'd simply disagree. But it ain't...she acts like she speaks fact but never lists her source?

Don't rate her at all.


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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2010, 12:08:01 PM »
so in effect she is saying in her opinion  there is no place at richmond because he drinks to much.
well i have no doubt  hes probably chucking it down to much  but if articles of late by her  reasons for why the rfc should get rid of ben well shes way of track.

anyway whats the point hes contracted for a season its likely his last season. so we are talaking short term anyway. hes not got into trouble.  hes back training the house down, and hes most definately an on field leader of which we have very few. i dont think anyone could complain about what hes produced so far on field or the leadership and help hes provided to the kids.

so whats the point  here. shes concerned he will be a bad influence on a very young group outside of footy. but she herself said hes a pretty solitary member of the group.
 is that it. caro what are you trying to achieve. the cynic in me says ben sells papers so you will write anything about him even though hes done nothing wrong.  was there even a need for these articles given the overall  circumstances.

who really cares if he gets peeed a bit to often as long as he is not hurting anyone else and hes doing his job  most wouldnt give a damn.

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Re: It's getting hard to say yes to Ben: Caro (Age)
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2010, 02:26:16 PM »
Caro is a respected football journalist(cheif writer for the Age if I'm not mistaken),and a Richmond person to boot.....To have names such as slut and hag associated with her,really makes my stomach churn.
Granted she might get things wrong sometimes as they all do,but to stoop to such name calling is beyond me


Hag;
Pronunciation: \ˈhag\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English hagge demon, old woman
Date: 14th century

1 : an ugly, slatternly, or evil-looking old woman
2 archaic a : a female demon b : an evil or frightening spirit : hobgoblin
3 : witch.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hag

Meh, I'm comfortable with my use of the word.
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI