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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2010, 03:35:54 PM »
Venues belonging to the ALH Group to avoid if protesting

http://www.alhgroup.com.au/our_venues_vic.php


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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2010, 03:49:59 PM »
Venues belonging to the ALH Group to avoid if protesting

Young and Jacksons (Melbourne)


Won't be hard to give Y & J's a wide berth hey Al?

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2010, 03:57:43 PM »
Also ALH brands to avoid if protesting....

BWS bottle shops
Dan Murphy's
Graziers Beef
28s
Great Food Great Value
Live At Your Local


To contact ALH:
http://www.alhgroup.com.au/contact.html

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2010, 04:07:52 PM »
Venues belonging to the ALH Group to avoid if protesting

Young and Jacksons (Melbourne)


Won't be hard to give Y & J's a wide berth hey Al?

Eff 'em. They can kiss my big yellow butt
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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2010, 04:13:16 PM »
How has Woolworths allowed this to happen. Dick Smith sponsors our club and Woolies let Matheson do this. Its just disgraceful. As fas as I know ALH is owned in a joint venture job that includes Woolworths Ltd.

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2010, 04:23:46 PM »
How has Woolworths allowed this to happen. Dick Smith sponsors our club and Woolies let Matheson do this. Its just disgraceful. As fas as I know ALH is owned in a joint venture job that includes Woolworths Ltd.
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* ALH Group – Hotel and Poker Machine operator, which is 75% owned by Woolworths Limited.

Woolworths started to expand into liquor businesses with the acquisition of Dan Murphy's in 1998. By 2001, the BWS chain had been established. With Queensland licensing laws dictating that retail outlets must be operated by a hotelier, Woolworths moved into the hotel industry in 2005 in a joint venture with experienced hotel operator Bruce Mathieson, purchasing hotelier Australian Leisure and Hospitality Group (ALH). Later in 2005 the ALH Group expanded its portfolio to 250 hotels by acquiring the Taverner Hotel Group and the Bruce Mathieson Group. The ALH Group is 25% owned by Bruce Mathieson and 75% owned by Woolworths. Statistics provided during the acquisition of the Taverner group showed that over one third of sales are made up of gaming/poker machine takings.[13]  The number of poker machines owned by Woolworths and Bruce Mathieson after ALH acquisitions was 10,722 (2006 figure).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woolworths_Limited

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2010, 04:26:21 PM »
Well the campaign is not to only boycott the pubs but to boycott the supermarkets and there petrol plus outlets, Id suggest we all get on the phones, the emails etc and make Woolworths aware that their behaviour has been disgraceful and that they need to rectify this asap or we wont be buying anything from their stores!

I just did my bit

http://www.woolworthslimited.com.au/phoenix.zhtml?c=144044&p=irol-contact1

Id suggest we all let Woolworths know what we think of them!

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2010, 04:38:04 PM »
Is there anyway in this that we can legally claim we are being underpaid in our DSE major sponsor agreement? Because effectively in terms of their parent company Woolworths they will be paying in total less for the sponsorship than the agreed terms. We gain something like $1.0-1.5m? from the major sponsorship but lose $100ks from the loss of the Royal Oak. Woolies is the major partner of ALH (75%); not Blue supporter Mathieson. I agree Ramps it's a disgrace to have our sponsor's parent company screw us.

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2010, 05:28:04 PM »
Well, I mean I'm all for the caustic soda and hot grease treatment but some folks got all righteous bout it last time.  As Kenny Rogers sang in that song...  You got to know when to scold em, know when to walk away, know when to run... 
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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2010, 06:13:40 PM »
How has Woolworths allowed this to happen. Dick Smith sponsors our club and Woolies let Matheson do this. Its just disgraceful. As fas as I know ALH is owned in a joint venture job that includes Woolworths Ltd.

Separate legal entities, lads, so really, we can rant and rave as much as we want but as far as it goes what happens outside of Dick Smith in the Woolies empire is of no use complaining about as that's the legal entity we have an agreement with, not Woolworths Ltd.
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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2010, 06:30:55 PM »
It's not about legal BS. It's about common sense.
When you sponsor a sports club you want them to be successful, so success is associated with your brand.

So WTF would a company allow one part of it's organisation, of which they control 70%, take action that directly affects the ability of a sporting club, that another offshoot of the company sponsors, to be successful, for no financial gain what so ever?
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And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2010, 07:05:48 PM »
I'll be shopping at Coles from now on and telling my wife to do the same.

Don't use Woollies petrol.

Looks like I'll be getting my Jimmy and Cokes from Duncans from now on.

Shame about my local the Excelsior Hotel being owned by that group: was there last night and had a great porterhouse topped with calamari using Graziers beef. The triple layer parmagiana is sensational also. Real shame. :help

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2010, 07:16:44 PM »
It's not about legal BS. It's about common sense.
When you sponsor a sports club you want them to be successful, so success is associated with your brand.

So WTF would a company allow one part of it's organisation, of which they control 70%, take action that directly affects the ability of a sporting club, that another offshoot of the company sponsors, to be successful, for no financial gain what so ever?

Yes it is, but the brand is Dick Smith and they want us to be successful, means stuff all to another Woolies subsidiary that gets no exposure from RFC what-so-ever.  the Dick Smith CEO might be able to have words but overall the legal BS stands as the complete reason why.

All these subsidiaries might be under the same umbrella but they're all different entities looking to maximise profit at any cost.
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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2010, 09:58:34 PM »
How are they maximising profit by taking ownership of licenses (or lease of venue, or whatever)  away from Richmond and Footscray and giving it to Carlton?
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2010, 10:15:03 PM »
I hate Carlton
The club that keeps giving.