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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2010, 09:05:58 PM »
If there are differences in philosophy between Hardwick and Cameron then Cameron should be out.
there is.
Also between March and Cameron, interesting hey

And you got this earth shattering piece of gossip from where this time?
Give me a break - you cannot really be serious
So let me get this straight outside of everyone at the club being liars am I to now believe we have a club of Oscar calibre actors as well?
Because we certainly must have because the 2 you mention above were at Craigieburn on Saturday together talking for the entire game. But based on your gossip they must be bloody brillant actors  ::)
And I'm accused of a massive over reaction.
Jack merely said there are differences in philosophy between March and Cameron.
You've turned it around so they must hate each other so much they won't speak.

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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2010, 09:09:45 PM »
Walls is a germ.
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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2010, 09:26:10 PM »
And I'm accused of a massive over reaction.
Jack merely said there are differences in philosophy between March and Cameron.
You've turned it around so they must hate each other so much they won't speak.

No I didn't turn anything around. Just basing my comments on historical evidence

I asked Jack on another thread (one of the Cousins' ones IIRC) if everyone at the Club was lying he said YES

He has now implied that there are problems between the President and the Footy Chief - all I've raised is they must be good actors becasue they hide their "differences" so very well  ;D
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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2010, 09:38:06 PM »
If there are differences in philosophy between Hardwick and Cameron then Cameron should be out.
there is.
Also between March and Cameron, interesting hey

And you got this earth shattering piece of gossip from where this time?
Give me a break - you cannot really be serious
So let me get this straight outside of everyone at the club being liars am I to now believe we have a club of Oscar calibre actors as well?
Because we certainly must have because the 2 you mention above were at Craigieburn on Saturday together talking for the entire game. But based on your gossip they must be bloody brillant actors  ::)
And I'm accused of a massive over reaction.
Jack merely said there are differences in philosophy between March and Cameron.
You've turned it around so they must hate each other so much they won't speak.

did he, i thought he insinuated there was a rift between the two, he didn't say the above at all :o
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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2010, 10:17:36 PM »
Richmond as a club had to make the decision on elevations.
Cameron elevated both the mature rookies.
As I have pointed out, by his actions Hardwick has shown that he does not agree with that Decision.

You call it a massive over reaction, I worry about the senior coach wanting to fast track young players being hamstrung by the List Manager not allowing him to play them.
What was the alternative? Elevate rookies who had shown nothing and weren't ready and be stuck with them on the senior list for the rest of the year? By elevating the mature rookies we had some bigger bodies to throw in for senior games if required. Gourdis is the only unlucky one and he can get elevated in a few weeks even without a long term injury. Contin has only just made it into Coburg Seniors, Hicks is too light, O'Reilly is still learning how to play AFL.

Even with the benefit of hindsight, who should have been given the nod instead?

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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2010, 10:20:17 PM »
And I'm accused of a massive over reaction.
Jack merely said there are differences in philosophy between March and Cameron.
You've turned it around so they must hate each other so much they won't speak.

No I didn't turn anything around. Just basing my comments on historical evidence

I asked Jack on another thread (one of the Cousins' ones IIRC) if everyone at the Club was lying he said YES

He has now implied that there are problems between the President and the Footy Chief - all I've raised is they must be good actors becasue they hide their "differences" so very well  ;D

WP, now, common knowledge that Cuz didnt have a knee problem.
And there a big differnces between March and Cameron
And the club were lying in regards to Cuz

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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2010, 10:21:24 PM »
They hide the lying well you mean.

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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2010, 11:05:52 PM »

did he, i thought he insinuated there was a rift between the two, he didn't say the above at all :o


No, he didn't "insinuate" there was a rift despite what you "thought".
He said there was a difference of philosophy between them as I quoted in my post.
FYI


If there are differences in philosophy between Hardwick and Cameron then Cameron should be out.

there is.
Also between March and Cameron, interesting hey

Edit: Now understand you were talking about - the first "he" is Jackstar while the second "he" is Ramps.
To get to your (and Ramps) point, you seem to believe that the President and Football Manager cannot socialise if they disagree about the philosophy behind the playing list.
Think that's a pretty naive viewpoint but do think that something has got to give if the List Manager and Match committee are too far apart in their ideas about the list. 
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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2010, 11:23:33 PM »
What was the alternative? Elevate rookies who had shown nothing and weren't ready and be stuck with them on the senior list for the rest of the year? By elevating the mature rookies we had some bigger bodies to throw in for senior games if required. Gourdis is the only unlucky one and he can get elevated in a few weeks even without a long term injury. Contin has only just made it into Coburg Seniors, Hicks is too light, O'Reilly is still learning how to play AFL.

Even with the benefit of hindsight, who should have been given the nod instead?

What was the alternative? Elevate a key position player that the match committee may have wanted to play - unlike Polak who they clearly don't want.
Elevate Rookies who have shown nothing? Unlike Polak who has shown what over three years and most pertinently this pre-season?
Be stuck with them for the rest of the year? Do you seriously think Polak is a better bet than Gourdis thru this year and INTO THE FUTURE?
Bigger bodies? Polak 193cm 93kg   Gourdis 193cm  93kg
Elevated in a few weeks? After 11 rounds of competition we will have a player who could have replaced Thursfield and McGuane already, remember against Melbourne?

With or without the benefit of hindsight Gourdis was a better bet and has been on our list for two years already.

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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #54 on: April 28, 2010, 06:56:14 AM »
And there a big differnces between March and Cameron

Are you sure about that  ???

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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #55 on: April 28, 2010, 08:29:27 AM »
Did Walls say why he didn't speak with Waldron?

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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #56 on: April 28, 2010, 09:21:31 AM »
And there a big differnces between March and Cameron

Are you sure about that  ???

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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #57 on: April 28, 2010, 10:21:29 AM »
The only liar here is jack

He always lies. :shh


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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2010, 12:53:05 PM »
The only liar here is jack

He always lies. :shh


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you will find i aint lying

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Re: I didn't speak to Waldron at Richmond: Walls
« Reply #59 on: April 28, 2010, 12:54:39 PM »
The only liar here is jack

He always lies. :shh


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you will find i aint lying

which part arent you lying about?