Richmond interested in Port's Travis Boak (Age)

[Infamy]

I would be happy to trade up the following players with LATE round picks for mature experienced players.

Edwards
Connors (off field too dodgy)
White
Collins
Farmer
Nahas (really like him but might add value)
Graham
Hislop
Thompson
McMahon
Morton
Post
Rance
King

Ridiculous list of players for half of them
Giving up on half our kids before they've even had a proper chance to develop

Ridiculous or realistic, given up on our kids, please what has this list shown, please tell me??? If we are serious about being serious during trade week it's time to be aggressive like the other clubs are. We are weak during trade period and it has to stop. You have a go at my list Infamy what ever you do don't go onto the other trade thread because the likes of Foley, Tambling and the rest are being thrown up.

Post has gone backwards, Rance (who I always liked) just doesn't seem to fit, Morton doesn't want the hard ball or to work hard for that matter, do I need to go on, the rest have pretty well had long enough to show something, Farmer maybe not but who the hell else Infamy. C'mon what have they done???

They're kids. At any other club they wouldn't have even have debuted yet as they are let to develop at a lower level. We have no need to top up with older players yet, just keep focussing on the draft and delist/trade the older players who won't be around when we are playing finals in a couple of years.

[WA Tiger]

I would be happy to trade up the following players with LATE round picks for mature experienced players.

Edwards
Connors (off field too dodgy)
White
Collins
Farmer
Nahas (really like him but might add value)
Graham
Hislop
Thompson
McMahon
Morton
Post
Rance
King

Ridiculous list of players for half of them
Giving up on half our kids before they've even had a proper chance to develop

Ridiculous or realistic, given up on our kids, please what has this list shown, please tell me??? If we are serious about being serious during trade week it's time to be aggressive like the other clubs are. We are weak during trade period and it has to stop. You have a go at my list Infamy what ever you do don't go onto the other trade thread because the likes of Foley, Tambling and the rest are being thrown up.

Post has gone backwards, Rance (who I always liked) just doesn't seem to fit, Morton doesn't want the hard ball or to work hard for that matter, do I need to go on, the rest have pretty well had long enough to show something, Farmer maybe not but who the hell else Infamy. C'mon what have they done???

They're kids. At any other club they wouldn't have even have debuted yet as they are let to develop at a lower level. We have no need to top up with older players yet, just keep focussing on the draft and delist/trade the older players who won't be around when we are playing finals in a couple of years.

Kids they might be Infamy but that doesnt mean we can't trade them for better kids or draft picks. Have another look at the names on the list, have any of them played better than Barlow or Silvani this year.... no. I am not saying trade them for older players, but trade them for better players or draft picks. Borlow and Silvani type players will be out there and I am sure a few clubs would be interested in some of my list for draft picks.

We need to stop sitting on our hands and mix it up this year during trade period. The name of players I have listed IMHO, none will play in our next finals side!!

[Penelope]

Post has only played 10 senior games of footy WAT. A bit early to make a call on him isnt it?

[WA Tiger]

Post has only played 10 senior games of footy WAT. A bit early to make a call on him isnt it?

Post maybe one, but the rest, take your pick, and post has slowed down a lot from last year IMO, he might get us a better player or pick in the draft.

[wayne]

As Infamy said WAT, most other teams can afford the luxury of letting their kids get experience in the VFL, then bring them in for a taste of AFL, then drop them back if they're struggling a bit and not have fans write them off as duds after 3 games (eg. Matt Dea). They're not required to dominate games so early into their careers.

With Melbournes improvement, there isn't the pressure on them anymore to get Jack Watts into the team and kick 5 goals a week. Jamar's form means their young rucks can go about it at VFL till they're ready.

We're going so bad at the moment that if a kid hasn't shown anything in 10 games, some want to move them on and try our luck in the draft again, only for the same thing to happen.

Going through your list:

Edwards - keep, he keeps improving.
Connors - keep
White - delist, he's worthless
Collins - keep
Farmer - keep
Nahas - keep
Graham - delist, he's worthless
Hislop - reports are that he's doing well at Coburg, still only a 20 year old - keep
Thomson - Old enough now that he should be a regular - delist
McMahon - delist
Morton - i'd trade this guy and he might get us an early pick
Post - keep, only his second year
Rance - keep
King - delist

[WA Tiger]

Every week many on this forum call for just about all of those players on my list to be either dropped, de-listed, casterated, shot, garrotted or just hung out to dry... . Now, all I am saying is that IMHO they are all tradeable regardless of age. Would you take an early draft pick in return for Morton and Post.. I would. Connors, now every man and his dog will tell you I was his advocate more than anyone on this earth but he just can't settle off field and his latest is not his first indescretion. Edwards has played two really good games, I said really good, in his entire career at the RFC, trade him. Farmer, Nahas and Edwards all the same size and could quite easily play in each others position, why have 3 of them or even them 3, trade them off for taller KPP players (maybe keep Nahas or Farmer). Surley teams closer to the top would look at them to fill their voids. As for Collins, I have had a lot of time for this bloke but he plays with all the time in the world now and then he gets caught, he now second gueses instead of giving off in the first instance and is continuously caught and now he has lost his beautiful accurate kicking on either side of his body.

The rest of them, well I agree.

[Infamy]

Kids they might be Infamy but that doesnt mean we can't trade them for better kids or draft picks.

Sounds like a dog chasing it's tail to me.

Have another look at the names on the list, have any of them played better than Barlow or Silvani this year.... no. I am not saying trade them for older players, but trade them for better players or draft picks. Borlow and Silvani type players will be out there and I am sure a few clubs would be interested in some of my list for draft picks.

You are comparing our 18-19 year olds to mature age recruits.

[WA Tiger]

Kids they might be Infamy but that doesnt mean we can't trade them for better kids or draft picks.

Sounds like a dog chasing it's tail to me.

Have another look at the names on the list, have any of them played better than Barlow or Silvani this year.... no. I am not saying trade them for older players, but trade them for better players or draft picks. Borlow and Silvani type players will be out there and I am sure a few clubs would be interested in some of my list for draft picks.

You are comparing our 18-19 year olds to mature age recruits.

In all honesty Infamy in the end if a good deal comes along involving any of those players we shouldn't expect the RFC to keep them regardless of age. If Collins, Edwards, Connors, Post etc.... can be traded for either better players (2 years older) or draft picks that will ensure we move forward as a club than I would as a supporter/member, expect them to trade.

It's only my opinion that list I made based on what I have seen of them players over the years and as of now.

[wayne]

It's only my opinion that list I made based on what I have seen of them players over the years and as of now.

I gave my thoughts on the list above, but I break it down to 3 categories.

1. Still too young to give up on; or
2. Completely worthless on the trade table; or
3. Morton = value. If the Hawks could get pick 16 for Mark Williams, we should expect the same or better for Morton.

Collins, Edwards, Farmer etc. might not turn out to be elite, but we need good reliable core players. To get that though, they need games pumped into them.

[WA Tiger]

It's only my opinion that list I made based on what I have seen of them players over the years and as of now.

I gave my thoughts on the list above, but I break it down to 3 categories.

1. Still too young to give up on; or
2. Completely worthless on the trade table; or
3. Morton = value. If the Hawks could get pick 16 for Mark Williams, we should expect the same or better for Morton.

Collins, Edwards, Farmer etc. might not turn out to be elite, but we need good reliable core players. To get that though, they need games pumped into them.

Great call on Morton Wayne could really get us something. I will reserve judgement on the other three as I don't want to come accross as bagging them, lets just hope there is further development left in the three you have mentioned. Too many times IMO we have hung onto these type of frindge dwellers and they become list cloggers. But in the end I will wait and see how the rest of the season unfolds. I just hope we don't fall in love with players that won't be in our finals team, the average Joe blow player and at the moment thats how I see these three... .

[tiger till i die]

Realistically! whats our chances of snatching him?

[wayne]

Morton dropped again.... might end up on the trade table??

[Ramps]

morton is just another half forward flanker thats all - if hardwick trades him its no big loss

[Penelope]

not too many half forward flankers kicked more goals than him last season.

[Ramps]

not too many half forward flankers kicked more goals than him last season.

thats true and thats one reason why youd consider a trade - hes actually worth something!