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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2010, 06:58:21 PM »
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B: Scott Selwood, Eric Mackenzie, Will Schofield
HB: Beau Waters, Beau Wilkes, Shannon Hurn
C: Andrew Embley, Matt Priddis, Bradd Dalziell
HF: Brad Sheppard, Josh Kennedy, Ben McKinley
F: Nic Naitanui, Mitchell Brown, Mark LeCras
Foll: Dean Cox, Brad Ebert, Tom Swift
I/C: Matt Rosa, Adam Selwood, Patrick McGinnity, Lewis Stevenson
Emg: Brett Jones, Quinten Lynch, Mark Nicoski

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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2010, 07:21:17 PM »
Not sure how they have been traveling but I am worried about Morton, I know they have said he is a big part of our future but gee it isn't looking that way at the moment.
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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2010, 07:26:41 PM »
Some week selections ...
Vickery shown nothing
Farmer shown very little
Astbury shown very little
Collins shown very little
Conners, when did this fruitloop become the messiah
Maybe that's the point
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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2010, 07:30:19 PM »
Some week selections ...
Vickery shown nothing
Farmer shown very little
Astbury shown very little
Collins shown very little
Conners, when did this fruitloop become the messiah
Maybe that's the point
Remember... development

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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2010, 10:20:38 PM »
this is the way i would have gone in a purely structural match up sense.to achieve this i dont know how many changes it would be. obviously form and other factors dictate the picked side but structurally i would be looking at the below side  just by looking at the opposition and saying well if need be i can go man on man
B   selwood 189/86 - mckenzie 196/94 - schofield 195/88.
     morton  186/80  - griffiths 199/98 - astbury 195/81

HB   waters 188/87  -   wilkes 194/97  -  hurn  186/96
       nason  - 179/75 -  riewoldt 193/89 - cotchin 184/85

C     embley 190/90   - priddis 184/84  - dalziel  184/82.
      newman  183/84  - martin 187/88  - collins  186/78

HF  sheppard 186/78 - kennedy 196/99  mckinlay 184/82
     deledio 188/88  -   post 195/89    -  moore 190/ 85

F    naitanui 201/95 - brown 194/95  -  lecras 182/82
     thursfield 191/85  gourdis 194/93   - connors 184/82

R    cox  204/102  -     ebert 188/85   - swift  191/85
      graham 201/100  - tuck 189/90  -   cousins 179/80

INT  rosa  189/82  -  s selwood  185/80  -  mcginnity 184/80  -  stevenson 185/80
      jackson 188/90 -  tambling  180/81 -   ******* -  ********
       
just an after thought they have plenty of poor kicks find a way to apply pressure to their players and the turn overs will come. its not often that i can actually say i think we are a better kicking side than the opposition well we would be with the above sides.

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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2010, 11:08:59 PM »
Vickery in is the wrong call, hope he has a blinder but Polak earned that spot

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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2010, 12:21:49 AM »
Some week selections ...
Vickery shown nothing
Farmer shown very little
Astbury shown very little
Collins shown very little
Conners, when did this fruitloop become the messiah
King was ok last week, but God I hope they dont give him laCras and who the hell runs with Kennedy, why didnt Gourdis get promoted, easly the best Physical match for him.
Stop Lacras and Kennedy, stop the Eagles, not rocket science, hope this new match commitee isnt as week as the last 4 years
No no Spock............... coaches pet (farmer) will get Lacras.
Agreed with most of your opinions here except you say Farmer has shown "very little". I think he's shown plenty.
he has shown he likes space and i mean lots of space.
he has shown he likes the uncontested ball.
he has shown he is very very scared.
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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2010, 08:23:19 AM »
good to see the trolls getting on so well
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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2010, 08:35:05 AM »
LOL  Al I think it's just broken records gettin stuck in the same rut
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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2010, 10:49:55 AM »
good to see the trolls getting on so well
Your opinion on these player selections Al
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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2010, 10:51:03 AM »
Aint it a biatch when the usual whipping boys are gone and you have to hunt up new ones

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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2010, 11:14:41 AM »
Vickery in is the wrong call, hope he has a blinder but Polak earned that spot

I agree Polak earned the spot but I dont think Vickery is the wrong call as far as going foward. To me they are doing it as a match up for the Future

Vickery V Natinui (however you spell it) could be a match up for the next 10 years and I think they should run Gus against Cox. These guys will learn heaps with these match ups even though they will probably get beaten.

As far  as farmer goes, well I dont think he has been as bad as some of you make out.

I do think Webberley was very very stiff though
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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2010, 11:21:35 AM »
Vickery in is the wrong call, hope he has a blinder but Polak earned that spot


Vickery V Natinui (however you spell it) could be a match up for the next 10 years and I think they should run Gus against Cox. These guys will learn heaps with these match ups even though they will probably get beaten.


When we were going to recruit Vickery I actually watched a lot of his tapes on the net. In the tapes he was pitted against Natinui heaps of times and during those games he killed him. He beat him in the air and on the ground, lets hope he can do that this time around!!
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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2010, 11:57:41 AM »
Vickery in is the wrong call, hope he has a blinder but Polak earned that spot


Vickery V Natinui (however you spell it) could be a match up for the next 10 years and I think they should run Gus against Cox. These guys will learn heaps with these match ups even though they will probably get beaten.


When we were going to recruit Vickery I actually watched a lot of his tapes on the net. In the tapes he was pitted against Natinui heaps of times and during those games he killed him. He beat him in the air and on the ground, lets hope he can do that this time around!!

I hope so too but I do believe that NN has progressed faster than Vickery and is ahead of him now. I realy hope that wont be the case in a year or so.
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Re: Team for Round 12
« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2010, 12:04:08 PM »
Vickery in is the wrong call, hope he has a blinder but Polak earned that spot

I agree Polak earned the spot but I dont think Vickery is the wrong call as far as going foward. To me they are doing it as a match up for the Future

Vickery V Natinui (however you spell it) could be a match up for the next 10 years and I think they should run Gus against Cox. These guys will learn heaps with these match ups even though they will probably get beaten.

As far  as farmer goes, well I dont think he has been as bad as some of you make out.

I do think Webberley was very very stiff though
webberly is probably doing penance for repeatedly bombing the ball without looking. I think he was still in wet weather mode from the previous week.

good to see the trolls getting on so well
Your opinion on these player selections Al
It's really to early to write most of them off, or by the same token claim them as champs.
But from what little I have seen of them;

Vickery can take a mark and showed a couple of times last year that he is not afraid to put his body on the line doing so. wore a couple of hurtfull hits to his back for his troubles. Around the ground his strength appears to be finding players in space by hand, but his footskills seem reasonable. Has at times looked a bit lost and I can see why some are saying he is not agressive enough. My thoughts were maybe needs a bit of time at coburg but the line of thinking about his match up on nic nat has merit.

Farmer: anyone saying he doesnt go hard needs to stop drinking while they watch the games. That is his best feature. I havnt seen him shirk an issue. does appear to be a tad slow but disposal seems pretty good. Appears as if he is still coming to terms with the pace of the game.

Astbury: If this kid can make the grade I think we will have a goodun. when he gets the ball he looks like a natural footballer and is good at ground level. While not getting loads of the footy it doesn't look like it is affecting confidence. Although a different mould to Jack, I had a similal thought when I first saw him. Just has to get the ball more and do it consistently. Hopefully, like Jack, that will come with time.

Collins. too be honest not sure what to make of him at the moment. against port i thought he was exceptionally quiet, but looking at the stats he had a fair 14 disposals with 12 tackles. Again against St kilda I barely noticed him.The good thing about not noticing him so much is that it means he isn't making glaring mistakes.

Connors: showed some signs before being suspended. Rather than sook and feel sorry for himself he has set about rectifying his problems. While not having seen any of the coburg games all reports and stats point to him responding in the best way possible.

King: Not a player i have a lot of time for and I normally have a soft spot for the triers. In saying that has been reasonably solid recently. Has definitely improved under Hardwick.

As for their selections this week; I'm not so presumptuous to think that from watchin a dozen or less games that I would know more about how these guys follow Hardwicks instruction than he does. Nor do I turn my ignorance about his decisions around to think he is the stupid one.

What is apparent is that Hardwick places a strong emphasis on both team and individual development, even if it is at the expense of the chances of winning games, for now. At the moment I'm happy to just sit back and enjoy the ride rather than second guessing him at every turn. If he thinks that it is best long term to play these guys now then so be it.

Perhaps you could elaborate a bit more on your own simple generalisations about these players and their selections, as well as coming up with alternatives and why the alternatives will be more beneficial long term?
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