Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26

[jackstar is back again]

well watch the Doco again, and see what Ben said about kevin and then what Kevin said about Ben going to melb and not being so bold.
Rewind the tape, its all there
kevin organised the meeting at the RFC after he Ben, and his dad had dinner in perth

[TigerLand]

Sorry Infamy that's extremely incorrect.

Global research will show you 90% of drug problems start in teenagers. It's not a common adult problem, unless its a on going problem that started as a youth.

Recreational drugs are party drugs, the club scene is littered with it. People don't take drugs on a Sunday Night watching the news.

Drugs are nearly always taken with alcohol which is a major cause of overdoses as well as physical attributes of the person.

"Most drugs" is extremely vague term to use. Cocaine, Ecstacy, Ice and Heroine are miles more addictive than alcohol. Caffeine and Tobacco are the only more addictive substances.

Drug problems are problems because over doses and deaths. Legalising use for addicts wont do a bit of help to the recreational scene where over doses are common.

Have you ever been to a House Music Festival Infamy?

[FNM]

well watch the Doco again, and see what Ben said about kevin and then what Kevin said about Ben going to melb and not being so bold.
Rewind the tape, its all there
kevin organised the meeting at the RFC after he Ben, and his dad had dinner in perth

Sheeds had all to gain but no responsibility if it turned out bad
Terry did!

[TigerLand]

Ive been pretty soft on Wallace compared to others.. but Terry STFU about drafting Ben being about saving his life.

Sorry but even Brian Cousins said that if he wasn't drafted he was convinced that Ben wouldn't be with us now and he's spoken of suicide

They're not going to legalise and tax drugs

They should. Drug addiction should be treated as a health issue not a criminal issue and while drugs are illegal people are always going to be ashamed and hide their addictions.

Doesn't stop the issue of drug taking. This only stops drug trafficking.

Neither does prohibition, people need to realise that you will never stop demand.

Maybe with education through time. I grew up in a generation that was smothered and drowned how bad smoking was and how smoking kills. Compare that to 20 years prior it was very different.

We can legalise drugs that can help cure addiction with live drug centers but this doesn't help the biggest problem where the addictions starts via getting first use of drugs to start with.

There is a difference between drug addiction and drug taking and recreational use.

[TigerLand]

Most overdoses in all drugs are caused by fluctuations in quality, legalising drugs would create a standard strength of substance which would stop this.

The highest percentage in overdose causes are the  of the quantity of the drug it is taken in, the amount of alcohol in system in conjunction with the drug.

I'll agree legal centers will help the stereotype addict on the street that scrambles the dole payments for his next hit. Legalising centres wont stop 1 single overdose on the party scene. Party drugs are taken to enhance a party. There is no party at a government center.

[Francois Jackson]

Sorry I dont agree.

1 problem is drug taking and constant drug abuse = addiction over time
2nd problem is drug experimentation and overdose on first use or recreational occasional use, mostly in youths.

Legalising drugs doesnt stop accidental overdosing which is a higher percentage of deaths than constant drug abuse overdose.

Absolute garbage, stop buying into government scare tactics. Most drugs are less addictive than alcohol and much less harmful to your body also. One of the biggest problems with prohibition is it has caused people to turn to cheap substitutes like GHB which causes most of the overdoses at the big dance parties.

Most overdoses in all drugs are caused by fluctuations in quality, legalising drugs would create a standard strength of substance which would stop this.

Honestly mate you have absolutely no idea if your saying poo like that. Legalise drugs so then we have 17 and 18 year olds walking the streets with Cocaine falling from their nostrels or smoking dope Amsterdam styles down at the local cafe. With the greatest respect your way out of our league here pal and not for the first time may i add.

Nixon and Overland are the biggest idiots going around thats all i know.
Nixon is prepared to waste our countries money helping mcguire follow ben around when we have big rave parties with 20,000 people walking in with their pockets lined up with goodies, some of whom are big time dealers. We should have cops searching every person and question them to find their source.

Look at the streets, Look at the city, look at how parents are too scared to give their kids a whack these days. Kids do anything these days because they know they can get away with it.

legalise Drugs... ive heard it all now;

[jackstar is back again]

well watch the Doco again, and see what Ben said about kevin and then what Kevin said about Ben going to melb and not being so bold.
Rewind the tape, its all there
kevin organised the meeting at the RFC after he Ben, and his dad had dinner in perth

Sheeds had all to gain but no responsibility if it turned out bad
Terry did!

Terry employed by Crocmedia- Hutchy these days, say no more

[FNM]

well watch the Doco again, and see what Ben said about kevin and then what Kevin said about Ben going to melb and not being so bold.
Rewind the tape, its all there
kevin organised the meeting at the RFC after he Ben, and his dad had dinner in perth

Sheeds had all to gain but no responsibility if it turned out bad
Terry did!

Terry employed by Crocmedia- Hutchy these days, say no more

He's allowed to work 

[Infamy]

Sorry Popelord but your "facts" are completely wrong
A commonly accepted scale of addiction for recreational substances has those more addictive than Alcohol as Ice, Heroin, Cocaine, Tobacco and then prescription Barbituates if you consider them recreational. Other scales have heroin and cocaine listed lower than alcohol but crack higher. Ecstacy on every scale is less addictive by 50-75% over alcohol, but also considered less harmful to your body.
The only PHYSICALLY addictive substances are Heroin, Alcohol, Tobacco & some prescription meds, everything else is psychological addiction
That's only the start of how wrong you are, seriously there's barely one correct comment in those posts


Daniel, explain how Portugal's decriminalisation of drugs has resulted in a drop of use in adults
You say I'm out of my league, but I can assure you I know far more on this topic than you.

[jackstar is back again]

well watch the Doco again, and see what Ben said about kevin and then what Kevin said about Ben going to melb and not being so bold.
Rewind the tape, its all there
kevin organised the meeting at the RFC after he Ben, and his dad had dinner in perth

Sheeds had all to gain but no responsibility if it turned out bad
Terry did!

Terry employed by Crocmedia- Hutchy these days, say no more

He's allowed to work 

Only person who would employ him was Hutchy

[jackstar is back again]

Sorry I dont agree.

1 problem is drug taking and constant drug abuse = addiction over time
2nd problem is drug experimentation and overdose on first use or recreational occasional use, mostly in youths.

Legalising drugs doesnt stop accidental overdosing which is a higher percentage of deaths than constant drug abuse overdose.

Absolute garbage, stop buying into government scare tactics. Most drugs are less addictive than alcohol and much less harmful to your body also. One of the biggest problems with prohibition is it has caused people to turn to cheap substitutes like GHB which causes most of the overdoses at the big dance parties.

Most overdoses in all drugs are caused by fluctuations in quality, legalising drugs would create a standard strength of substance which would stop this.

Honestly mate you have absolutely no idea if your saying poo like that. Legalise drugs so then we have 17 and 18 year olds walking the streets with Cocaine falling from their nostrels or smoking dope Amsterdam styles down at the local cafe. With the greatest respect your way out of our league here pal and not for the first time may i add.

Nixon and Overland are the biggest idiots going around thats all i know.
Nixon is prepared to waste our countries money helping mcguire follow ben around when we have big rave parties with 20,000 people walking in with their pockets lined up with goodies, some of whom are big time dealers. We should have cops searching every person and question them to find their source.

Look at the streets, Look at the city, look at how parents are too scared to give their kids a whack these days. Kids do anything these days because they know they can get away with it.

legalise Drugs... ive heard it all now;

agree.
should be like Bali.
our jails would be full

[Ramps]

Gary March should of gone on instead of Brendon IMHO.

[FNM]

well watch the Doco again, and see what Ben said about kevin and then what Kevin said about Ben going to melb and not being so bold.
Rewind the tape, its all there
kevin organised the meeting at the RFC after he Ben, and his dad had dinner in perth

Sheeds had all to gain but no responsibility if it turned out bad
Terry did!

Terry employed by Crocmedia- Hutchy these days, say no more

He's allowed to work 

Only person who would employ him was Hutchy

Well, most people only have one job at a time, so no need to look elsewhere 

[2JD]

Very interesting and insightful doco.
My very best wishes to Ben and his family, I hope everything turns out for the best in their futures
 

[mightytiges]

Seven would have wanted Benny Gale as he could kill two birds with one stone - CEO of the RFC and ex-head of the AFLPA.

More hard hitting tonight as far as what Cuz put his family through. Trying to leave the family home at 3am in search of drugs almost coming to blows and then dumping his father off at a bus shelter in his pyjamas midwinter showed how desperate an addict he had become. Ben is one lucky boy to have a dad and family as strong to cope with crap like that.

Selfishly from a Richmond perspective the Club has come out of this smelling like roses. Even Bryan Cousins admitted tonight he would've feared for Ben if he wasn't re-drafted back into football. Interesting that much of the past two years with us was only a small part at the end. No footage of the camera in the rooms before the NAB Cup game against Collingwood last year which caused a bit of fuss at the time. Hutchy on Nine and Mike on Seven still claiming there was more to Cuz ending up in hospital six weeks ago although Benny Gale told Mike the Club had nothing to doubt Ben's version.

During the ads I clicked over to the footy show and Sam was going off about Ben taking us all for a ride and he's claiming an addiction to make money. It might be wise to watch both parts of the doco before making an ignorant dill of yourself Sammy.

After seeing the doco tonight you can see Cuz had to retire. The AFL wouldn't be happy with him shaving out of fear of a possible positive test that tests history as far back as 3 months nor Ben saying the AFL were only interested in keeping up appearances (Ben coming across as "cured") when he applied to re-register with the AFL. Benny doesn't have to worry about "please explain" letters after Sunday. Saves the Club from the circus following the doco as well.