Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26

[Tigermonk]

wouldnot waste my veiwing time on this doco. its a money spinner

You sir are an idiot.

your a liar   

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BEN Cousins has been urged to dob in anyone who supplied him with drugs or who may have been dealing drugs.

West Australian police commissioner Karl O'Callaghan has urged Cousins to name the drug dealers from whom he may have sourced his supply.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ron-barassi-says-west-coast-has-a-lot-to-answer-for-over-ben-cousins/story-e6frf9jf-1225910237455

[Judge Roughneck]

I would have liked to see a close up of the white board behind hardwick

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Players key to Tigers landing Ben Cousins
Conor Ryan
Herald Sun
August 27, 2010

FORMER Richmond insider David King has claimed it was player power that got Ben Cousins to Punt Rd.

King said officials had decided to pass on Cousins before skipper Chris Newman led a player revolt on the night before the 2008 pre-season draft.

Richmond took Cousins in the draft, allowing the Brownlow medallist to reclaim his AFL career after he had been deregistered by the AFL at the end of 2007.

Former North Melbourne star King was an assistant coach during Terry Wallace's five-year reign as Richmond coach.

His comments on Cousins appeared to be aimed at his former boss.

Wallace this week spoke of humanitarian considerations getting Cousins across the line after St Kilda and Collingwood had passed on the disgraced Brownlow medallist.

"We sat around the board table and it was all over talkback radio and every Richmond supporter was having their say," Wallace said.

"I can remember telling the board, 'We're the last opportunity; St Kilda have said no, Collingwood have dropped out earlier on . . . and this is bigger than just a footy story.

"In six months time, if we don't go down this path and something terrible happens, do you actually sleep well at night?'

"Sometimes it's pushing yourself over an obligation and saying there's something you can do in life that may help."

King gave his version on Fox Sport's AFL 360.

"I hear a lot of different things about people taking credit for different things along the way," King said.

"I remember sitting in on a meeting - this is the fair dinkum truth - the day before the draft.

"The players were called into an area with the footy staff and we were told that he wasn't going to be coming to Richmond Football Club.

"Then 24 hours later, because of the campaigning of the playing group, via the captain Chris Newman - and they fronted the coach over an eight-hour period and phone calls here and there that night - they read out 'pick 6, Ben Cousins'."

Wallace yesterday said Richmond officials were aware Cousins was using illicit drugs in 2008 - and that Cousins had admitted using drugs within days of an initial meeting.

The Eagles premiership player has admitted abusing cocaine, ice and amphetamines in Such Is Life - The Ben Cousins Story which has aired on Seven in the past two nights.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/players-key-to-tigers-landing-ben-cousins/story-e6frf9jf-1225910645662

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Ben Cousin's father Bryan feared his son's life would be lost to drugs
Nathan Mawby
Herald Sun
August 27, 2010

BEN Cousins' father feared his son would die at the peak of his drug addiction.

Part two of the documentary revealed Cousins' drug abuse was so bad he almost came to blows with his father, who was so worried about his son he went with him to get drugs.

The revelations follow calls from the West Australian police commissioner for Ben Cousins to name and shame his drug dealers if he is truly remorseful. The comments from Karl O'Callaghan came amid the furore over the Brownlow medallist's controversial doco, Such Is Life.

Are we better off after the Cousins tell-all documentary? Have your say below

The second half of the doco also revealed Cousins' father, Bryan, believed his son would die, but didn't know how to help him.

"I knew we were dealing with a potentially life and death situation," Bryan Cousins said. "I thought, if I get this wrong, we could lose him."

Bryan also revealed a harrowing early morning incident in which he feared being attacked by his son.

Click here to replay the blog with drug expert Paul Dillon

The family tried to stop him from going to get drugs, but in the end nothing could deter him. "He said 'If I want to go, you can't stop me'," Bryan said. "I traded off and said that I would go with him."

Soon after, he was dumped at a bus stop in his pyjamas, with no shoes and no phone, in the cold.

Despite the trauma endured by Cousins' family, WA police have ruled out probing the drug use seen in the doco, but Victoria Police will investigate if it's revealed Cousins used drugs in this state.

Cousins also admits in the documentary he'll be an addict for life.

AFL spokesman Brian Walsh said the league now acknowledged this, but felt he'd now reached a more positive place.

"He has shown that with the support of a loving family, appropriate counselling and treatment and an opportunity to return to work, he has been able to confront his addiction," Mr Walsh said.

"He will live with that addiction all his life but he's proved he can stay drug-free and I think with that ongoing support he can ... live a productive life, whether he stays in the football industry or not."

Football legend Ron Barassi, youth worker Les Twentyman and Bulldogs champion Doug Hawkins all raised questions about West Coast's knowledge of Cousins' drug taking.

Former Richmond coach Terry Wallace said the Tigers knew Cousins was still using illegal drugs when they recruited him in November 2008. "His answer was he had (taken drugs) within days of speaking to us," he told 3AW.

Mr O'Callaghan said Cousins should dob in dealers if he wanted to stop the scourge of drugs.

Former Carlton champ Anthony Koutoufides said Cousins should tell how he hid his drug use.

"I think the AFL needs to know how he got away with it because it's not good for them," he said.

Twentyman slammed the documentary, saying it showed Hollywood-style drug use. "That's not the reality (of) what we deal with. It destroys lives. Ben's life hasn't been destroyed," he said.

AFL football operations manager Adrian Anderson said the extent of Cousins' drug problem wasn't revealed until he failed to turn up to a test in early 2007.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ben-cousins-father-bryan-feared-his-sons-life-would-be-lost-to-drugs/story-e6frf9jf-1225910633779

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Seven would have wanted Benny Gale as he could kill two birds with one stone - CEO of the RFC and ex-head of the AFLPA.

More hard hitting tonight as far as what Cuz put his family through. Trying to leave the family home at 3am in search of drugs almost coming to blows and then dumping his father off at a bus shelter in his pyjamas midwinter showed how desperate an addict he had become. Ben is one lucky boy to have a dad and family as strong to cope with crap like that.

Selfishly from a Richmond perspective the Club has come out of this smelling like roses. Even Bryan Cousins admitted tonight he would've feared for Ben if he wasn't re-drafted back into football. Interesting that much of the past two years with us was only a small part at the end. No footage of the camera in the rooms before the NAB Cup game against Collingwood last year which caused a bit of fuss at the time. Hutchy on Nine and Mike on Seven still claiming there was more to Cuz ending up in hospital six weeks ago although Benny Gale told Mike the Club had nothing to doubt Ben's version.

During the ads I clicked over to the footy show and Sam was going off about Ben taking us all for a ride and he's claiming an addiction to make money. It might be wise to watch both parts of the doco before making an ignorant dill of yourself Sammy.

After seeing the doco tonight you can see Cuz had to retire. The AFL wouldn't be happy with him shaving out of fear of a possible positive test that tests history as far back as 3 months nor Ben saying the AFL were only interested in keeping up appearances (Ben coming across as "cured") when he applied to re-register with the AFL. Benny doesn't have to worry about "please explain" letters after Sunday. Saves the Club from the circus following the doco as well.

agree.
there was more to the hosiptal visit 6 weeks ago. Mike is on the right track there
The doco didnt hide that there could be relaspes nor did they touch on the pre season visit to the Epworth either.
good on Ben, great doco
Lets hope the tiges win and he plays on sunday

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well watch the Doco again, and see what Ben said about kevin and then what Kevin said about Ben going to melb and not being so bold.
Rewind the tape, its all there
kevin organised the meeting at the RFC after he Ben, and his dad had dinner in perth

Sheeds had all to gain but no responsibility if it turned out bad
Terry did!

Read David Kings article today, club didnt want to take him.
King has a decent whack at the tanned one, claiming it was the player group who wanted the Cuz and forced the issue

[FNM]

well watch the Doco again, and see what Ben said about kevin and then what Kevin said about Ben going to melb and not being so bold.
Rewind the tape, its all there
kevin organised the meeting at the RFC after he Ben, and his dad had dinner in perth

Sheeds had all to gain but no responsibility if it turned out bad
Terry did!

Read David Kings article today, club didnt want to take him.
King has a decent whack at the tanned one, claiming it was the player group who wanted the Cuz and forced the issue

So the players had the final say did they?
I think not!  Terry still had to say yes or don't they count the coach's opinion?
Look at the documentary again yourself, Terry said that he for one couldn't live with the consequences had they not drafted him if Ben had gone off the rails.
Unlike you, Terry has some compassion!

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LOL, Terry Wallet
Read todays whack from David King.

[FNM]

LOL, Terry Wallet
Read todays whack from David King.

David Who? 

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David King, Current AFL coaching inductee course, Current coach of private school Carey Grammar.

[WilliamPowell]

Look WP, pointless arguing with you, could tell you something but wont.

Gee wiz you forgot one of these 

And BTW you'd be surprised at who I've spoken to about this which I suppose means I could tell you something 

I watched the doco - all of it

I'll repeat it for the final time!

I am not disputing that one K Sheey instigated contact with one B. Cousins and the RFC... the doco proved that.. I have agreed with that from day 1

However, You have said form day 1 that one K Sheedy and K Sheedy alone got one B Cousins to the RFC, Sheedy was the only reason that Cousins is at the RFC- that's what you've been sprouting for 18+ months except for the last 2 days where you've have changed your view to he instigated it

That is absolute CRAP not a doubt in my mind that Sheedy did not get Cousins to the RFC all by himself and that's always been my argument....

[FNM]

David King, Current AFL coaching inductee course, Current coach of private school Carey Grammar.

Oh yes, one of the ones you wanted gone from Richmond last year
Clearly not credible in your eyes then, so why now?

[WilliamPowell]

After seeing the doco tonight you can see Cuz had to retire. The AFL wouldn't be happy with him shaving out of fear of a possible positive test that tests history as far back as 3 months nor Ben saying the AFL were only interested in keeping up appearances (Ben coming across as "cured") when he applied to re-register with the AFL. Benny doesn't have to worry about "please explain" letters after Sunday. Saves the Club from the circus following the doco as well.

The shaving of the hair episode was when he was trying to get re-registered back in 2008 - had nothing to do with what went on a few months back. Wasn't it?

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Look WP, pointless arguing with you, could tell you something but wont.

Gee wiz you forgot one of these 

And BTW you'd be surprised at who I've spoken to about this which I suppose means I could tell you something 

I watched the doco - all of it

I'll repeat it for the final time!

I am not disputing that one K Sheey instigated contact with one B. Cousins and the RFC... the doco proved that.. I have agreed with that from day 1

However, You have said form day 1 that one K Sheedy and K Sheedy alone got one B Cousins to the RFC, Sheedy was the only reason that Cousins is at the RFC- that's what you've been sprouting for 18+ months except for the last 2 days where you've have changed your view to he instigated it

That is absolute CRAP not a doubt in my mind that Sheedy did not get Cousins to the RFC all by himself and that's always been my argument....

Yes i said from day one this.
That K sheedy rang wallace on several occasions.
didnt return the calls.
He then rang Craig Cameron.
Kevin suggetsed to the RFC that they should talk to Ben after his initial meeting with ben and his dad.
the rest is history as shown on the doco with the interview with kevin.
Mind you Kevin did approach people on the board with his views at the time
get over it WP