Bachar Houli [merged]

[one-eyed]

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2019-07-26/round-19-bachar-on-200th-game

[Slipper]

Well done Bachar

And thanks for gifting him to us Bombers.

[Andyy]

Good game. Despite his knocks on defensive ability he really is important for our rebounding, and similar to Grigg I think he is highly rated internally as a contributor to our current cultural standing.

[big tone]

Credit where credit is due- he was awesome last night.

I was really impressed.

[Willy]

Despite his weaknesses, he would walk into every other team in the comp.

[one-eyed]

Bachar not only had 32 possies but also 629m gained  .

"Bachar Houli with 629 metres gained helped by his 21 kicks and two running bounces."

https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2019/20/melb-v-rich#/summary

[one-eyed]

Bachar Houli continued his fine form on Saturday night, finishing with 32 disposals, five rebound-50s, three inside-50s, seven marks, four tackles and 523 metres gained.

Houli, at 31 years and three months of age, and the oldest player on Richmond’s list, is averaging 28.3 disposals, 6.3 marks and 4.9 rebound-50s.

He is ranked second in the competition for bounces per game, sixth for uncontested possessions per game and seventh for metres gained per game.

“Maybe just the mentality of just wanting to enjoy every moment that I’ve got. I don’t know how long I’ve got left,” Houli said.

“I play amongst a great group, who are very well connected and look after me every time I run past.”

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-08-05/houli-a-golden-oldie

[big tone]

Bachar Houli continued his fine form on Saturday night, finishing with 32 disposals, five rebound-50s, three inside-50s, seven marks, four tackles and 523 metres gained.

Houli, at 31 years and three months of age, and the oldest player on Richmond’s list, is averaging 28.3 disposals, 6.3 marks and 4.9 rebound-50s.

He is ranked second in the competition for bounces per game, sixth for uncontested possessions per game and seventh for metres gained per game.

“Maybe just the mentality of just wanting to enjoy every moment that I’ve got. I don’t know how long I’ve got left,” Houli said.

“I play amongst a great group, who are very well connected and look after me every time I run past.”

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-08-05/houli-a-golden-oldie

6th for uncontested possessions in the AFL and he is a backman. I’m not sure that is the stat you would want as a backman.
Put him on the wing and get rid of Bellis and see if he can do any damage there.

[Tiger Khosh]

BT go have a look at the leaders for uncontested possessions this season. It’s literally the whose who of half back flankers and wingman. It’s a massive part of a half back flankers role to provide outside run and rebound so their uncontested possession count is always going to be inflated.

The man is having a great season, think you’re being way too harsh on his thread.

[Chuck17]

he hasnt moved on from game play 30 years ago unfortunately

[Andyy]

Houli is in career best form I think. Has never been a contested ball specialist. He provides rebound and is doing that incredibly well. He was recruited for this in the first place!

I think it's too much having him AND Short in the same backline. One of them needs to move up, or Houli needs to wind down. Elsewise our mid defenders are doing a good job on the smalls, Broad and Grimes especially.

[big tone]

BT go have a look at the leaders for uncontested possessions this season. It’s literally the whose who of half back flankers and wingman. It’s a massive part of a half back flankers role to provide outside run and rebound so their uncontested possession count is always going to be inflated.

The man is having a great season, think you’re being way too harsh on his thread.

I reckon if you are going to use a stat for your argument you should probably put it up.
Who are the “whose who” of HBF and wingman?
And for the record, wingman should probably be at the top of the list, HBF not so much.
A combination of contested and uncontested possessions is probably more fitting of a HBF.

[big tone]

Houli is in career best form I think. Has never been a contested ball specialist. He provides rebound and is doing that incredibly well. He was recruited for this in the first place!

I think it's too much having him AND Short in the same backline. One of them needs to move up, or Houli needs to wind down. Elsewise our mid defenders are doing a good job on the smalls, Broad and Grimes especially.

What I remember is Houli was recruited as a wingman/onballer, the HBF came later.

But I do agree we cannot beat the good teams in big finals with both Short and Houli in the same backline.
Over the past month, HFF from other sides have kicked goals against us (Frisch, Hill the first gamer from GWS and Port had a couple of HFF that kicked a few from memory Butters and someone else)

Our medium talls in Grimes, Broad and Vlastuin can only cover those guys so much.

I would move Stack back to HB and play Edwards there too. Both would give you a better contest and both can find the footy and give us rebound.
We need to make it harder for teams to score against us. IMO teams get easy goals against us.

[Tiger Khosh]

Ok how about lachie Whitfield all Australian half back flanker from last season ranked second.

Jake Lloyd probably all australian this year ranked third.

Rory Laird all Australian half back flanker/back pocket the past 2 years ranked 7th.

When you constantly bring up small forwards and the goals they kicked in a game and put that on houli you sound like all those people that would see a key forward kick a bag and put it down to Alex rance. Defences aren’t based around 1 on 1 match ups anymore, when a player kicks a bag it’s a failure of the entire defensive structure.

Edwards and Stack have played many matches in defence this year, why don’t you go back and look at who kicked the goals in those games or were all those houlis fault too?

[Willy]

Ok how about lachie Whitfield all Australian half back flanker from last season ranked second.

Jake Lloyd probably all australian this year ranked third.

Rory Laird all Australian half back flanker/back pocket the past 2 years ranked 7th.

When you constantly bring up small forwards and the goals they kicked in a game and put that on houli you sound like all those people that would see a key forward kick a bag and put it down to Alex rance. Defences aren’t based around 1 on 1 match ups anymore, when a player kicks a bag it’s a failure of the entire defensive structure.

Edwards and Stack have played many matches in defence this year, why don’t you go back and look at who kicked the goals in those games or were all those houlis fault too?

Nailed it.