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Re: Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3990 on: November 16, 2017, 06:12:03 PM »
Another pollie off to the High Court.




The Greens are seeking fresh legal advice about the eligibility of their newly installed Senator Andrew Bartlett.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-16/greens-senator-andrew-bartlett-faces-questions-over-eligibility/9155838


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Re: Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3991 on: November 21, 2017, 12:31:56 AM »
A Coalition MP says he will quit the Turnbull Government next month, plunging it into minority government. The MP said tonight  he will stay only if Malcolm Turnbull is replaced as Prime Minister by a leader who can appeal to conservative voters.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/coalition-mp-turnbull-must-be-sacked-or-ill-quit/news-story/fb2970ec7fad76e6a4aa57c8c9ac4c3a

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Re: Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3992 on: November 21, 2017, 06:56:11 AM »
A Coalition MP says he will quit the Turnbull Government next month, plunging it into minority government. The MP said tonight  he will stay only if Malcolm Turnbull is replaced as Prime Minister by a leader who can appeal to conservative voters.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/coalition-mp-turnbull-must-be-sacked-or-ill-quit/news-story/fb2970ec7fad76e6a4aa57c8c9ac4c3a

So Mr Abbott's number 1 fan, Andrew Bolt doesn't name this mystery MP?
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« Reply #3993 on: November 22, 2017, 01:19:34 AM »
A Coalition MP says he will quit the Turnbull Government next month, plunging it into minority government. The MP said tonight  he will stay only if Malcolm Turnbull is replaced as Prime Minister by a leader who can appeal to conservative voters.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/coalition-mp-turnbull-must-be-sacked-or-ill-quit/news-story/fb2970ec7fad76e6a4aa57c8c9ac4c3a

So Mr Abbott's number 1 fan, Andrew Bolt doesn't name this mystery MP?
No doubt Bolt isn't a reliable source when it comes to facts [understatement] but he was claiming last night he isn't naming this MP because the MP may bail out of quitting if named.

It's a bit hard to bail out of something like this in politics if you're named :huh3.

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Re: Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3994 on: November 22, 2017, 04:42:05 PM »

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« Reply #3995 on: November 26, 2017, 05:43:55 AM »
So much for the One Nation loonies holding the balance of power in Queensland. They've now thankfully flopped in both Qld & WA state elections.
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Re: Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3996 on: December 07, 2017, 06:24:24 PM »
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-07/same-sex-marriage-bill-passes-house-of-representatives/9235560



Glad it's finally done but the pollies should have done their job in the first place rather than spending $122m on a postal survey to tell us what we already knew.



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« Reply #3997 on: December 08, 2017, 06:51:54 AM »

Glad it's finally done but the pollies should have done their job in the first place rather than spending $122m on a postal survey to tell us what we already knew.

 :clapping

And no surprise to see certain pollies not even bothering to show up in chamber to vote
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« Reply #3998 on: December 09, 2017, 02:38:35 AM »

Glad it's finally done but the pollies should have done their job in the first place rather than spending $122m on a postal survey to tell us what we already knew.

 :clapping

And no surprise to see certain pollies not even bothering to show up in chamber to vote
Conveniently, they abstained to avoid any official record being kept of who voted for what. Not only out of touch with modern Australia but two-faced cowards too ::)



Who abstained from the same-sex marriage vote?

    Barnaby Joyce (Nationals)
    Tony Abbott (Liberals)
    Andrew Hastie (Liberals)
    Michael Sukkar (Liberals)
    Kevin Andrews (Liberals)
    Scott Morrison (Liberals)
    George Christensen (LNP)
    Rick Wilson (Liberals)
    Stuart Robert (Liberals)

What about no votes?

    Bob Katter (independent)
    Russell Broadbent (Liberal)
    Keith Pitt (Nationals)
    David Littleproud (Nationals)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-08/same-sex-marriage-who-didnt-vote/9240584
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Re: Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3999 on: December 09, 2017, 08:10:17 AM »

Glad it's finally done but the pollies should have done their job in the first place rather than spending $122m on a postal survey to tell us what we already knew.

 :clapping

And no surprise to see certain pollies not even bothering to show up in chamber to vote
Conveniently, they abstained to avoid any official record being kept of who voted for what. Not only out of touch with modern Australia but two-faced cowards too ::)



Who abstained from the same-sex marriage vote?

    Barnaby Joyce (Nationals)
    Tony Abbott (Liberals)
    Andrew Hastie (Liberals)
    Michael Sukkar (Liberals)
    Kevin Andrews (Liberals)
    Scott Morrison (Liberals)
    George Christensen (LNP)
    Rick Wilson (Liberals)
    Stuart Robert (Liberals)

What about no votes?

    Bob Katter (independent)
    Russell Broadbent (Liberal)
    Keith Pitt (Nationals)
    David Littleproud (Nationals)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-08/same-sex-marriage-who-didnt-vote/9240584

As far as I was aware it was a conscience vote that entitled them to vote or not according to how their conscience told them so.

I think if they all voted yes I would be more concerned as a portion would have done so just so they were on record of the winning side.

I for one am glad it went to open public vote as it wasn't the lay down misere being put forward.


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Re: Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #4000 on: December 11, 2017, 09:58:58 PM »
Abbott the religious nut didnít have the balls to vote no, which he desperately wanted to

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Re: Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #4001 on: December 16, 2017, 04:42:03 PM »

Glad it's finally done but the pollies should have done their job in the first place rather than spending $122m on a postal survey to tell us what we already knew.

 :clapping

And no surprise to see certain pollies not even bothering to show up in chamber to vote
Conveniently, they abstained to avoid any official record being kept of who voted for what. Not only out of touch with modern Australia but two-faced cowards too ::)



Who abstained from the same-sex marriage vote?

    Barnaby Joyce (Nationals)
    Tony Abbott (Liberals)
    Andrew Hastie (Liberals)
    Michael Sukkar (Liberals)
    Kevin Andrews (Liberals)
    Scott Morrison (Liberals)
    George Christensen (LNP)
    Rick Wilson (Liberals)
    Stuart Robert (Liberals)

What about no votes?

    Bob Katter (independent)
    Russell Broadbent (Liberal)
    Keith Pitt (Nationals)
    David Littleproud (Nationals)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-08/same-sex-marriage-who-didnt-vote/9240584

As far as I was aware it was a conscience vote that entitled them to vote or not according to how their conscience told them so.

I think if they all voted yes I would be more concerned as a portion would have done so just so they were on record of the winning side.

I for one am glad it went to open public vote as it wasn't the lay down misere being put forward.
Except they didn't vote with their conscience based on their public rhetoric previously. Instead they chickened out by abstaining because it was more politically convenient to do so. They didn't want themselves recorded as being so out of sync with the electorate.

There are times when a open public vote is necessary. For example, a referendum on constitutional change which is required by law or an issue that polling says could go either way. However, SSM wasn't one of these as public polling over a long period of time showed strong support in favour of it (60%+ for and barely half of that against). It wasn't as though it was 50/50 within polling error margins (eg: 53-47). The whole point of polling is to sample the population to determine the overall public's view. When there's clear 60%+ support for something, you don't go and waste $122m to prove the polling is correct.
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Re: Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #4002 on: December 17, 2017, 12:23:02 PM »
I don't pay any attention to polls, seems the only thing they do is replace the prime ministers we vote in

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« Reply #4003 on: December 18, 2017, 07:36:40 AM »
I don't pay any attention to polls, seems the only thing they do is replace the prime ministers we vote in
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