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[Rampsation]

The Age is anothe socialist rag.

[Tigeritis™©®]

Somebody else thinks Scotty from Marketing is incompetent.


https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/complacent-government-delivers-early-shock-therapy-to-prepare-public-for-cuts-20200723-p55ew1.html



Sorry, but this is the economic statement of a government that’s complacent about controlling the coronavirus and about getting a million unemployed people back to work. It sees its job as largely done. Now it’s time to quickly wind back its spending on supporting the economy and call for the bill.


You can tell Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Treasurer Josh Frydenberg decided this before the extent of the setbacks in Victoria and NSW became fully apparent. They have assumed that after the six-week lockdown in Melbourne, everything will be fine again.

All this hatred for Scomo but not one critical word to say about DanTheMan and his handling of the hotels security fiasco that is the actual cause of this second wave in Victoria? 

Now that we have had deaths in Victoria of people contracting Covid 19 because of this second wave, will anyone on this forum that generally supports Labor say anything about how DanTheMan has royally stuffed up and because it has resulted in deaths?

I’ve heard nothing from any of you labor cheerleaders.

What do you think of the performance of DanTheMan  ‘65?
How has he performed during this period?
Do you think he should resign?

[1965]

More political corruption this time in SA.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-26/three-sa-ministers-step-down-amid-state-expenses-scandal/12493060


Three South Australian ministers and the state's Legislative Council President have resigned over the State Government's expenses saga.

[Francois Jackson]

meanwhile andrews and his mates continue to put people in coffins and steal from the public

what a bunch of crooks

[Francois Jackson]

Somebody else thinks Scotty from Marketing is incompetent.


https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/complacent-government-delivers-early-shock-therapy-to-prepare-public-for-cuts-20200723-p55ew1.html



Sorry, but this is the economic statement of a government that’s complacent about controlling the coronavirus and about getting a million unemployed people back to work. It sees its job as largely done. Now it’s time to quickly wind back its spending on supporting the economy and call for the bill.


You can tell Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Treasurer Josh Frydenberg decided this before the extent of the setbacks in Victoria and NSW became fully apparent. They have assumed that after the six-week lockdown in Melbourne, everything will be fine again.

All this hatred for Scomo but not one critical word to say about DanTheMan and his handling of the hotels security fiasco that is the actual cause of this second wave in Victoria? 

Now that we have had deaths in Victoria of people contracting Covid 19 because of this second wave, will anyone on this forum that generally supports Labor say anything about how DanTheMan has royally stuffed up and because it has resulted in deaths?

I’ve heard nothing from any of you labor cheerleaders.

What do you think of the performance of DanTheMan  ‘65?
How has he performed during this period?
Do you think he should resign?

haha come on Tigeritis, havent you learnt by now? il answer on their behalf Tigeritis because they have gone missing, which is better than admitting the following.

"I have nothing to say because i was wrong, Dan is a fraud, a crook and will go down as the worst premier this state has ever seen. Thats if if you count deaths by way of incompetence on a scale never seen before, and making deals with China as major issues.
"i was wrong in defending him in the adem somyurek affair. This was after Dan brought him back into the party after Adem assaulted a female member of the alp, then another member of his staff"
"I was wrong in defending the alp because they themselves were once again involved in corruption. No biggy though they all do it so lets just rank deception and see who comes out on top.
"I was wrong because i said Scomo was worse than Abbott, and certainly not as great as dan the man.
"I was wrong when i paid out on Scomo and his crew for the first Q of 2020, for having a few days off, waving his hands in church and considering going to a rugby beach"
"I was wrong in going the early crow and stating dan was doing a great job, all before he told scomo he didnt ADF help as it would have meant his union mates didnt get paid"
"I have nothing to say because you know BLM matter and my old mate Dan only let us know it was a bad decision late in the week as you know he probably enjoyed the build up and the BLM cause."
Finally, i was wrong and scomo aint that bad, but give it a month or 2. I will be back when he has screwed something up and pick up where we left off. When that happens i will dismiss the errors made by the alp which once again has resulted in unfortunate deaths.

think that covers off everything Tiger.

[1965]

God help us all.


https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/treasurer-s-inspiration-from-thatcher-reagan-has-merit-economists-20200726-p55fkv.html


The inspiration Treasurer Josh Frydenberg draws from Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan will scare Australian workers according to Labor, but some business leaders and economists argue policies championed by conservative leaders are not without merit.

[1965]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-27/economic-reform-must-improve-lives-of-all-australians/12493668


Half a century of "trickle-down economics" has seen wealth flourish at the top, graphically illustrated last week when Tesla founder Elon Musk secured a $US2.1 billion ($2.93 billion) bonus just as the ranks of America's unemployed swelled to 30 million.
While Australia remains a far more egalitarian society, several million, through no fault of their own, suddenly have found themselves being supported by the state for the first time.
Their lives have been thrown into turmoil.
Their future, and that of their families, is deeply uncertain.
The idea they will willingly embrace a push for lower wages and greater employment uncertainty, or flexibility as it euphemistically is called, at the next election is the stuff of pure fantasy.

[1965]

Those tax cuts (for the rich)

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/trickle-down-fantasy-stimulus-tax-cuts-face-fresh-attack-as-28b-cost-revealed-20200726-p55fiz.html



Faster tax cuts for millions of workers would cost up to $28 billion over the next three years, according to a parliamentary analysis that escalates a row over whether the Morrison government should embrace the plan.


The tax cuts would cost at least $12 billion in their first year if the government acted on Liberal calls to bring forward the changes to lift economic growth.



Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has confirmed the moves are on the agenda for the federal budget due in October, saying they could help improve household spending at a time when aggregate demand is under pressure.


Mr Frydenberg said he took inspiration from former United States president Ronald Reagan and former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, telling the ABC's Insiders on Sunday they "cut red tape and cut taxes and delivered stronger economies".


The analysis – prepared by the Parliamentary Budget Office at the request of the Greens – offers the first detail on the likely cost of the contentious plan. The Greens are calling for the money to be spent on people without jobs or on stimulus measures such as social housing.

[Rampsation]

Cuts tax should be limited. Negative gearing should be abolished beyond a 2nd property investment, ie you can negative gear up to 2 properties then no more, middle class welfare should be slashed and hand outs to new migrants should be stopped. Dole bludgers who have been on the dole for 3 consecutive years should have there benefits stopped and the ABC should be privatised to raise money for the govt. Morrison is a great leader.

[1965]

You make several good points. Don't agree with the last statement. 😁

[Assange Tiger 😎]

How do you define a dole bludger, Rampsy? I'd agree with stopping payments for those who are proven to be rorting the system but believe it or not, there are those on the Government teet who are actually having a go but having no luck for a number of reasons. Tough one imo.

[Diocletian]

If ya can't feed 'em don't breed 'em...

[1965]

We have a massive problem in Victoria's Aged care system. Currently 60% of COVID-19 deaths are in this sector.
What we needed was better funding and tighter regulation.
And guess who is responsible for that. Scotty from Marketing.


Interesting article


https://www.theage.com.au/world/oceania/ardern-s-40th-birthday-present-sky-high-polls-20200727-p55fse.html


The Morrison government’s "take the credit/deflect blame’ shtick is wearing thin. After all, the Commonwealth has ultimate responsibility for Australia’s border security – spelt out in the constitution, Quarantine Act (1908) and Biosecurity Act (2015).

A global pandemic ought to have demanded hyper-stringent oversight of returning citizens – especially once COVID became a ‘known event’ – and a far lengthier period of quarantine. Divisive rhetoric aside, Morrison’s political hero, John Howard, was right to assert in 2001 that “we decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come”. It begs the question, however: why didn’t this rule apply to infected returnees or stopping that one, all-important boat?


Then there is private aged care – unquestionably the regulatory domain of the Commonwealth. The crisis playing out in the sector is the direct result of operators prioritising profits ahead of health and safety – of elderly residents and staff. Here and across our economy the chickens of insecure employment have come home to roost. Possibly contagious casual workers are going to work because, in the absence of sick leave, they believe there is no other choice for their families. COVID is many things, yet with workplace transmissions accounting for 80 per cent of all cases, this pandemic is a workplace virus, hurting the poor, especially migrants.
Again, this is a Commonwealth responsibility. It is jarring to hear Frydenberg talk up workplace deregulation as “first cab off the rank”, while the health and economic imperative of paid pandemic leave for isolating workers sits in the too hard basket. By contrast, the Victorian government is providing payments to insecurely employed workers forced to self-quarantine after testing positive for COVID or close contacts of a confirmed case, and workers awaiting results without access to paid leave.

[Francois Jackson]

all roads lead to one disgraceful man and his team of misfits. Listen to the inquiry footage. We all know where it started and now they do also.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/public-servants-were-pulled-from-overseeing-hotel-quarantine-over-safety-fears-20200727-p55fvk.html?fbclid=IwAR39BgE7AcdYYJ_Nalf9PgE5Dk2MyMigOBrApJLd4g_esmW6jTw7CJ55AM4#comments

[1965]

all roads lead to one disgraceful man and his team of misfits. Listen to the inquiry footage. We all know where it started and now they do also.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/public-servants-were-pulled-from-overseeing-hotel-quarantine-over-safety-fears-20200727-p55fvk.html?fbclid=IwAR39BgE7AcdYYJ_Nalf9PgE5Dk2MyMigOBrApJLd4g_esmW6jTw7CJ55AM4#comments

Did you actually read this article?