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« Reply #3015 on: January 24, 2015, 11:41:01 AM »
God I hope the Libs lose Queensland and Newman loses his seat.

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Queensland election 2015: Latest Newspoll reveals swing up to 13 per cent in key LNP seats

Sat 24 Jan 2015, 11:12am

A swing of up to 13 per cent in key Liberal National Party-held seats in Queensland has been revealed in the latest Newspoll survey.

The poll of 608 voters, published in today's Australian newspaper, was taken in the electorates of Cairns, in the far north, Ipswich West, 40km outside of Brisbane, and Keppel, near Rockhampton, earlier this week.

The poll found in those three seats, Labor's primary vote had jumped 16 points to 47 per cent, with the LNP's vote collapsing more than eight points to 43.5 per cent.

On a two-party preferred basis, Labor led the LNP 56 per cent to 44 per cent - a swing of 13 per cent.

The Australian said if the support remained unchanged until election day, Ipswich West, held on a margin of 7.2 per cent and Keppel, held on 6.4 per cent, would almost certainly fall to Labor.

Cairns, on 8.9 per cent, would be a tight contest.

Forty-six per cent of people said Opposition Leader Annastacia Palaszczuk would make the better premier, compared to Campbell Newman, who polled 36 per cent.

When asked about Mr Newman's performance as Premier, 60 per cent said they were dissatisfied and 32 per cent were satisfied.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-24/queensland-election-2015-latest-newspoll-reveals-swing-up/6044122
Yeah we're already going to vote for him mate, you don't need to keep selling it.....

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« Reply #3016 on: January 24, 2015, 11:46:35 AM »
I think it is evident right across the planet that one term governments might end up becoming the norm.It seems people have had enough of politicians and their neglect of their constituents.all they are interested in is getting elected.
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« Reply #3017 on: January 24, 2015, 05:35:14 PM »
I think it is evident right across the planet that one term governments might end up becoming the norm.It seems people have had enough of politicians and their neglect of their constituents.all they are interested in is getting elected.
The world is lacking leaders with vision

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« Reply #3018 on: January 28, 2015, 04:10:32 PM »
"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good...."

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« Reply #3019 on: January 29, 2015, 05:54:02 AM »

What a mess poor old Tony has got himself into.


Pressure mounts on Tony Abbott to dump Peta Credlin
 
Date January 28, 2015 - 6:50PM 

Mark Kenny and Heath Aston
   
Pressure is mounting on Prime Minister Tony Abbott to dump chief of staff Peta Credlin as disgruntled Liberal MPs were joined on Wednesday by conservative commentators including media baron Rupert Murdoch in expressing concerns about his office.

Former Coalition prime minister John Howard is also understood to have carried growing party-room concerns to Mr Abbott over the way his office is run under her management.

However, Mr Abbott's office rejected the concerns.

Conservative radio presenter Alan Jones was one of several normally supportive voices turning on the Prime Minister in the wake of his "captain's pick" appointment of Prince Philip as a knight.

"Here's a bloke who's made a reputation in politics for being on the wavelength of people in the street, and he just seems to have lost that touch," Mr Jones said of Mr Abbott.

Mr Murdoch, the News Corporation boss also applied direct public pressure on Wednesday, using Twitter to demand Ms Credlin's head.

"Tough to write, but if he [Mr Abbott] won't replace top aide Peta Credlin she must do her patriotic duty and resign. More," he wrote.

"Forget fairness," he added in a subsequent tweet. "This change only way to recover team work and achieve so much possible for Australia. Leading involves cruel choices," he wrote.


The comments reveal the conservative-aligned Mr Murdoch, who stays in contact with senior Liberals and regularly receives the Prime Minister and other ministers at his New York home, believes the government is no longer functioning as a team.

They also suggest Mr Murdoch has formed the view – as have a number of Liberal backbenchers – that Ms Credlin is to blame and was behind the knighthood decision even though privately she holds republican rather than monarchist sympathies.

In recent weeks Mr Murdoch is reported to have entertained Deputy Liberal leader and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop.

The day before he was elected in September 2013, Mr Abbott described Mr Murdoch as one of Australia's "home-town heroes".

"I've got a lot of time for Rupert Murdoch because, whether you like his papers or don't like his papers, he's one of the most influential Australians of all time and I think that Aussies should, we should support our home-town heroes. And that's what I think in his own way Rupert Murdoch is," he told Melbourne's Triple M radio.

The Prime Minister on Wednesday conceded the public had not reacted well to the appointment of Prince Philip as a knight but stood by the decision, while promising greater consultation for future appointments.

But the issue has become a lightning rod for serious party-room anger over the operation of the government, and the tight control of cabinet ministers by the Prime Minister's office.

Fairfax Media has been told former prime minister John Howard used a Kirribilli House lunch in December with Mr Abbott to broach growing internal resistance to Ms Credlin's role, which many MPs and ministers say is characterised by excessive control and micromanagement.

Several shocked MPs immediately cited Ms Credlin's influence in the selection of the prince for a knighthood.

Mr Murdoch is thought to be increasingly frustrated with the failure of the government in Canberra to effectively sell its reform agenda as successive opinion polls show it could yet be a one-term operation unless its ratings improve dramatically.

Mr Abbott's own judgment is also being questioned by colleagues.

Fairfax Media has learnt that Mr Abbott first raised the idea of resurrecting the knights and dames honour while he was leader of the opposition, but Ms Credlin and other advisers warned him against going through with it.

The reaction inside his office was that the idea was "f---king stupid", according to a source.   

A party source said if Mr Abbott was considering moving Ms Credlin on from his office he would inevitably face fresh accusations that he has a "problem with women".

"It would look terrible if he sacrifices a female adviser over a captain's pick."


But the source acknowledged the growing angst in government ranks at the performance of Mr Abbott's office in general and, specifically, Ms Credlin's at times "tyrannical" role at the centre of it. "Peta's list of enemies grows longer by the day and the week."
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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3023 on: January 31, 2015, 12:27:18 PM »
The LNP is expected to win today's Queensland state election 52-48 according to most of the polls. However, Premier Campbell Newman is expected to lose his own seat 45-55. So, Queensland will have a new premier whoever wins today.



Meanwhile, Abbott is going to dump his promised Parental Leave Scheme.

http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/prime-minister-tony-abbott-to-dump-paid-parental-leave-scheme/story-fnii5sms-1227202835054


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« Reply #3025 on: February 01, 2015, 03:23:57 PM »
We're definitely seeing a new era in Australian politics. Massive swings (some Qld seats had 22%  :o) from election to election are becoming more and more common as the average voter is disenfranchised with the current political system and more than ever less rusted on to any of the major parties. They've also turned off fly-by-night minor parties and independents over the past 12-18 months thanks to Palmer and Lambie. One-term governments could become the norm.
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« Reply #3026 on: February 01, 2015, 06:25:59 PM »
Hard to split the sides now as they're closer to center-right and center-left than ever before. Both sides often have something for everyone so if you stuff it up you're gone and we'll put the others in.

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« Reply #3027 on: February 01, 2015, 09:03:01 PM »
We're definitely seeing a new era in Australian politics. Massive swings (some Qld seats had 22%  :o) from election to election are becoming more and more common as the average voter is disenfranchised with the current political system and more than ever less rusted on to any of the major parties. They've also turned off fly-by-night minor parties and independents over the past 12-18 months thanks to Palmer and Lambie. One-term governments could become the norm.

I wish voters would understand that by doing this, all they will achieve is to spook politicians and make them reticent to make the tough but correct calls that may take 2 or more terms to be proven fruitful bc the average dumbarse voter expects immediate results when that sometimes just isn't possible. In time this will breed an even worse type of politician.

Why do people these days expect things to get done with a click of the fingers? Perspective has been lost. It takes time to build or rebuild, you cant do it in one hit!

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« Reply #3028 on: February 01, 2015, 09:14:18 PM »
Tony I don't think its the tuff decisions voters don't want,i think they would welcome them if they were explained to them.I think the electorate has had enough of politicians of all colour taking us for fools.eg promisng the world to get elected and then conveniently discarding those promises..I think voters across the globe are demanding honesty

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« Reply #3029 on: February 01, 2015, 10:23:08 PM »
Im not so sure abt that G.... I don't think people want to hear (or accept) the truth. Everytime a politician mentions the words need to cut spending bc its unsustainable, voters are up in arms. Think we've entered a very unrealistic time in society where people expect things to happen by magic and forget it takes sacrifice to get results. Lets see if a politician has the guts to say listen here plebs, right now our expenditure outpaces our income streams by X amount, and its simply unsustainable, we either 1) have to look at welfare cuts or 2) put up taxes or 3) refine the gst tax and include food and/or raise it 2.5%. I guarantee that party will not be voted in. People have become stupid or blind or both