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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3345 on: September 17, 2015, 12:42:26 AM »
yeah probably right there.

i believe that over time a govts is only as good as the opposition. a poor opposition allows the govt to be unaccountable and arrogant, well more so than they are at the best of times anyway
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« Reply #3346 on: September 18, 2015, 10:31:10 AM »
Latest poll put Libs ahead 51 to 49.

Getting rid of Peta Credlin was the key.

Tony might have survived if he had ditched the uber-control  freak.


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« Reply #3347 on: September 18, 2015, 10:32:03 AM »
And I will be voting for Turnbull.

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« Reply #3348 on: September 18, 2015, 10:56:16 AM »
Latest poll put Libs ahead 51 to 49.

Getting rid of Peta Credlin was the key.

Tony might have survived if he had ditched the uber-control  freak.



lol no one but you gives a rats abaout her.

abbott is a buffoon and most even minded people can see it
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3349 on: September 18, 2015, 11:11:11 AM »
Reading and comprehension isn't your strong point. Not surprising though as Tony did only appeal to the knuckledraggers.

Boo hoo. Not taking it well which is a shame, a real shame

Not taking it well?  :lol if you weren't such a dipstick you would realise I'm over the moon. What a noddy.
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« Reply #3350 on: September 18, 2015, 11:17:22 AM »
Latest poll put Libs ahead 51 to 49.

Getting rid of Peta Credlin was the key.

Tony might have survived if he had ditched the uber-control  freak.



lol no one but you gives a rats abaout her.

abbott is a buffoon and most even minded people can see it

Article in the Age says much the same.

On the phone at the beach at Hoi An so can't post the link.

And I have been talking about the woman for a couple of years

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« Reply #3351 on: September 18, 2015, 12:02:13 PM »
Latest poll put Libs ahead 51 to 49.

Getting rid of Peta Credlin was the key.

Tony might have survived if he had ditched the uber-control  freak.



lol no one but you gives a rats abaout her.

abbott is a buffoon and most even minded people can see it

Article in the Age says much the same.

On the phone at the beach at Hoi An so can't post the link.

And I have been talking about the woman for a couple of years

And her husband will be the next to go.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3353 on: September 26, 2015, 07:35:36 AM »

Sexism isn't responsible for Peta Credlin's own failures
OPINION
By Barrie Cassidy
Updated Fri at 6:50am

Few women in public life would not be subject to sexism. But it is also possible for women - just like men - to be the architects of their own downfall. And when that is demonstrably the case, it cheapens the principle of gender equality to play that card so casually, writes Barrie Cassidy.

Undoubtedly Tony Abbott's chief of staff, Peta Credlin, would at times have been the victim of sexism. Most women have been.

As a woman you would have to work alone in a lighthouse not to be exposed to men who will never get gender balance.

"If I was a guy I wouldn't be bossy, I would be strong," she said this week. "If I was a guy I wouldn't be a micro manager, I would be across my brief or across the detail."

True enough.

But it is also possible for women - just like men - to be the architects of their own downfall, and when that is demonstrably the case, it cheapens the principle of gender equality to play that card so casually.

It makes it harder for women genuinely aggrieved to be heard.

Credlin was a control freak who was given that control by the prime minister. Her clout from an unelected position was almost unprecedented.

To that she says, "If I wasn't strong, determined, controlling, and got them into government from opposition I might add, then I would be weak and not up to it and should have to go and could be replaced."

No. She was - along with the prime minister himself - replaced in part because she was too controlling. And that would have been the case no matter whether a man or woman had played it so badly.

It was her failure to conciliate, to reach out and to build bridges with the front and back bench and the public service that led to the February spill. Because both Credlin and Abbott seemed blind to that reality, even after February, the tensions never went away.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-25/cassidy-sexism-isnt-responsible-for-peta-credlins-own-failures/6803272

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3354 on: September 26, 2015, 07:55:44 AM »
None of the people who govern  are actually interested in the business of government ,what the whole lot are interested in is power ,keeping it and attaining it.This to me anyway has been proven by  the shanningans of our elected representatives of the past 5 years(labour,liberal,state and federal).
Its a pity really because good government is what the whole world is wanting right now

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3355 on: September 26, 2015, 02:07:36 PM »
None of the people who govern  are actually interested in the business of government ,what the whole lot are interested in is power ,keeping it and attaining it.This to me anyway has been proven by  the shanningans of our elected representatives of the past 5 years(labour,liberal,state and federal).
Its a pity really because good government is what the whole world is wanting right now

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« Reply #3356 on: September 26, 2015, 05:04:02 PM »
Mal has been in the job for what 5 mins and your already tarnishing him with the same brush as his predecessors.

Come on I bet if it was Mr Union you'd be singing a different tune.

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« Reply #3357 on: September 26, 2015, 05:19:02 PM »
Nope..in fact I think unions in general are also only interested in power for their union and for themselves.

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« Reply #3358 on: September 26, 2015, 05:28:37 PM »
Mal has been in the job for what 5 mins and your already tarnishing him with the same brush as his predecessors.

Come on I bet if it was Mr Union you'd be singing a different tune.

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« Reply #3359 on: September 26, 2015, 05:30:05 PM »
Most "union" people inolved in the Labor(sic) Party today aren't real working class union people - they're mainly upper middle class twits who went straight from uni to work in the union executive/management or were union lawyers and have never even set foot on a shop floor, let alone ever gotten their hands dirty. Long gone is the party of Ben Chifley.
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