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« Reply #3480 on: February 22, 2016, 07:54:34 PM »
bills an idiot!

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« Reply #3481 on: February 22, 2016, 09:30:31 PM »
bill. Give me a break. Bents would do a better job than that flog

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« Reply #3482 on: February 24, 2016, 03:28:43 AM »
The massive divisions between the factions within the Liberal party are part of the reason behind this mess. The ultra conservatives are no different to the Tea Partyists in the States and are driven by blind 1950s and fanatical religious ideology. They are also still bitter about their man Abbott being overthrown by Turnbull and the liberal moderates. They will oppose any move towards the political centre by Turnbull, so Turnbull has become forced by his own party to play Abbott-lite to stay PM. meaning nothing has changed.

The other reason is the LNP's own cheap political rhetoric from the last election has come back to bite them. It's hard to argue for tax reform such as increasing the GST when you've been running around for the past 7 years squealing about opposing any "big tax on everything". It's hard to argue for mature, apolitical, rational and in depth debates on important issues when you've happily parroted simpleton 3 word slogans ad nauseum since 2009 under Abbott. It's hard to argue "adults are in charge now" when you've become a government of musical chairs and indecisiveness, copying the worse aspects of the previous Labor government under Rudd-Gillard.

It's not surprising there's talk Turnbull wants these Senate voting "reforms", that heavily favour the LNP, to pass quickly and then call an early election. Getting in early while the polls are still okay and pinching even a narrow win, would give him 3 more years and most likely see the LNP control both houses. If he decides to wait the full term, and especially if the budget is another unpopular ideological-based flop, then his own personal ratings may head south along with the LNP's.
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« Reply #3483 on: February 24, 2016, 11:03:49 AM »
Lol @ the safe sex program telling 11 year olds there are nae  men and women , but rather gender is fluid

And the great downsides on heterosexual relationships
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« Reply #3484 on: February 26, 2016, 07:41:07 AM »

$195 billion on defence. One more thing to do, appoint Tony Abbott to be Minister of Defence.
That might keep the backbench quiet

Massive $150b submarine program the centrepiece of Turnbull government Defence plan
 
Date February 25, 2016 - 10:24PM
David Wroe

A submarine program that could cost $150 billion by the middle of the century is the centrepiece of a massive military modernisation program the Turnbull government says is needed to maintain Australia's edge over rapidly evolving defence forces across Asia.

Declaring the nation's new defence blueprint "clear-eyed and unsentimental" in its assessment of the 21st century threats, Malcolm Turnbull on Thursday unveiled his long-awaited 20-year plan for the military.

The Defence white paper says the government will pump $195 billion over the next decade into new military hardware, with an unprecedented focus on cyber and high-tech intelligence and space-based capabilities.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/massive-150b-submarine-program-the-centrepiece-of-turnbull-government-defence-plan-20160225-gn3tgx.html#ixzz41DLlf9S0


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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #3485 on: February 26, 2016, 06:56:29 PM »

$195 billion on defence. One more thing to do, appoint Tony Abbott to be Minister of Defence.
That might keep the backbench quiet

Massive $150b submarine program the centrepiece of Turnbull government Defence plan
 
Date February 25, 2016 - 10:24PM
David Wroe

A submarine program that could cost $150 billion by the middle of the century is the centrepiece of a massive military modernisation program the Turnbull government says is needed to maintain Australia's edge over rapidly evolving defence forces across Asia.

Declaring the nation's new defence blueprint "clear-eyed and unsentimental" in its assessment of the 21st century threats, Malcolm Turnbull on Thursday unveiled his long-awaited 20-year plan for the military.

The Defence white paper says the government will pump $195 billion over the next decade into new military hardware, with an unprecedented focus on cyber and high-tech intelligence and space-based capabilities.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/massive-150b-submarine-program-the-centrepiece-of-turnbull-government-defence-plan-20160225-gn3tgx.html#ixzz41DLlf9S0

You have in issue with us investing in our defence forces after years of neglect?

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« Reply #3486 on: February 26, 2016, 10:36:10 PM »
No, he just has an issue with a conservative government doing it... :shh
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« Reply #3487 on: February 27, 2016, 06:57:19 AM »
195 billion hey?

How many hospitals is that? Science research? 

Thought not long ago the Libs were trying to say we were financially in big trouble?
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« Reply #3488 on: February 27, 2016, 09:46:51 AM »
Let's put the pieces together on the deliberate and premeditated redistribution of wealth under Turnbull.

Sought to abolish penalty rates for low wage workers - tick.
Sought to increase GST which will of course disproportionate tax lower income earners over higher income earners - tick
Sought to cut taxes for those earning over 100 under the guise if bracket creep, whilst at the same coincidental time, the media covered street brawls and violence as front page stories - tick.
Maintain massive billion dollar subsidies for Gina and friends - tick.

Meanwhile announcement of 200 billion defence improvements. I wonder who will bid for contracts. Surely nobody who sits on what boards whos companies made contributions to the liberal party election fundraisers. Tick pending.

It astounds me how right of centre we have become.

Extreme capitalism whilst most of the working and middle class is asleep.....

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« Reply #3489 on: February 27, 2016, 10:22:15 AM »

You have in issue with us investing in our defence forces after years of neglect?

 :gobdrop

Not the total just what they are spending our money on.

The world is changing rapidly and we need to change out thinking with it.

The money could be spent in other areas that will protect our country from new threats.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-26/nasu-we-must-prepare-for-a-new-type-of-security-threat/7201656

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« Reply #3490 on: February 27, 2016, 11:58:00 AM »
Just to put it in perspective; 195 bill is more than what all levels of government spend on education and health combined as of the 14/15 budget.

And health and education are flooded with funding, plenty of room for cuts there. :whistle

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« Reply #3491 on: February 27, 2016, 12:35:59 PM »
Can anybody tell me why we aren't looking at nuclear subs?

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« Reply #3492 on: February 27, 2016, 05:54:37 PM »
No issue with the defence spending. The only odd thing was the statement put out claiming that defence spending should be independent of the state of the economy and hence the budget.


Anyway, Abbott today reminding everyone how deluded and out of touch he was as PM and still is. Clearly, waiting around to undermine Turnbull and hoping to topple Mal to get his old gig back.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/tony-abbott-has-said-he-would-have-won-the-election/news-story/c8c88853b5099015f3caf1937cbceaad


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« Reply #3493 on: February 27, 2016, 11:15:52 PM »

A varied night.

Went to the Greek festival, ate in Chinatown, was part of the "Let them stay" protest and then went and saw a very entertaining play "Lungs"at the Fairfax.

Best part of the night was the Tigers beating the Hawks.

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« Reply #3494 on: February 29, 2016, 11:18:26 AM »
Can anybody tell me why we aren't looking at nuclear subs?
Are we 'allowed' to have nuclear subs?
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