Australian Politics thread [merged]

[Diocletian]

If Electricity Bill or Each Way Albo were in charge we'd already be like Italy...

This post didn't age well beyond even half a day given the Morrison government has banned all mass gatherings (starting Monday so Morrison can go to the NRL footy this weekend ) and is increasing the travel bans. Sadly, this is only the beginning [/inserts ].

Well that's still nothing like where Italy is right now or even has been for over two weeks and  as usual you've completely missed the point...

..and LMAO @ seriously thinking Morrison is delaying measures just so he can go to the footy....

[1965]

..and LMAO @ seriously thinking Morrison is delaying measures just so he can go to the footy....

Apart from what Scotty from Marketing actually said.

[mightytiges]

If Electricity Bill or Each Way Albo were in charge we'd already be like Italy...

This post didn't age well beyond even half a day given the Morrison government has banned all mass gatherings (starting Monday so Morrison can go to the NRL footy this weekend ) and is increasing the travel bans. Sadly, this is only the beginning [/inserts ].

Well that's still nothing like where Italy is right now or even has been for over two weeks and  as usual you've completely missed the point...

Italy was nothing like China two weeks ago. The UK is nothing like Italy now yet it's predicted that the UK is four weeks behind Italy. If you think the number of corona cases here are not going to rise then you're kidding yourself. The health measures are designed to spread the large number of cases that will develop over time so as to not overwhelm the hospital system. That doesn't mean a large chunk of the population won't still catch it here. We haven't even hit the colder months yet, unlike the northern hemisphere, when illnesses such as the flu spike.

..and LMAO @ seriously thinking Morrison is delaying measures just so he can go to the footy....

Apart from Morrison today boasting about himself still being able to go to the footy thanks to the ban not starting until Monday . I'm not saying it's a conspiracy. I'm saying Morrison is clueless, lacks empathy and fails to lead as usual.

By the way, Dutton is in hospital with covid-19.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-13/peter-dutton-diagnosed-with-coronavirus/12055104

Dutton was at that special cabinet meeting on Tuesday. So the PM is planning to go to the footy despite being in contact with someone that has the virus. What happened to going into isolation for 14 days?! Yep he's clueless .

[Diocletian]

If Electricity Bill or Each Way Albo were in charge we'd already be like Italy...

This post didn't age well beyond even half a day given the Morrison government has banned all mass gatherings (starting Monday so Morrison can go to the NRL footy this weekend ) and is increasing the travel bans. Sadly, this is only the beginning [/inserts ].

Well that's still nothing like where Italy is right now or even has been for over two weeks and  as usual you've completely missed the point...

Italy was nothing like China two weeks ago. The UK is nothing like Italy now yet it's predicted that the UK is four weeks behind Italy. If you think the number of corona cases here are not going to rise then you're kidding yourself. The health measures are designed to spread the large number of cases that will develop over time so as to not overwhelm the hospital system. That doesn't mean a large chunk of the population won't still catch it here. We haven't even hit the colder months yet, unlike the northern hemisphere, when illnesses such as the flu spike.

FMD..not only did you miss the point the first time around but you then proceed to miss it again by an even wider margin...a truly special kind of ignorant..

..and LMAO @ seriously thinking Morrison is delaying measures just so he can go to the footy....

Apart from Morrison today boasting about himself still being able to go to the footy thanks to the ban not starting until Monday . I'm not saying it's a conspiracy. I'm saying Morrison is clueless, lacks empathy and fails to lead as usual.

So the experts advised him to implement the measures immediately and he said "nah stuff that I wanna go watch the Sharkies first..wait until Monday"...  ok then.... ... and if a Labor PM had made a similar throwaway line --you'd would've fawned all over him for being "a knockabout man of the people" so spare me your feigned  ideologically driven outrage...:

[Diocletian]

Well he's not going now in the wake of Dutton's diagnosis and also due to the chance his attendance will be misrepresented (gee by the likes of whom I wonder?)..so guess 65, MT and the rest of the leftist mongol hordes will have to find/invent something else to be outraged at him about... #MDS

[mightytiges]

If Electricity Bill or Each Way Albo were in charge we'd already be like Italy...

This post didn't age well beyond even half a day given the Morrison government has banned all mass gatherings (starting Monday so Morrison can go to the NRL footy this weekend ) and is increasing the travel bans. Sadly, this is only the beginning [/inserts ].

Well that's still nothing like where Italy is right now or even has been for over two weeks and  as usual you've completely missed the point...

Italy was nothing like China two weeks ago. The UK is nothing like Italy now yet it's predicted that the UK is four weeks behind Italy. If you think the number of corona cases here are not going to rise then you're kidding yourself. The health measures are designed to spread the large number of cases that will develop over time so as to not overwhelm the hospital system. That doesn't mean a large chunk of the population won't still catch it here. We haven't even hit the colder months yet, unlike the northern hemisphere, when illnesses such as the flu spike.

FMD..not only did you miss the point the first time around but you then proceed to miss it again by an even wider margin...a truly special kind of ignorant..

Resorting to insults and planning the man is only an admittance you have no argument. Didn't Maggie teach you that  .

You're the one who brought up Italy. If there's a "point" regarding Italy it can only be the economy or corona. Now debt levels over the past 7 years under the LNP government have more than doubled to ever growing record levels and the level of stimulus planned by Morrison is similar to Italy's (A$17-22 billion). So it's not that . That leaves corona and the outbreak and subsequent shutdown in Italy over the time frame you mentioned (i.e. the past two weeks). Whether the LNP or ALP were in power, either would follow the medical advice and response being suggested by our medical experts here. Andrews mentioned that today at COAG.

..and LMAO @ seriously thinking Morrison is delaying measures just so he can go to the footy....

Apart from Morrison today boasting about himself still being able to go to the footy thanks to the ban not starting until Monday . I'm not saying it's a conspiracy. I'm saying Morrison is clueless, lacks empathy and fails to lead as usual.

So the experts advised him to implement the measures immediately and he said "nah stuff that I wanna go watch the Sharkies first..wait until Monday"...  ok then.... ... and if a Labor PM had made a similar throwaway line --you'd would've fawned all over him for being "a knockabout man of the people" so spare me your feigned  ideologically driven outrage...:

It was typical Scotty from Marketing once again during a crisis thinking about his own image first by trying to play "a knockabout man of the people" and surprise surprise the public saw through his BS. It backfired on him once again especially given he had been in contact with Dutton yet he was still going . He's only option was to backflip  .

[Francois Jackson]

That's what I call a stimulus not that Rudd fiasco.

For all of Rudd's faults and the pink bats program being rushed out uncontrolled and stuffed up, Australia all-up avoided a recession under his watch. So the stimulus in its entirety back then did its job and worked.

After a decade of LNP sycophants slamming the use of multi-billion dollar spending to fight our way out of the last global economic crisis rather than cutting government spending, we now have the LNP resorting to multi-billion dollar spending  . Nothing like hypocrisy! If this was Labor doing this they would going off their nut screaming "economic mismanagement", "budget emergency" and "we need an election" as Abbott did but because it's the LNP more "debt and deficits" is all good . Since 2013, this LNP government had racked up more debt than all preceding governments back to federation combined.

The Reserve Bank and senior economists had been calling for stimulus for our ailing economy for the past couple of years yet Morrison and co. were more obsessed with playing politics proclaiming an imaginary surplus,  offering tax cuts and backing unsustainable middle class welfare like $6 billion dollars worth of franking credits and negative gearing that the country could increasingly no longer afford and that failed to stimulate the economy anyway.

I do like how not everyone is getting the $750

You mean like how the most vulnerable to an economic crisis - the low-paid working class - got stuff all? The very people who need and would spend the money and stimulate the economy in large numbers as consumers are getting nothing. Businesses curb their spending when they are in financial trouble and their customers are no longer buying their stuff. Consumer confidence was down even before the bushfire and corona crises. So $3 out of $4 in this package going to business (hello trickle-down economics!) is a flaw. [/u]

Wait and see what?

Wait and see ... for the need for another multi-billion dollar stimulus package. Morrison is kidding himself if he thinks the economic effects of this will be over by the end of June. Stock markets have crashed and are continuing to fall  . Wall Street had its biggest fall overnight since the 1987 October crash. The latter lead to a global recession.

If Electricity Bill or Each Way Albo were in charge we'd already be like Italy...

This post didn't age well beyond even half a day given the Morrison government has banned all mass gatherings (starting Monday so Morrison can go to the NRL footy this weekend ) and is increasing the travel bans. Sadly, this is only the beginning [/inserts ].

the people that need it are going to get it. Those on unemployment benefits, or any type of newstart re getting it. Even those who are not receiving financial benefits (like commonwealth seniors health card holders) will get it.

Maybe its time to stop feeling sorry for yourself if you dont receive the cash and be grateful that others are.

Rudd avoided a recession due to the efforts of those before him. He was the steve bradbury during that time. If we happen to avoid a recession this time you will probably still blame scomo for going to hawaii.

[mightytiges]

That's what I call a stimulus not that Rudd fiasco.

For all of Rudd's faults and the pink bats program being rushed out uncontrolled and stuffed up, Australia all-up avoided a recession under his watch. So the stimulus in its entirety back then did its job and worked.

After a decade of LNP sycophants slamming the use of multi-billion dollar spending to fight our way out of the last global economic crisis rather than cutting government spending, we now have the LNP resorting to multi-billion dollar spending  . Nothing like hypocrisy! If this was Labor doing this they would going off their nut screaming "economic mismanagement", "budget emergency" and "we need an election" as Abbott did but because it's the LNP more "debt and deficits" is all good . Since 2013, this LNP government had racked up more debt than all preceding governments back to federation combined.

The Reserve Bank and senior economists had been calling for stimulus for our ailing economy for the past couple of years yet Morrison and co. were more obsessed with playing politics proclaiming an imaginary surplus,  offering tax cuts and backing unsustainable middle class welfare like $6 billion dollars worth of franking credits and negative gearing that the country could increasingly no longer afford and that failed to stimulate the economy anyway.

I do like how not everyone is getting the $750

You mean like how the most vulnerable to an economic crisis - the low-paid working class - got stuff all? The very people who need and would spend the money and stimulate the economy in large numbers as consumers are getting nothing. Businesses curb their spending when they are in financial trouble and their customers are no longer buying their stuff. Consumer confidence was down even before the bushfire and corona crises. So $3 out of $4 in this package going to business (hello trickle-down economics!) is a flaw. [/u]

Wait and see what?

Wait and see ... for the need for another multi-billion dollar stimulus package. Morrison is kidding himself if he thinks the economic effects of this will be over by the end of June. Stock markets have crashed and are continuing to fall  . Wall Street had its biggest fall overnight since the 1987 October crash. The latter lead to a global recession.

If Electricity Bill or Each Way Albo were in charge we'd already be like Italy...

This post didn't age well beyond even half a day given the Morrison government has banned all mass gatherings (starting Monday so Morrison can go to the NRL footy this weekend ) and is increasing the travel bans. Sadly, this is only the beginning [/inserts ].

the people that need it are going to get it. Those on unemployment benefits, or any type of newstart re getting it. Even those who are not receiving financial benefits (like commonwealth seniors health card holders) will get it.

Maybe its time to stop feeling sorry for yourself if you dont receive the cash and be grateful that others are.

Rudd avoided a recession due to the efforts of those before him. He was the steve bradbury during that time. If we happen to avoid a recession this time you will probably still blame scomo for going to hawaii.

It's really getting to some that the first recession in 30 years may occur under the LNP  . Like they deludedly believe this isn't meant to happen and it hasn't happened before. Some of us are old enough to remember Australia being driven into the dirt in the early 80s thanks to their refusal to adapt, reform the economy and modernise the country as the world changed. Being conservative and not making the hard decisions eventually fails.   

I wasn't talking about myself  . I don't need any payment. I was talking about low-paid workers in retail, hospitality, tourism, etc ... who will at 'best' lose a large slice of their income and at worst lose their jobs. The rent/mortgage and bills won't stop just because their income/jobs have. And don't say there's Newstart as that is below the poverty line and history shows there's no guarantee of their jobs returning post-downturn as before. The government hasn't raised Newstart either despite calls from every sector to do so. I'm not saying pensioners don't need the payment but at least pensioners receive welfare already in the form of the aged pension. But hey who cares about the poor workers. Let them eat cake instead  .

[mightytiges]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/margaret-courts-victory-life-church-boasts-coronavirus-immunity/news-story/1e1b95f4b0aadd1b3fa776fe6de88477

[Francois Jackson]

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/health-safety/coronavirus-overseas-arrivals-in-australia-have-to-selfisolate-for-two-weeks/news-story/87d923137de264df9f54f33be3ac1996

 

Any comments WP and MT or we still upset about Hawaii.

[mightytiges]

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/health-safety/coronavirus-overseas-arrivals-in-australia-have-to-selfisolate-for-two-weeks/news-story/87d923137de264df9f54f33be3ac1996

 

Any comments WP and MT or we still upset about Hawaii.

You do realise as that article states at the bottom there was joint special national cabinet meeting today involving all (including every ALP/LNP state/territory) governments? NZ had also announced the same self-isolation instruction on all arrivals yesterday. The Kiwi sides in the NRL & A-League are going to remain and be based in Australia as a result.

[Francois Jackson]

Typical of you MT to not acknowledge anything this guy does that's actually good

Gee mate I like your work but you are very petty and biased at times when discussing the libs.

Even I acknowledge and applaud  Arden for showing some leadership in her country despite what I think of her. Scomo does the same and yet he will cop abuse for it.

Wake up mate 65 has left Scomo has led by example here.

[1965]

Wake up mate 65 has left Scomo has led by example here.

65 has left????

Sorry, same poo different pyjamas.

 

[Chuck17]

 

[Chuck17]

I think a lot of countries are going to go into recession due to the virus

Very unfair blaming it on the ruling party of the day, or possibly a move made from a set agenda