Australian Politics thread [merged]

[mightytiges]

Vic Libs shooting themselves in the foot once again. What a rabble!

Only you and possibly 65 could find humour in Victoria’s current situation.

You do realise the state is stuffed don’t you?

Completely stuffed. On the credit watch list and the laughing stock of the country.

You must be so proud of the job being done.

Talk about parroting media-fed over-dramatics and hysterics .

Victoria was the second highest state in terms of growth in business investment of the past 12 months.
A growth rate up 12% since 2021 compared to NSW’s 8.1% growth and the 9.4% growth of Australia’s GDP.
Low unemployment and high participation rate albeit that's happening nationally.
A likely return to budget surplus by 2026.
CommSec regularly has Victoria in the top 4 of the 8 states & territories in its quarterly reports on each state's economy.
Credit rating agencies most recent outlook has Victoria as stable.

NSW is also going to hit $200b in gross state debt by 2028 but because most of that is due to the previous NSW LNP govt you haven't heard boo from the media about it. Yes, debt is a significant issue for both states and both have had cost overruns on major projects due to supply chain shortage driven inflation, but they are both funding necessary massive infrastructure and urban re-shaping programs. The main difference is that in NSW both sides of politics are pro-rail so there's mostly continuity in terms of planning and construction even when governments change. Not like here in Victoria where the Vic LNP rabble are anti-rail and still live in a 1950-60s time-warp. If the Vic LNP had started building the Metro Tunnel like they had promised to in 2010 then not only would it have been finished but they would not have lost the 2014 state election.

[mightytiges]

The difference between the ALP & the LNP is that since Hawke (or Wran at state level) the ALP can turn to the right and become "Liberal-Lite" and win and in fact probably win by more, where as the LNP can't turn to the left and become "Labor(sic)-Lite"and win. Pesutto clearly doesn't understand this.

This is a very good and insightful post, Dio.


No doubt Pesutto wanted Deeming gone as she was/is an unnecessary distraction. Even Morrison got the party to dump her as a preselection candidate in 2022 as she was seen as too much of an electoral liability. The problem for Pesutto is these days the Victorian Liberal party at branch level has been hijacked from within by the religious conservative & cooker fringe. Their views pretty much costed him his seat in 2018 and now it looks like they will oust him as leader despite him making the LNP competitive once again in the polls. It shows how much the Liberal party base has changed at branch level that Deeming is championed over say a Jess Wilson who comes from a more traditional Liberal background.

[WilliamPowell]

Just on Deeming, I didn't realise this but I heard and read she was a supporter of The Voice to Parliament and after her exhale was quite vocal about it

Not trying to start another go round re The Voice just bought it up as many commentators have suggested she's a "traditional" liberal one very right leaning... so to hear her views on the Voice to Parliament generally surprised me

[Damo]

Just on Deeming, I didn't realise this but I heard and read she was a supporter of The Voice to Parliament and after her exhale was quite vocal about it

Not trying to start another go round re The Voice just bought it up as many commentators have suggested she's a "traditional" liberal one very right leaning... so to hear her views on the Voice to Parliament generally surprised me

She’s a nutcase

Fits in well with the Meltonites

[1965]

Been a while.
Anyway, Dutton is no Trump.
And Australia is not the USA.
USA has a whole lot more right wing idiots than we do.
Anyway that's my hope.

[Damo]

Been a while.
Anyway, Dutton is no Trump.
And Australia is not the USA.
USA has a whole lot more right wing idiots than we do.
Anyway that's my hope.

You can keep on hoping, but it won’t help.

Your good mate Albo is going to lose what was once considered unlosable.

Incompetence will do that

[Francois Jackson]

everyone who likes D Trump is considered a right wing fool. racist, bigot and the rest. Dont you know this Damo?

anyway they can clrawl into their little hole because he is making a difference.

[WilliamPowell]

everyone who likes D Trump is considered a right wing fool. racist, bigot and the rest. Dont you know this Damo?

anyway they can clrawl into their little hole because he is making a difference.

Sort of like anyone who doesn't like or support him is leftist and woke moron/fool right?

I agree he and his right arm Elon Musk are certainly making a difference

And any comment around the fact that 38 of his executed orders in his first fortnight are straight out of Project 2025 you know that pesky little report one of his major backers put together and that he supposedly has never read? Coincidence I'm guessing ?

Been a while.
Anyway, Dutton is no Trump.
And Australia is not the USA.
USA has a whole lot more right wing idiots than we do.
Anyway that's my hope.

These are really silly statements. . Dutton's current strong position has nothing to do with Trump

It has to do with 2 things

1/ The fact that many voters have no clue what the current PM stands for. Before the last election it was clear, since the referendum he has turned to jelly and has shown very little leadership. It is only in the last couple of weeks he's decided to actually start looking and sounding like a leader.

2/ Dutton is playing the same game Abbott did which was as Groucho Marx sang back in the 1930's in the movie Horse Feathers "Whatever it is, I'm against it". He like Abbott before him doesn't need to do much else as he's telling people what they want to hear. And that's you're worse off and it's their fault.

When people are pi--ed off with their lot in life they will listen to the people who reinforce how tough things are, even if the same people are partially responsible for how tough things are due to their mismanagement of the economy.

[Francois Jackson]

Seems like you're making poo up again WP.

Perhaps you are confusing his ideas than  the person himself. Let's start with his anti tranz agenda  and the latest there are only 2 genders in society.

Do you agree with him?

As for  albonese showing leadership in the last few weeks I think I have heard it all.

His only chance at success is because the teals are basically a wolf in sheep's clothing.

[WilliamPowell]

Seems like you're making poo up again WP.

Perhaps you are confusing his ideas than  the person himself. Let's start with his anti tranz agenda  and the latest there are only 2 genders in society.

Do you agree with him?

As for  albonese showing leadership in the last few weeks I think I have heard it all.

His only chance at success is because the teals are basically a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Making poo again about what?  His 38 executive orders that are straight out of project 2025. Do your research, it's not hard to find

And just on your "tranz agenda" .example... it is straight out of  project 2025, thanks for highlighting it 

And he certainly made a difference today with his latest tarriff announcement on steel. Going to be great for Australia

[Diocletian]

LMFAO - Oh no not the "Project 2025 agenda" and it's *checks notes" adherence to biological reality...the horror, the horror....

[Assange Tiger 😎]

[Damo]

I’m not a fan of Trump, in fact I think he’s an utter flog. I would still vote for him over Kamala ffs.

Some of the things he’s doing are spot on, regardless of what report they’re mentioned in

Trans shouldn’t be in woman’s sports
Kids under 19 shouldn’t be changing genders
Declassifying JFK and MLK files is good
Well done for ending birthright citizenship if parents are illegals

Some others good as well

[1965]

Plenty of hints in question time today that point to a late March/early April election. Game on. Let's hope the effwit ex policeman Queenslander doesn't win.

[Diocletian]

Plenty of hints in question time today that point to a late March/early April election. Game on. Let's hope the effwit ex policeman Queenslander doesn't win.

Agree he's a stuffwit but since when was Albo in the QLD police force?