David Gourdis - 2011 expectations?

[Coach]

You said you need guys who are reliable by foot. Those I named have proven not to be reliable by foot. Gourdis was reliable by foot in his games for Richmond last year Clearly he should be playing.

In all seriousness, if his form is very good in pre-season then he should play.

[Mr Magic]

You said you need guys who are reliable by foot. Those I named have proven not to be reliable by foot. Gourdis was reliable by foot in his games for Richmond last year Clearly he should be playing.

In all seriousness, if his form is very good in pre-season then he should play.

We'll see.

[Penelope]

McGuane isn't either...ditto Rance. Connors is a turn over merchant, his dream team stats are irrelevant.

All those guys are a better kick of the footy than Gourdis.

connors might be a better kick than gourdis but  from the little i've seen of the goo he doesnt just blaze away like connors is prone to.

For all the talk i heard about how bad his kicking is I didnt see to much evidence of it when he played seniors.
He looks awkward, but up to now has been effective.

[eliminator]

Believe Thursfield better player at the moment than him but I believe there could be a role for him in the side. Needs to play at least 10 games this season . Needs to improve his kicking. While Gaspar's kicking was not great at times his ability to spoil and tackle was first class.

[tiga]

As far as kicking goes, Gourdis makes Gaspar look like Duncan Kellaway with a Wayne Carey Mask on.

[Infamy]

As far as kicking goes, Gourdis makes Gaspar look like Duncan Kellaway with a Wayne Carey Mask on.

Shame his kicking efficiency from his 3 games last year was 87%, which was the best of any of our defenders last year

[Mr Magic]

Shame his kicking efficiency from his 3 games last year was 87%, which was the best of any of our defenders last year

18 kicks is hardly a convincing sample.

[Infamy]

Shame his kicking efficiency from his 3 games last year was 87%, which was the best of any of our defenders last year

18 kicks is hardly a convincing sample.

Still means that 16 out of 18 kicks were effective.
I love how people will argue against stats when it goes against their argument

[Fruity Morgan]

Don't rate him, so my expectations are low.  Hope he proves me wrong.

[The Machine]

For us to move forward this year we need players like Gourdis to improve and i hope he is given plenty of game time this year to nail down that FB position. Unfortunately, Thursfield is not the answer at FB IMO.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Shame his kicking efficiency from his 3 games last year was 87%, which was the best of any of our defenders last year

18 kicks is hardly a convincing sample.

Still means that 16 out of 18 kicks were effective.
I love how people will argue against stats when it goes against their argument

So Infamy are you saying that he is an elite kick?
Because that is what the "statistics" tell us?
I love how people take a one dimensional approach to statistics when it supports their argument.

[Coach]

Where did Inf say that? The stats prove that his kicking was fine last year.

[Mr Magic]

I love how people take a one dimensional approach to statistics when it supports their argument.

Aah the irony.

Where did Inf say that? The stats prove that his kicking was fine last year.

If he had one kick and it hit a target I suppose that would also show his kicking is fine.

I don't need stats I have seen this guy at training regularly struggle to hit the side of a barn in simple drills.
If you want a player like that in your back half then good luck to you.
Fortunately I think our coaches won't.

Like I said we'll see who's right about Gourdis.

[Infamy]

Shame his kicking efficiency from his 3 games last year was 87%, which was the best of any of our defenders last year

18 kicks is hardly a convincing sample.

Still means that 16 out of 18 kicks were effective.
I love how people will argue against stats when it goes against their argument

So Infamy are you saying that he is an elite kick?
Because that is what the "statistics" tell us?
I love how people take a one dimensional approach to statistics when it supports their argument.

Of course I'm not saying that, don't put words in my mouth.
I'm just highlighting that for his entire AFL senior career so far he hasn't shown what you accuse him of
He doesn't look natural kick of the ball, but it hasn't cost us in any of his games so far

[tiga]

Shame his kicking efficiency from his 3 games last year was 87%, which was the best of any of our defenders last year

18 kicks is hardly a convincing sample.

Still means that 16 out of 18 kicks were effective.
I love how people will argue against stats when it goes against their argument

So Infamy are you saying that he is an elite kick?
Because that is what the "statistics" tell us?
I love how people take a one dimensional approach to statistics when it supports their argument.

Of course I'm not saying that, don't put words in my mouth.
I'm just highlighting that for his entire AFL senior career so far he hasn't shown what you accuse him of
He doesn't look natural kick of the ball, but it hasn't cost us in any of his games so far

"So far".... Give him time. From what I've seen he is a dreadful kick technically that may cost us in drive out of the back line. I'm only going on training reports and what I've seen on the tele (Coburg highlights and his limited AFL exposure) which isn't a huge amount but are there any regular Coburg watchers here who would care to put your 2 cents in as first hand experience watching him play over a full season is far better than a tiny smattering of statistics.