Tigers vs Pies game thread

[dizza]

Edwards is just hopeless. Surely this was his last week in the team for some time. Another thing that worried me was how much Collingwood slaughtered us on the Southern Stand wing. they'd have 3 or 4 players out there with no man on them, and as such it was an easy passage for them to get the ball quickly from one end to the other.

[RedanTiger]

Normally I'm one of the most critical about our performances but I was not too upset about this big loss.

Our poor players like Edwards, Graham, White, Thursfield and Nahas gifted Collingwood at least a couple of goals apiece thru bad mistakes.
They also cost us offensive scores either directly or by letting down teammates in link ups.
Our inexperienced kids like Grimes, Batchelor and Conca cost us a couple of goals thru rookie mistakes that are understandable.
We were missing a few of our more reliable players like McGuane and Moore. Tuck and Rance also.

I don't know whether Maxwell was fit or not, but if he was fit then Miller did a great job of keeping him busy and away from his usual third man up antics.
It was interesting that Shaw, O'Brien and Maxwell combined so poorly and gave them as little rebound as I've seen this year.     

[jackstar is back again]

The opposition paid Miller respect and everytime Miller did lead up, he was well checked., which drew the extra away from Jack.
interesting they didnt pay Vickery respect by having smaller option on him

[Penelope]

Normally I'm one of the most critical about our performances but I was not too upset about this big loss.

Our poor players like Edwards, Graham, White, Thursfield and Nahas gifted Collingwood at least a couple of goals apiece thru bad mistakes.
They also cost us offensive scores either directly or by letting down teammates in link ups.
Our inexperienced kids like Grimes, Batchelor and Conca cost us a couple of goals thru rookie mistakes that are understandable.
We were missing a few of our more reliable players like McGuane and Moore. Tuck and Rance also.

I don't know whether Maxwell was fit or not, but if he was fit then Miller did a great job of keeping him busy and away from his usual third man up antics.
It was interesting that Shaw, O'Brien and Maxwell combined so poorly and gave them as little rebound as I've seen this year.     

Redan, you give White a negative wrap but then say how quiet shaw was. Didnt white play on shaw and kick a couple of goals himself?

No mention of Martins shocking turnovers early that cost us goals either?

[Penelope]

The opposition paid Miller respect and everytime Miller did lead up, he was well checked., which drew the extra away from Jack.
interesting they didnt pay Vickery respect by having smaller option on him

Agree with you about Miller. As i posted earlier he gave us structure up forward that we have been sorely lacking. He is a hard working player who understands the structures. It's just a pity he cant win enough of the one on one contests he creates, but there doesn't seem to be anyone else putting their hand up to play this role at this time.

[WilliamPowell]

interesting they didnt pay Vickery respect by having smaller option on him

That's a good point you make Jack

In the last qtr Vickery was one out against a shorter opponent and didn't out mark, let alone out body him when he should have for memory Pies ended up clearing the ball very easily out of the defensive 50.

That one contest highlights what I see as the main problem with young Tyrone at times. He doesn't impose himself enough in contests. When he is up against a smaller bodied player he should win more than he looses IMHO

[jackstar is back again]

interesting they didnt pay Vickery respect by having smaller option on him

That's a good point you make Jack

In the last qtr Vickery was one out against a shorter opponent and didn't out mark, let alone out body him when he should have for memory Pies ended up clearing the ball very easily out of the defensive 50.

That one contest highlights what I see as the main problem with young Tyrone at times. He doesn't impose himself enough in contests. When he is up against a sammler body player he should win mor ethan he looses IMHO

and playing Miller demands respect, thus Maxwell goes to Miller

[RedanTiger]

It was interesting that Shaw, O'Brien and Maxwell combined so poorly and gave them as little rebound as I've seen this year.     

Redan, you give White a negative wrap but then say how quiet shaw was. Didnt white play on shaw and kick a couple of goals himself?

No mention of Martins shocking turnovers early that cost us goals either?
[/quote]

al, read what I posted don't make it up. I didn't say Shaw was quiet.
I just checked the stats and as I thought:
White 13 disposals with 4 clangers
Shaw 20 disposals with 2 clangers.
IIRC Whites clangers, as with Martins, were very costly.
I agree with you that Martin made some terrible clangers that cost goals. IMO it was unusual to see such poor, costly errors from Dusty.
By comparison Jackson made 6 clangers but I would say that his errors were not as costly as the other two.
 

[Penelope]

It was interesting that Shaw, O'Brien and Maxwell combined so poorly and gave them as little rebound as I've seen this year.     

Can you see how reading that I may have thought you were saying shaw (along with O'brien and Maxwell) had a quiet game?

[RedanTiger]

It was interesting that Shaw, O'Brien and Maxwell combined so poorly and gave them as little rebound as I've seen this year.     

Can you see how reading that I may have thought you were saying shaw (along with O'brien and Maxwell) had a quiet game?

Yep, agreed.
Defensive forward is a really hard job to judge. Just felt Matty made a lot of costly errors.
No more than my opinion.

[tiger101]

COLLINGWOOD'S Chris Dawes could miss the Magpies' Anzac Day clash with Essendon after being offered a one-match suspension for striking Richmond youngster Reece Conca.

Dawes was cited by the match review panel for making what was deemed negligent and high contact with Conca during the second quarter of Collingwood's big win over the Tigers on Friday night.

The offence attracted only a reprimand, but because Dawes had carryover points on his record and he faces a suspension even if he lodges an early guilty plea.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/111943/default.aspx

Here's a video of the strike if you cant remember it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NycO1ZSsN_U&feature=feedu

[jackstar is back again]

1 week, as it seems deliberate high contact

[one-eyed]

Leigh Brown got off though  


The match day report against Collingwood’s Leigh Brown for striking Richmond’s Reece Conca during the third quarter of Friday’s match was assessed. The panel said that Brown’s arm was held back by Richmond player Angus Graham as Conca was completing a mark, and Brown was attempting to reach the contest. It was the view of the panel that the retarding of Brown’s arm contributed to the contact, which was made with an open hand. The panel did not view his action as a reportable offence and no further action was taken.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/111941/default.aspx

[Penelope]

the leigh brown one was pretty soft

[jackfrost]

What will be a pass mark for us?  


Sportal is predicting a 75 point flogging 

This is the sort of game which could get really, really ugly for Tigers. They are ripe for the picking after being battered mentally and physically by the Hawks last week and Collingwood are convinced they are not playing their best football yet and need to improve. As one former player put it, they are a grasshopper stuck in a pen full of chooks.

It is hard to see a single part of the ground where the Tigers are going to get any joy .... It all adds up to a significant footballing lesson for the young Tigers, who will be happy to escape this one with a defeat under 50 points.

Collingwood by 75

Full preview here:
http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/preview-richmond-v-collingwood-118395

Quite an impressive call by Sportal, may have to look into their predications on the other games this past weekend.