Boys Boys boys im saying pelchen contributed to them winning the flag. Dew, Rioli, Gilham, Guerra all played their part in the flag.
Who cares about Pelchen or the Hawks. Do you want to start comparing FJ and Clayton now too then?
At the end of the day you guys think he has done well i dont. We digress
I do agree with one thing you said its one thing to recruit the right player yet you have to develop them which i still think is our major problem even more than that of our recruiting.
Now you've changed your tune, Hawthorn built there Premiership list basically from 2000-2004 drafts and picking up 3-4 decent AFL players since 2005.
FJ has done an excellent job pretty much since 2006, sure a few draft picks haven't worked out, but as I've pointed out we aren't the only team to screw up a pick or 2, in fact Hawthorn have only 3-4 players still on there list out of 48 draft picks.
I think FJ strike rate at the moment is looking quite good.
birchall, ellis and renouf also played significant roles in the gf and the season as a whole. thats about 7 or 8 and about a 3rd of the side roughly, take it easy know it all
So out of 6 top10 draft picks and a total of 10 top30 draft picks while using 48 draft picks in total for a return of 7-8 semi-standard players is a good strike rate is it?
And who says I'm a know it all? I'm merely offering a different opinion, people can bang on all they like about our waste of draft picks but simple fact is there are other clubs who waste the similar if not more amount of picks then us.
wtf are u going on abt? - Im just simply stating that 7-8 players played a role in that GF, thats not just bit part thats 1/3 of the friggen team, so bottom line is he helped them win a premiership and regardless of the crap picks in and around those - he still has a flag on his CV - something we all envy.... end of argument.
FJ has had 4 years to put together a list, pretty much since 2006-2010, with the picks FJ has had at his disposal and the limited resources FJ hasn't really wasted that many picks.
Pelchen pretty much did the same thing from 2000-2004 and everything after that has been a disaster, people were pointing out in this thread how the club wastes a lot of picks I'm merely pointing out that there are plenty of other teams who get plenty wrong also.
In fact if FJ goes on to waste another 40 odd draft picks top10 draft picks included mind you it would be safe to say these boards would go into meltdown.