Positives from today's game?

[Stripes]

Miller was another great positive for me from todays game. Showed he could kick goals and along with Vickery make our path to goal far less predictable for the oppositions defenders. While he won't be around in a few years, he is providing great structure and leadership down the forwardline which I hope someone such as Griffiths/Post/Astbury can then readily step into when they are well and truly ready.

As others have already mentioned - Helbig played a good game and was a beautiful kick for goal and in general play. Tough at the ball and not easily tackled or pushed aside either particularly considering he is still only 19 years old.

Conca played through the middle much more today and found the ball a great deal. He was very composed in space but showed his inexperience at times when under pressure especially physical pressure. Was fearful of making mistakes at times such as leaving the ball for a team mate when he was in the better position and looking for the safer target rather than the greater reward path.

Another huge positive is that we are playing very inexperienced kids and are still competitive. When you look at who was playing we had three kids playing from the draft - Conca, Batchelor and Helbig plus Grimes from the PSD. Four first year players is a big percentage of inexperience in any team but when you look at those around them who are barely much older including Martin, Vickery and Rance. Even the players we consider core experienced players such as Cotchin, Grigg, Houli, Edwards etc would be condered babies in almost any other team. People are probably sick of hearing this point but it's worth remembering.

[JVT]

Wallace team would have lost after a first quarter like that by 150 points. To lose by 35 is a positive, the kids just never gave up.

Have to say, yes the game was lost in the first, but the Umpires made some of the worst calls in that 3rd and 4th term. I think we had 2 free kicks after half time, in the 3rd they had 7 frees to our 0.

All the kids we drafted look great, we have a bright future ahead.

Gus is poo, putting in an extra midfielder to work off the opposition rucks hit outs would work better! I am sick of seeing his massive frame watching opposition ruck men at the bounce and not the ball, wailing his arms like a flacid tentacle when he realises he hasn't been hurt in the ruck contest to try and find the ball in the air, and then going to ground after like he has been hit by a sniper.

He walks around the ground when he isn't rucking looking at the grass as if he has lost his keys  How anyone can consider this lump of useless crap to be in the top 10 ruckmen in the league is a joke. Notice when Vickery went into the ruck we started to win some clearances? Put Vickery in the ruck against the bombers and Post into the Forward line. Or just bring in Browne, who cares how he went at Coburg, just get rid of Graham!

[Stripes]

I don't think there are few if any people an hear who don't think Gus, in his current form, is any more than a stop gap measure until Vickery can claim the No 1 Ruck position. The problem then would be who will become the Back Up Ruck? People throw names around such as Browne but I've never seen any evidence to suggest he will be the answer around the ground or up forward than Gus isn't. Post perhaps but he can't even fight his way into the team at present and Derickx is an unknown quanity. So we just have to suck it up in the short term.

[gerkin greg]

1, We fought it out.
2, Helbig & Vickery.

Cant bear to watch Graham. His good is average and his bad is very Adam pattisonish.

At least Patto was no pea heart.

Not his fault he was so slow, had no leap, and was poor overhead.... 

[wayne]

At least Patto was no pea heart.

Not his fault he was so slow, had no leap, and was poor overhead.... 

And much to short for a ruckman. 

[WilliamPowell]

Having had time to think about yesterday's game

Outside of Helbig I and not being thumped by 10 goals plus I can't find many positives

A bit like others I am getting 'jack of' of coming up with positives after losses

[gerkin greg]

yeah the last month of coming up with positives after a loss has got to me as well, wait what

[eliminator]

Didn't get thrashed. Martin is a class act. Nahas playing well as is Conca. Spread of goal kickers. Able to kick a high score against a good team.