Official Team for Round 12

[SPOCK]

IMO you don't need three tall forwards at the SCG as CHF gets bypassed most of the time. Jack and Vickery is enough and both more mobile and agile than a Miller. I'd rather Astbury ahead of Miller as Dave can play at either end as needed.

I don't see Jacko, Tucky and Hislop in the same side either with their imprecise footskills.

Farmer is very lucky. I know teamsheets these days means nothing but not sure why Mitch is named in a FP either.

Edwards in for Helbig.

Yep, Astbury very capable of not getting the ball at either end of the ground

[Coach]

Gourdis has played fairly well for Coburg from most reports and Astbury has been average, but Astbury sneaks onto our extended bench and Gourdis is named on the bench for Coburg. Unreal.Gourdis is gawn

[Mr Magic]

Gourdis is gawn

You'd think.

[eliminator]

Gourdis played well against Collingwood and was named in the best. Why is he on the Coburg bench? Would rather Tuck in than Hislop. Tuck has a proven track record Hislop doesn't Someone needs to curb influence of Bolton

[Dubstep Dookie]

Astbury was not convincing against Collingwood whatsoever. Looked completely out of his depth at times. Confidence must be down.

Gourdis was a lot better. His rebounding out of the back line was almost Rance like in taking the game on. The kicks I saw also were pin point over 40-50 metres.

[SPOCK]

Astbury and Gourdis are almost exact opposites:

Astbury positions himself very well, follows structures and thinks how he is going to get the ball, unfortunately at this stage he just doesn't get it, when he does his disposals are usually good but conservative
Gourdis positioning is often wrong and and he thinks less about structures,  but wins 90% of 1 on 1 contests and keeps finding the ball
when he does his disposals can be erratic but also exceptional he has hit 7 targets inside his forward 50 this year resulting in 6 goals
One thinks one does, a combination of the 2 would be good

[one-eyed]

Richmond

B: Chris Newman, Alex Rance, Bachar Houli

HB: Brett Deledio, Luke McGuane, Shaun Grigg

C: Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Reece Conca

HF: Jake King, Tyrone Vickery, Matthew White

F: Mitchell Farmer, Jack Riewoldt, Robin Nahas

Foll: Andrew Browne, Daniel Jackson, Nathan Foley

I/C: Shane Edwards, Tom Hislop, David Astbury, Brad Miller

Emg: Shane Tuck, Jeromey Webberley, Jake Batchelor

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In: Shane Edwards, Tom Hislop, David Astbury

Out: Shane Tuck, Jake Batchelor, Bradley Helbig

[one-eyed]

Sydney Swans final 22 as well for those interested. Kieren Jack has been included.

B: Ted Richards, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Alex Johnson
HB: Tadhg Kennelly, Heath Grundy, Martin Mattner
C: Rhyce Shaw, Jude Bolton, Nicholas Smith
HF: Ben McGlynn, Sam Reid, Josh P. Kennedy
F: Jarrad McVeigh, Adam Goodes, Ryan O'Keefe
Foll: Mark Seaby, Craig Bird, Daniel Hannebery
I/C: Kieren Jack, Nick Malceski, Lewis Jetta, Trent Dennis-Lane
Emg: Jarred Moore, Lewis Johnston, Andrejs Everitt

In: Kieren Jack
Out: Andrejs Everitt

[Stripes]

I think we'll miss Batchelor poise and desposal off the half back. I'm not sure if Astbury can offer this to the same degree. I'm happy with the inclusion of Edwards and Hislop deserves a go. Just hope Sloppy can lift our contested possession count.

[Coach]

stuff me, give Webberley a game. Farmer and Miller were both pathetic against Port

[Dubstep Dookie]

Is it just us, or are they too close to the action to see that Miller and Farmer are whack?

[Dice]

im hoping for:

Out: Miller, Tuck, Farmer

In: Astbury, Hislop, Edwards

Got your wish with the ins Willy B 

Clearly Dimma loves Farmer and as JT said , Astbury getting a gig ahead of Gourdis is writing on the wall. Gourdis has been clearly better at VFL level recently

[WilliamPowell]

Only surprise for me with the outs is Batchelor

Tuck & Helbig are both non surprises but Batchelor certainly was - would've flicked Farmer first

[Dice]

would've flicked Farmer first

Yeh maybe ? jury is out for me. The MC see things we don't with him I reckon. When he's fit he gets picked.

[Tigeritis™©®]

Farmer can kick the footy,  problem is he handballs too much. He's goto back himself in and bang it in long to the goalsquare.