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Re: Foley what a gun!
« Reply #150 on: May 11, 2008, 08:24:34 PM »
yep he sure played a good game Axle, but wait till he gets back to playing with the duds he go back to normal  ;D

What do you mean?  THat's how he plays for us every week.  ???
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Re: Foley what a gun!
« Reply #151 on: May 12, 2008, 12:35:00 AM »
Certainly looked like he belonged in that company and then some.
His clearance work tonight was top shelf.
I'm glad he plays for us.
I honestly thought his name should have been thrown around when they were discussing a possible medal winner.  It was his work in and under that got Victoria going and if you get a chance to watch the replay, have a look at how hard he worked all game - both in the packs and running to provide a link up.  He was the best midfielder on the ground and in that company it was no mean feat.
Agree smokey. Disappointing Fev didn't recognise Foley in his medal speech when he was thanking the mids as Axel passed it to Fev for his first 2 goals. Before Foley came on the dreamteam were all over the Vics in the centre.
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Re: Foley what a gun!
« Reply #152 on: May 12, 2008, 01:50:55 PM »
Something different is in the air
Mark Robinson | May 12, 2008

He [Thompson] points at Nathan Foley. "What a surprise you're in the side. Do you know why you're in the side? You win your own ball and you're tough.

"That's what we love, the two of us [Thompson and Sheeds]. We have picked hard, ruthless competitors."

............................

Foley wasn't far behind Fev. He had a ball in his hands for the next two hours, bouncing it, kicking it to himself, banging it against the walls.

At 22, and from the rookie list, his story is one of persistence. Richmond teammate Troy Simmonds said: "I think he's nervous, but I think everybody will be a little bit."

Simmonds was on the carpet stretching his big body. "I've got a bit of nerves at the moment," he said.

"I'm trying to keep calm and then build it up before the first bounce."

Wallace went straight to Foley and Simmonds. "He's a quiet-natured kid, but he would be loving this. This is huge for him," he said of Foley.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23681520-19742,00.html

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Re: Foley what a gun!
« Reply #153 on: May 12, 2008, 01:52:54 PM »
Robbo was on SEN calling Foley a "gun". "We knew what he can do as we see it every week but to see him win so much footy in that elite company was great to see. He said coming off the rookie list to run around for the Big V is one of the best stories in footy."

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Re: Foley what a gun!
« Reply #154 on: May 12, 2008, 07:03:36 PM »
Schwarz is also on the Foley bandwagon. He didn't realise he was that quick.

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Re: Foley what a gun!
« Reply #155 on: May 12, 2008, 08:34:10 PM »
what the hell are some of these commentators on half the time, they obviously dont go to the game and watch the football.

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Foley was nearly a Dee
« Reply #156 on: May 13, 2008, 02:16:50 AM »
Foley was nearly a Dee
Jon Ralph | May 13, 2008 12:00am

RICHMOND midfielder Nathan Foley has emerged as the one that got away from Melbourne. For nearly a decade, Richmond has been known as the club that passed up Matthew Pavlich and Lance Franklin.

Now with Foley fresh from a devastating performance for Victoria in the Hall of Fame game, the Tigers have started to redress the balance.

Richmond snatched Foley from Melbourne despite its interest in the Geelong Falcon after a pre-season training with the Demons.

Back then, Foley was a run-of-the-mill midfielder with poor disposal and a question mark on his pace.

But Richmond and the Demons saw enough of his potential to want his services.

Melbourne took Aaron Davey at pick three in the 2004 rookie draft and had hoped to select Foley next.

But Richmond pounced at pick four and has watched Foley transform into a midfield star.

The Demons had the chance to take Davey in the pre-season draft, then pick up Foley before Richmond in the rookie draft.

Instead, it is believed the coaching department over-ruled the recruiting team and took former West Coast Eagle Phil Read.

Ironically, former Demons recruiting manager Craig Cameron moved to Richmond last year and yesterday confirmed Melbourne's interest.

"We invited him (Foley) down to train with us after he missed the draft. There was a bit of concern about his kicking and maybe his speed. He just didn't show what he was showing us now as a young fella," Cameron said.

"He came down and did a pre-season with us and we were sitting next to Richmond at the rookie draft table, and we picked Aaron Davey, and they picked Nathan the very next pick."

Both Melbourne and Richmond say his meteoric rise is due to his determination.

"The key to him is how hard he has worked himself. He is extraordinarily quick, but we wouldn't have ever considered that as a junior," Cameron said.

 "He worked with (fitness expert) Bohdan Babijczuk and he's totally changed his leg speed. We all just thought of him as a smallish midfielder, but he has worked his bum off."

Cameron was aware of Foley's weaknesses but saw in him the type of ball-winning ability few could match.

"I liked the way he could take the ball off a pack, but he was one of those guys who was easy to miss first time around," he said.

"You often get asked the question, 'How could you miss this bloke', but sometimes they mature at different ages.

"The skinny kid with nice movement and nice hands, you can see he's going to develop, but with chunky midfielders, you don't often look at them and say, 'He has got a lot of development left in him'."

As for the decision not to take Davey in the pre-season draft, Cameron said: "Everyone can make their own conclusions. Obviously, we could have picked him and we didn't. I am happy to wear that if people want to criticise me on it."

Remarkably, Richmond had only one rookie selection in 2004 and 2005 because of financial pressures, and took Foley and full-back Will Thursfield.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23688612-19742,00.html

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Wallace praises Foley’s Judd-like qualities (RFC)
« Reply #157 on: May 13, 2008, 02:55:38 PM »
Wallace praises Foley’s Judd-like qualities
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Mic Cullen
1:48 PM Tue 13 May, 2008

RICHMOND has a Chris Judd?

So says Terry Wallace.

Fear not, the Richmond coach isn't getting carried away with the form of young Tiger Nathan Foley on the back of the Hall of Fame tribute match and the season so far, but he has compared him to the Brownlow Medallist in one aspect.

"He's been in good form for us, but it's very difficult – what he actually does is he allows us to get a bit more time and freedom in the game," Wallace said. "Juddy going to Carlton has probably released some of their other midfielders not to get the same attention.

"That's what Nathan does for us."

But Wallace warned that while the tribute game would have been good for the 22-year-old's confidence, this weekend's match against Geelong at the MCG on Saturday afternoon would be a vastly different affair to last Saturday night's free-wheeling exhibition match.

"I think Nathan understands that he was given more time and space in that game than what he would be afforded in a normal game of footy, so you put it in perspective.

"I think any player playing at the elite level and getting the realisation that they can step up to that level and play gains a degree of confidence about it, but there's a reality about what that means in relation to the next game of footy you're playing.

"I wouldn't suggest that Cameron Ling's going to give him that much room and space on the weekend, so I think he's genuine enough to put it in the right perspective."

Wallace said the general public was finally caching up to opposition teams' assessment of Foley due to the fact that the Tigers were travelling better this season.

"We haven't been a strong side over the last couple of seasons, I suppose, so there's not a lot of attention goes to sides outside the eight.

"But he wouldn't have gone into a game over the last half of last year and the first seven games of this year where he hasn't been tagged.

"He's our number one targeted player every game that he plays."

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=59522

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Re: Wallace praises Foley’s Judd-like qualities (RFC)
« Reply #158 on: May 13, 2008, 10:10:32 PM »
"He's our number one targeted player every game that he plays."
Hopefully in the next few years with Axel, Blingers, Cotch, Lids, Connors and others in the midfield, the opposition won't be able to tag them all and we can maintain quality in the midfield via our rotations throughout each game.
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Re: Wallace praises Foley’s Judd-like qualities (RFC)
« Reply #159 on: May 13, 2008, 10:45:52 PM »
"He's our number one targeted player every game that he plays."
Hopefully in the next few years with Axel, Blingers, Cotch, Lids, Connors and others in the midfield, the opposition won't be able to tag them all and we can maintain quality in the midfield via our rotations throughout each game.

hear hear..let's not forget about cogs and MAYBE daniel rich..

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Re: Wallace praises Foley’s Judd-like qualities (RFC)
« Reply #160 on: May 13, 2008, 11:54:59 PM »

hear hear..let's not forget about cogs and MAYBE daniel rich..

you mean ol' Quintin ?  :lol

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Foley not fazed after Big V heroics (sportal)
« Reply #161 on: May 15, 2008, 02:16:49 PM »
Foley not fazed after Big V heroics
15/05/2008 12:53:00 PM
Paul Gough
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Richmond coach Terry Wallace says his star midfielder Nathan Foley is smart enough to realise he won't be afforded the same space on Saturday when the Tigers take on reigning premier Geelong at the MCG as he was when he made such a big impression while playing for Victoria in last week's Hall of Fame match.

"I suppose from a personal point of view he (Foley) is a quiet guy and he is not out there pushing his own barrow at all."

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http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/foley-not-fazed-after-big-v-heroics-48463

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Eye on the Tiger (AGE - Nathan Foley)
« Reply #162 on: May 17, 2008, 08:57:37 AM »
Eye on the Tiger

Rohan Connolly | May 17, 2008 - 1:42AM

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/eye-on-the-tiger/2008/05/17/1210765193012.html



State games have a habit of announcing the arrival of a genuine AFL star to a wider football audience.

It happened, memorably, back in 1984, when a bloke called Gary Ablett kicked eight goals from a half-forward flank for Victoria in Perth. It was the case when Collingwood youngster Gavin Brown won the E.J. Whitten Medal in front of almost 90,000 people at the MCG in 1989. A decade later, with a North Melbourne kid named Brent Harvey.

And it might just have happened again in last Saturday night's Hall of Fame game, the subject this time being Richmond midfielder Nathan Foley. Certainly, there were a few knowing smiles on the faces of Richmond's football department as Foley continually cut a swathe through the MCG centre square, his blistering pace followed up with some damaging disposal.

The Tigers knew that their man, already a vice-captain and a best-and-fairest runner-up, had it in him. But there was a certain satisfaction in watching those without a penchant for the yellow-and-black suddenly cottoning on, too, the refrain along the lines of: "How good is this bloke?"

Funnily enough, it was a realisation perhaps even pondered by Foley himself. After all, he'd been as star-struck as any fan when the Victorian squad had assembled for its first training run before the match.

"I pretty much hadn't met any of them (his teammates) going into it," he says of mixing with the likes of Chris Judd and Jonathan Brown.

"That first training run, you're almost in awe. It was massive, an amazing experience, the whole few days. Just to get to know those blokes a bit better and watch how everyone prepared."

Not that the affable 22-year-old from Colac has much to learn on that score. Foley's thirst for football learning and hard work on and off the track is already becoming the stuff of legend at Punt Road.

There's the countless hours he spends with Richmond assistant coaches Brian Royal and David King watching tapes of his own game and those of the AFL's elite. The extra running, having put himself through his own sprint training. Extra weights, overseen by the club's elite performance manager Matt Hornsby to make sure Foley isn't overdoing it.

"I've watched a lot of tape of Gary Ablett jnr and Chris Judd and those sorts of blokes. I try to do a few things here and there - more than is required - as do a lot of blokes," he says, modestly. "That's just the way footy is now. As a midfielder, it's about winning your own ball and clearances, but also making sure you're damaging with your forward-line entries and with kicking goals. I suppose it's just about continuing your improvement across all areas, because the moment you don't keep improving, the game can go past you."

Not that there appears much chance of that, given the amount of ground Foley has made up on the game since missing out on selection in the 2003 national draft and being thrown a lifeline by the Tigers via the rookie list.

In fact, Foley is barely recognisable from the player who made his senior debut in mid-2005, the same evening that feted teammate Nathan Brown broke his leg. Just ask King, an unashamed fan.

"It's been the most remarkable development of a player in a short space of time that I've seen," he says. "I can't remember anyone in just 60-odd games being able to come so quickly from where he was . . . basically a ball-getting clearance player to being able to do damage every time he touches the footy and being able to impact the scoreboard the way he's able to.

"A guy like 'Buddy' Franklin can come on to the scene as a genuine star, but his weapons now have always been his weapons. What Nathan's been able to do is be an excellent stoppage player, but then to be able to develop the whole breadth of his game.

"The run and carry, the busting through lines, the goalkicking - I haven't seen anyone in my time reconfigure their whole game like he has so quickly. But he still wants to get better. Even now, he'll still be looking for another edge to go that next step."

That admiration is clearly mutual. Having spent two seasons with under-18 side Geelong Falcons, Foley was more hopeful than expectant of being drafted late in 2003. He acknowledges why he wasn't and the help he's been given in rectifying those perceived flaws. "I probably used to just get the ball and get rid of it," he says.

"I think there were questions about my pace, and I was probably considered more of a 'grab and hack' player, just get the ball and get it on.

"That's where 'Kingy' and Brian Royal have been able to help me. You rely on your coaches so much, and they and 'Plough' (senior coach Terry Wallace) have been of huge assistance in helping me transform my game."

The big pay-off came last year with a superb season where he was pipped at the post by veteran teammate Matthew Richardson for the best and fairest. Foley averaged 24 disposals and five clearances a game, and importantly, hit the target with 78% of his touches.

That form has simply flowed on into 2008. While it's "Richo" who has captured most of the limelight, it's Foley who is ranked No. 1 at his club for contested possession, handballs, clearances (10 more centre clearances than any teammate), hard-ball gets and score assists.

Then there's that capacity simply to carry the ball. Fast. Having ended 2007 the AFL's No. 1-ranked player for running bounces, it's hard to believe now there could ever have been a doubt about his pace.

It's just a confidence thing, he shrugs, and a fair bit of work. Says King: "He wasn't using all his assets, didn't show it in his game. Now you can see his speed, he actually plays quick.

"I think he wants to put players to the sword now. When he gets the ball, he wants to impose himself, make players chase him, or embarrass them by taking them on and sidestepping them. That's been the single biggest improvement."

The essential ingredient, however - hunger - has always been there, though, from the time Foley was a little kid growing up in Colac.

His father, Denis, known universally as "Shunter" after working with the goods carriages on the train lines, was a wingman with Colac and South Colac. His mum, Sue, played a lot of basketball.

Foley snr used to take the local Auskick clinic, where Nathan's older brother Ben was a regular. The youngest Foley child didn't need much convincing to have a crack as well. "We were only an hour away from Geelong, so we used to go to most home games and watch Gary Ablett snr play a fair bit," he recalls. "I just jumped into it at a really young age, then just went through the ranks, under 12s, 14s, then with the Falcons in under-15 and 16 carnivals. Once you start making those rep squads, you sort of get a desire to go further."

That, of course, meant packing up and moving to Melbourne once he'd been made a rookie by the Tigers. Leaving the nest carried its share of sacrifice, with Foley's parents the "major influence on my life".

At first, he'd head back there whenever the opportunity arose. But not so much now. Denis and Sue make it up from Colac for virtually every Richmond game. Home is a house shared with a couple of old mates studying in Melbourne. "I'm really comfortable here now," he muses.

And very comfortable with a still relatively low profile. He can't remember being recognised whilst out and about, he says, with a sense of mild relief.

Age photographer John Donegan, sitting in on this interview, then confesses that while in the Victorian rooms pre-game last Saturday, he didn't recognise Foley, either. The sort of quip that might completely deflate a healthy ego. Foley just chuckles. That's fine with him.

But he's smart enough to know that after last year's stellar season, and especially after last Saturday, it's not going to be the case much longer. To that end, and with the same diligence that he has worked on his game, Foley last year pursued some media training off his own bat.

It's already coming in handy. Particularly since being made, along with Chris Newman, a vice-captain to Kane Johnson at the start of the season, a role where he is also making a big impression.

"If there's something to say, he'll say it," King says. "He won't say things just for the sake of being heard, but I can tell you what he says is 100% accurate. He says things when they need to be said, and that, to me, is worth a lot more."

As for the experience of wearing the Big V, King has no doubt what that will be worth. "That's been the real bonus for us, to have him play in that game and rub shoulders with those guys," King says. "It was only a few days, but the impact that's going to have on him . . ."

King, clearly relishing that prospect, doesn't need to finish. Richmond might already have known, but now the entire AFL community is aware a new star has been born. And one who might still have a fair way to soar yet.

ANALYSIS

NATHAN Foley was disappointed but not devastated when he missed out on selection at the 2003 national draft. He still had time to prove his worth to AFL clubs. And he had the rookie list.

When the rookie draft began in 1997, more than a decade after the birth of the big-ticket national draft, its profile was seen as something of a consolation prize, an encouragement award to those considered not quite safe enough bets for the senior list. That profile changed considerably and quickly.

That very first rookie draft spawned some great success stories. A future Essendon premiership player in Mark Johnson. Melbourne stalwarts James McDonald and Russell Robertson. A future All-Australian defender in Nathan Bassett.

There's been a long roll call of AFL talent since who began as rookies. Dean Cox. Brett Kirk. Brad Sewell. Chad Fletcher, Tarkyn Lockyer. Dean Brogan. Stephen Milne. Ben Rutten. Nathan Bock. And so on.

The 2004 rookie draft in which Foley was picked at No. 4 was particularly fruitful. Melbourne, with whom Foley had spent the pre-season, had plumped for Aaron Davey the pick before. Carlton had already taken Andrew Carrazzo, now a best-and-fairest winner.

Already in 2008, rookies have made an impression. Melbourne upgraded Austin Wonaeamirri to its senior list a couple of weeks ago in time for him to kick four goals, help the Demons win their first victory of the season and earn a Rising Star nomination in the process. Melbourne has promoted Shane Valenti this week.

Rookies are no longer players who might plug a hole on a senior list if the injury gods fail to smile upon a particular club.

With the pace and intensity of the modern game inevitably taking at least some sort of toll on virtually every side's playing stocks, there's every likelihood they will be called upon to play a key role in proceedings.

Like in 2001, with reigning premier Essendon still apparently invincible. A sudden spate of injuries, including one to centreman Joe Misiti, forced the Bombers to promote onballer Damien Peverill.

So successful was the previously little-regarded midfielder that when Misiti was fit again and Peverill had to return to the rookie list, the Bombers lost much of their midfield momentum.

Foley, whilst still a kid himself when made a rookie, had at least played two seasons of TAC football with Geelong Falcons. He'd spend another full year playing alongside and against fully developed bodies with Coburg in the VFL before he made his debut with Richmond.

Come draft time, it will always be the likes of Bryce Gibbs and Matthew Kreuzer who command the spotlight. But Foley is living proof that the far less-heralded players taken in the rookie draft can end up having every bit as big an impact on AFL football.

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Foley OP rumour - 3aw
« Reply #163 on: August 12, 2008, 06:35:55 PM »
Healy on 3aw says 'whispers' thinks Foley has OP. Caro said he's listed with a hip injury isn't he.

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Re: Foley OP rumour - 3aw
« Reply #164 on: August 13, 2008, 07:27:16 PM »
Let's hope this is just another rubbish 3aw rumour. Axel should be rested immediately otherwise unlike what happened when Spud kept playing Cogs.
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