I said if u want to get a good ruckman+,trade lids or stfu.
Ox, my learned colleague, I agree with you that to trade for something decent we need to trade out something decent.
Foley has value in the market place. If that could get a decent ruckman in exchange for Foley then it needs to be considered before Lids. Personally I wouldn't trade Lids. Outside of Lids; Cotchin, Martin and Reiwoldt are the only ones I look at putting the "not for trade" signs on at the minute
I was going to suggest the same thing WP but I'll go a step further, I would be happy to use Foley as trade currency for the GWS '17-year old trade' or someone such as Butcher/Moore/Carlie (sp?). I'd love to keep him for depth but he is no longer a player you build a midfield around let alone a side where any of the three I mentioned above, the GWS 17 year old or a quality 1st stringer ruckman, would be. We may even have to sweeten the deal with an additonal late pick but it could be well worth it.
Just as an aside, I know one of the skills coaches at the Kanga's and they are prepared to play hard ball for MacIntosh. He is no longer in their plans but he was AA not long a go so any club that comes fishing can expect to pay over the odds for him.
May not be worth the effort but perhaps, given our well publicised ruck problems and desperate need for a ruckman, all clubs will be following a similar line.
Perhaps we should wait a year until free trading comes in and aim for a Trengrove who could help in the short term? I don't want to sell off our picks for average players.....
Oh and another thing, he went down to see the Coburg game too and was surprized by how little talent we have coming through. No one seems to be putting their hands up with all our young talent already playing. I hope his judgement is wrong.