Why do people always blame the coach

[Penelope]

i dont think you appreciate where exactly where we are coming from though jamie.

we were so poo in nearly every aspect of running a footballl club it's not funny.

i think you expect the improvement to come on in an unrealistic time frame.

It's a bit like pantene.

[Jackstar is back again]

i dont think you appreciate where exactly where we are coming from though jamie.

we were so poo in nearly every aspect of running a footballl club it's not funny.

i think you expect the improvement to come on in an unrealistic time frame.

It's a bit like pantene.

Sorry, but I dont see much improvement at all.. the last 6-8 weeks has confirmed my views

[WilliamPowell]

club needs to bite the bullett and sack him at years end
Clearly not up to the task at hand.
Anybody who thinks he is ,wants the club to fail

 

Sack him after less than 2 years based on perfomrances over an 8 week period

That's a really smart way to do things

Fair dinkum no wonder the media call us "feral". 

We (supporters) are so bloody predictable outside of being sort of sad - it's actually pathetic.

Get grip for crying out loud

Every single person on this forum predicted we'd get beaten by at least 10 goals, with a number believing we'd get done by 100 pts +

Guess what everything people were expecting happened but the way some are carrying on you'd think we were actually some sort of chance today 

Guess what we weren't

And as someone who did go - can I say that the result was what I expected and in the 2nd half there were a few (not many) but a few postives and if the usual suspects refuse to see it let alone want to acknowledge then you deserve wallow in your self inflicted misery

[Penelope]

i dont think you appreciate where exactly where we are coming from though jamie.

we were so poo in nearly every aspect of running a footballl club it's not funny.

i think you expect the improvement to come on in an unrealistic time frame.

It's a bit like pantene.

Sorry, but I dont see much improvement at all.. the last 6-8 weeks has confirmed my views

yet in the 6-8 weeks before contardicted your views? and we didnt hear too much from you.

well at least you acknowledge there has been some improvement, just not enough to satisfy your lofty expectations

[Jackstar is back again]

No improvement on what I seen today, did u go today Al ??

[Jackstar is back again]

club needs to bite the bullett and sack him at years end
Clearly not up to the task at hand.
Anybody who thinks he is ,wants the club to fail

 

Sack him after less than 2 years based on perfomrances over an 8 week period

That's a really smart way to do things

Fair dinkum no wonder the media call us "feral". 

We (supporters) are so bloody predictable outside of being sort of sad - it's actually pathetic.

Get grip for crying out loud

Every single person on this forum predicted we'd get beaten by at least 10 goals, with a number believing we'd get done by 100 pts +

Guess what everything people were expecting happened but the way some are carrying on you'd think we were actually some sort of chance today 

Guess what we weren't

And as someone who did go - can I say that the result was what I expected and in the 2nd half there were a few (not many) but a few postives and if the usual suspects refuse to see it let alone want to acknowledge then you deserve wallow in your self inflicted misery

I did go.
Hard decisions need to be made.
all supporters i spoke to after the game all agreed chnages have to be made

[Jackstar is back again]

its clear that hardwick aint up to it.
Read his press release

[Jackstar is back again]

i am appalled at his reason for not playing Tuck due to team balance, but plays favorites like Jackson, White and Edwards who you wouldnt pee on

[the claw]

Easy to blame the coach. Expendible after two three five years.
Players at the RFC are 10 year projects and they are superstars. Under a decent coach they would be premiers.
Hence we loved the romantic idea of getting Sheeds and now we want Malthouse.

IMHO Dimma needs to delist 10 and continue the journey he started in August two years ago.
The legacy of the previous coach who had 5 years has hamstrung this club and will do so for the next 2 years.
Can't blame Dimma for that.
By October 31 this year there should be about 10 players left who were on the list of 42 after our round 22 game in 2009 against West Coast.

Otherwise if Dimma doesn't bite the bullet and make a hard call on blokes like Jako and Edwards his senior coaching career will probably be over after one term.

good post and agree. just one little disagreement its the legacy of the previous two coaches and one greg miller accompanied by one greg beck. look at the holes in the list and you will see this is so.

and yes dimma needs to make a statement as well as clean out the dead wood.  imo jackson 8yrs, connors 5yrs, edwards 5 yrs, morton 7yrs, white 7yrs are 5 senior players whos time is up. these blokes and players just like them will crucify hardwick if he keeps them.
more pain next yr for sure but still going in the right direction if he does something like this.

[yellowandback]

I agree with J'stars comments on Hardwicks mistakes, let's face it - he has pretty much had a good run from supporters until the last 6 weeks but there have been some howlers that cannot be overlooked.

His mistakes are an unfortunate byproduct of being a novice to AFL Senior Coaching and with a young, raw & inexperienced team of assistants - no one around to guide him.

I don't think Dimma is beneath criticism and there are a few paranoid posters who are confusing criticism for calls for his sacking.

Quite simple, if he continues to perform like the last 8 weeks into next year, he can't stay.

I doubt that will happen, he can be a good match day coach and providing he doesn't compromise his standards, the performance will improve. He has proven to be a steady hand so far but he can't be expected to it by himself.

The whole club needs to find a couple of wins between now and years end, it would be a huge fillip for players,coach & club.

[WilliamPowell]

I did go.
Hard decisions need to be made.
all supporters i spoke to after the game all agreed chnages have to be made

I agree hard decisions need to be made, that isn't in dispute but your defintion of a hard decision is to sack another coach (as always) rather making hard decsions on players.

I said this once before and I will say it again sackiong a coach is not a hard decision it is actually the easiest decision any board can make, it also happens to be the cowards way of running a footy club

I reckon eveyone of the 47k+ members we have would say hard decisions need to be made  

That's why I have been advocating that we need to be prepared to trade one of our maybe two players out that have some form of currency so we can get either a decent ruckman or an early draft pick. That would be a hard decision.  

Now I hate to rain on your parade but the coach isn't going to be sacked (and yes he has made mistakes) so rather than continually belting him around the ears is going to change things

[Hellenic Tiger]

club needs to bite the bullett and sack him at years end
Clearly not up to the task at hand.
Anybody who thinks he is ,wants the club to fail

 

Sack him after less than 2 years based on perfomrances over an 8 week period

That's a really smart way to do things

Fair dinkum no wonder the media call us "feral".  

We (supporters) are so bloody predictable outside of being sort of sad - it's actually pathetic.

Get grip for crying out loud

Every single person on this forum predicted we'd get beaten by at least 10 goals, with a number believing we'd get done by 100 pts +

Guess what everything people were expecting happened but the way some are carrying on you'd think we were actually some sort of chance today  

Guess what we weren't

And as someone who did go - can I say that the result was what I expected and in the 2nd half there were a few (not many) but a few postives and if the usual suspects refuse to see it let alone want to acknowledge then you deserve wallow in your self inflicted misery

I did go.
Hard decisions need to be made.
all supporters i spoke to after the game all agreed chnages have to be made

Which supporters the ones who knew this was going to be one way traffic from early on so they retreated into the bar to have a few ales and save the RFC.

[TigerLand]

Add the best player in the competetion - Chris Judd, and the club improves.
Add the best coach in teh competetion - Mick Malthouse and who knows.

Hardwick isn't the best coach going around but we need better players not better coaching. Simple as that.

[Francois Jackson]

If Edwards, Jackson, and White, to name my worst 3 performers are at the club next year and still playing in the first's, then 2012 will be Dimmas last. You can almost guarantee that because its almost like playing with 3 less men such is the impact that these 3 duds have.

Said it for 3 years Edwards is the most softest player i have seen put on the boots at our club. The only player that comes close is Tambling, No one else. How he gets a game ahead of a witches hat is mind boggling. If he makes it to 100 games il drop some manure on Dimmas head.

Adding to that if he is that dumb to hold onto currency players like Foley and one of King/Nahas then maybe he deserves to go at the end of 2012.

[TigerLand]

If Edwards, Jackson, and White, to name my worst 3 performers are at the club next year and still playing in the first's, then 2012 will be Dimmas last. You can almost guarantee that because its almost like playing with 3 less men such is the impact that these 3 duds have.

Said it for 3 years Edwards is the most softest player i have seen put on the boots at our club. The only player that comes close is Tambling, No one else. How he gets a game ahead of a witches hat is mind boggling. If he makes it to 100 games il drop some manure on Dimmas head.

Adding to that if he is that dumb to hold onto currency players like Foley and one of King/Nahas then maybe he deserves to go at the end of 2012.

Pretty spot on.


I think the best thing out of all of this is that somehow we're all in agreeance that the bottom tier of players just all need to be moved on. And its bleeding obvious who they are.

I for one would like Dimma to stay, but also agree if he doesn't make these decisions he's probably gone.