Stopping the boats

[tiga]

Sorry Bent's, you lose. Godwin's Law has been invoked. 

[Judge Roughneck]

Burn the witch
 Gas the Jews

...

[Diocletian]

[dwaino]

Fortress were a really good band.

[Chuck17]

I liked Man O War

[dwaino]

All men play on 10. Never gonna turn it down again.

[Judge Roughneck]

Still LMFAO over "client"

So what do we call them?

Italy rescues more than 700 migrants in Mediterranean as PM urges EU action

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-25/italy-rescues-more-than-700-migrants/5047450



but this doesnt dehumanize them enough. so we should stick with boat people, stanty eyes, sanddiggers etc. 

[Judge Roughneck]

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[1965]

Tony is stopping the boats.   


Jakarta sparks boat standoff
Date November 9, 2013
 Michael Bachelard, Natalie O'Brien and David Wroe

Indonesia has declared it will refuse to take back asylum seekers rescued by Australian ships unless there is a threat to their lives, as a standoff between the countries continued off Java on Friday night.

Australia's demands that Indonesia accept 63 asylum seekers plucked from a boat has brought the blunt refusal by Jakarta.

As an Australian boat carrying the asylum seekers inched closer to Indonesia late on Friday, the impasse was further damaging relations already strained by revelations of widespread spying from the Australian embassy in Jakarta.



The incident began when the Australian Rescue Co-ordination Centre notified Indonesia of a distress call from a boat 57 nautical miles south of Indonesia about 9.30am on Thursday.

The boat reported engine trouble but according to the Indonesian search and rescue agency Basarnas, when navy vessel HMAS Ballarat arrived about three hours later, the crew found the engine was working.

The Australian vessel sailed away. "After they left, the engine apparently really was broken," said Basarnas deputy officer in charge, Adi Fachroni Azis.

It is understood the Australian customs ship Ocean Protector then joined the vessel to ensure its safety and sailed alongside it towards Indonesia, as it asked Indonesia to collect the asylum seekers. In the early hours of the morning, the boat's 63 passengers were shifted onto the Australian ship.

It is unclear whether they had sabotaged the boat's engine after the Ballarat left them, but if they did, it would highlight the risk of any Australian policy of trying to turn seaworthy boats back to Indonesia.

Indonesia's Co-ordinating Minister for Legal, Political and Security Affairs, Djoko Suyanto, rammed home his country's refusal to take the asylum seekers in a text message to the ABC late on Friday.

''The Indonesian government never agreed to such wishes or policies by Australia,'' he said. ''We have expressed this point of view since the Rudd government and there are no changes in our policy in relation to asylum seekers who want to go to Australia in the current Tony Abbott government. Australia already has its own detention centres in Nauru and PNG so they should send these asylum seekers [there], not to Indonesia.''

Ocean Protector, with the rescued asylum seekers on board, moved closer to Java on Friday as Immigration Minister Scott Morrison tried to persuade minister Djoko Suyanto to send a boat to take the people back to Indonesia.

Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa outlined a new harder line by Jakarta.

Asked if Jakarta would take asylum seekers from Australian vessels if safety of life at sea was not an issue, he said: "Under what circumstance are we bringing them to Indonesia? There wouldn't be any apparent need for them to be brought back to Indonesia".

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/jakarta-sparks-boat-standoff-20131108-2x77g.html#ixzz2k4nRHsH2

[1965]

Tony Abbott is fast becoming the most incompetent PM in recent History.

The man is a bumbling fool who thinks he can just bully countries to get what he wants.


Abbott plays politics with diplomacy
 
November 9, 2013

Tom Allard
 

Once again the Abbott government has needlessly antagonised Indonesia. Attempting to return a vessel laden with asylum seekers to Indonesia at a time when the country is furious about Fairfax Media's revelations of Australian spying activity across the archipelago was dumb.

To do it while Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop and Defence Minister David Johnston were in Indonesia was pointlessly provocative and only added to the likelihood Australia would be rebuffed.

Returning boats to Indonesia is hardly critical operationally to stemming the flow of asylum seekers to Australia. It is a purely political policy. Abbott needs to show the Australian public he can, indeed, turn back the boats. But Labor's PNG Solution has already done most of the new government's work for it. Yet Abbott and his Immigration Minister Scott Morrison keep pushing, apparently blase about the anger it provokes in Indonesia, where issues of sovereignty remain acute after centuries of colonialism.
Also undercutting the government's authority is the dome of secrecy it has placed over information. Morrison's press conference on Friday was a farce as he declined to inform the Australian public what was actually going on with the boat stand-off.

In Jakarta on Friday, the same principle was being applied, with potential diplomatic ramifications as Senator Johnston failed to appear at a highly anticipated press conference.

A large pool of Indonesian media were waiting to hear from our new Defence Minster, encouraged by comments on Thursday by Indonesian Defence Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro that they should turn up and find out directly from the Australian about the extent of our wire-tapping operations across the archipelago.

Instead, Senator Johnston hot-footed it out of the capital, citing a prior engagement in Perth and leaving Purnomo to explain his absence.

The Indonesian press corps were fuming. It was the second time in little over a month that they had been denied access to an Australian leader. Abbott's refusal to allow them to attend his press conference when he visited earned a formal rebuke from the local journalists' union.

Senator Johnston's office said they never intended to attend any press conference and that the meeting between the two men went ''well''.

Even so, the snub - real or perceived - is important. The Indonesian press has been generally savage in its assessment of the two issues undermining ties between the countries: asylum seekers and surveillance.

Whether it was a misunderstanding or not, the Indonesian press will likely remain riled, and that means more unfavourable stories and broadcasts.

The deep disquiet within the Indonesian government on both fronts is real, but the public anger fuelled by the media only encourages Jakarta to respond firmly.

Abbott insisted on Friday that ''we've got good and improving co-operation with Indonesia''.

The reality is quite different. Indonesia's threat to withdraw from intelligence co-operation on people smuggling remains on the table, despite - or perhaps because of - the latest Australian diplomatic foray.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/abbott-plays-politics-with-diplomacy-20131108-2x72i.html#ixzz2k6s2xOqW

[Judge Roughneck]

Foreign policy consists of peeing of Asians and staving Africans? 

Not much of an upgrade on Pauline is it?

[Penelope]

 

[1965]

Scott Morrison shown to the lying prick that he is.

I really don't know how voters were sucked in by this lot.


Abbott's boat policy fails test

Date November 10, 2013
Michael Bachelard and Natalie O'brien


Prime Minister Tony Abbott's policy to turn back asylum seekers has failed a significant test, with 63 boat people arriving on Christmas Island after the government blinked in a mid-ocean standoff with Indonesia.

The backdown will be seen as a loss of face for the Coalition, which vowed before the election that Australian authorities would not act as a taxi service for refugees. It may also encourage other people-smuggling syndicates to try their hand.

Although Indonesia had agreed to Australia's request to take back asylum seekers on two recent occasions, critics of the government's turn-back policy had predicted Jakarta would eventually refuse to accept boats turned back by the Australian navy. That day came on Friday, when Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa outlined a harder-line doctrine and refused to take the asylum seekers unless there was a threat to life.

As Labor said the turn-back policy was ''in tatters'' and accused the Abbott government of inept diplomacy, Immigration Minister Scott Morrison tried to play down the stand-off in a statement issued on Saturday. He said that overnight on Friday the Indonesians has advised Australian officials that they were ''reviewing'' the request to take the boat back.

He said he welcomed Indonesia's ''review'', but ''in the best interests of the safety of the passengers and crew'' he had ordered the asylum seekers to be taken to Christmas Island for ''rapid onward transfer to Manus Island or Nauru''.

However, Agus Barnas, a spokesman for Indonesia's co-ordinating minister, Djoko Suyanto, said on Saturday: ''As far as I'm concerned, there is no review of the government of Indonesia's position/standpoint on the refugees who wish to go to Australia.''



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbotts-boat-policy-fails-test-20131109-2x8w5.html#ixzz2kAZSwYWQ

[Chuck17]

Scott Morrison shown to the lying prick that he is.

I really don't know how voters were sucked in by this lot.

Don't think one single voter was sucked in at all, the real issue was that Labor could not provide a credible alternative and were a laughing stock with their back stabbing leadership shuffling.

[mightytiges]

Be afraid and stop the b ... ummm ..... future wannabee naturalised Aussie cricketer 


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